The Official June 2016 Study Group Forum

[ayylmao]

Drilled the games I missed yesterday as well as LG from 48.

I'm getting excited for this test - I feel like we are all going to do great.

Just keep making progress every day.

It's great when the Stockholm Syndrome takes effect. Really gives you that extra boost of motivation.

[ayylmao]

Checking in. Started the most recent Manhattan course last week. Took the June 2007 PT on Saturday and scored a 162. Hoping to climb my way up to the 170s by test day in June. If not, I'll be in the September re-take board.

Good luck all!

That's a high diagnostic score. Don't be afraid to put off your first take till September if you need to in order to maximize your score. You seem to be in a good starting position.

Thanks. That's the plan depending on where I'm scoring on May 17. That was the first full test I've taken so my plan was to keep taking a practice test a week on top of the class. I'll evaluate my progress once the deadline arrives. The reading comprehension section was my worst section. Any tips on how to improve? Mostly, I just felt extremely fatigued by the final section (RC) and found it difficult to focus.

Focusing is a lot of the battle on RC, imo. Because your stamina will naturally improve as you take more practice tests, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Take some practice RC sections from older tests (pre-PT 36) to see how you do when your mind is fresh.

[lawschoolbound17]

Checking in. Started the most recent Manhattan course last week. Took the June 2007 PT on Saturday and scored a 162. Hoping to climb my way up to the 170s by test day in June. If not, I'll be in the September re-take board.

Good luck all!

That's a high diagnostic score. Don't be afraid to put off your first take till September if you need to in order to maximize your score. You seem to be in a good starting position.

Thanks. That's the plan depending on where I'm scoring on May 17. That was the first full test I've taken so my plan was to keep taking a practice test a week on top of the class. I'll evaluate my progress once the deadline arrives. The reading comprehension section was my worst section. Any tips on how to improve? Mostly, I just felt extremely fatigued by the final section (RC) and found it difficult to focus.

Focusing is a lot of the battle on RC, imo. Because your stamina will naturally improve as you take more practice tests, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Take some practice RC sections from older tests (pre-PT 36) to see how you do when your mind is fresh.

That makes sense. I'll keep that in mind and give it a shot. Luckily the MLSAT course gives you a ton of tests to burn. Are you using any specific class/method or just self-study?

[StopLawying]

Do you guys think we'll get a curve-ball game in June? Really worried that one game can just screw everything up, especially with the tight June curve.
How is everyone approaching/learning these types of games?

[lawschoolbound17]

Do you guys think we'll get a curve-ball game in June? Really worried that one game can just screw everything up, especially with the tight June curve.
How is everyone approaching/learning these types of games?

Honestly, I haven't put too much thought into it. Is the June LSAT known for curve-ball games? If so, allocate additional time to previous "curve-ball" games. If not, don't allocate too much time to them as that would just take away from the main game types that you know will come up on test day.

My plan is to just practice, practice and practice some more on every available game type. I'm planning on keeping track of the game types that trip me up and allocating additional time studying them.

[ayylmao]

Checking in. Started the most recent Manhattan course last week. Took the June 2007 PT on Saturday and scored a 162. Hoping to climb my way up to the 170s by test day in June. If not, I'll be in the September re-take board.

Good luck all!

That's a high diagnostic score. Don't be afraid to put off your first take till September if you need to in order to maximize your score. You seem to be in a good starting position.

Thanks. That's the plan depending on where I'm scoring on May 17. That was the first full test I've taken so my plan was to keep taking a practice test a week on top of the class. I'll evaluate my progress once the deadline arrives. The reading comprehension section was my worst section. Any tips on how to improve? Mostly, I just felt extremely fatigued by the final section (RC) and found it difficult to focus.

Focusing is a lot of the battle on RC, imo. Because your stamina will naturally improve as you take more practice tests, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Take some practice RC sections from older tests (pre-PT 36) to see how you do when your mind is fresh.

That makes sense. I'll keep that in mind and give it a shot. Luckily the MLSAT course gives you a ton of tests to burn. Are you using any specific class/method or just self-study?

Mostly self-study, although I use 7sage's method for logic games, and bought their Ultimate package to have access to their curriculum and preptest explanations. I know Manhattan is a good company, but I don't know much about their methods so I'll just say that you should never practice with anything other than real LSATs. I bet they license old tests, but just worth mentioning.

[ayylmao]

Do you guys think we'll get a curve-ball game in June? Really worried that one game can just screw everything up, especially with the tight June curve.
How is everyone approaching/learning these types of games?

Is there really such a thing as a tight June curve phenomenon? This sounds like the idea that February is harder because it's nondisclosed, which is malarkey. Why would this be so?

[lawschoolbound17]

Checking in. Started the most recent Manhattan course last week. Took the June 2007 PT on Saturday and scored a 162. Hoping to climb my way up to the 170s by test day in June. If not, I'll be in the September re-take board.

Good luck all!

That's a high diagnostic score. Don't be afraid to put off your first take till September if you need to in order to maximize your score. You seem to be in a good starting position.

Thanks. That's the plan depending on where I'm scoring on May 17. That was the first full test I've taken so my plan was to keep taking a practice test a week on top of the class. I'll evaluate my progress once the deadline arrives. The reading comprehension section was my worst section. Any tips on how to improve? Mostly, I just felt extremely fatigued by the final section (RC) and found it difficult to focus.

Focusing is a lot of the battle on RC, imo. Because your stamina will naturally improve as you take more practice tests, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Take some practice RC sections from older tests (pre-PT 36) to see how you do when your mind is fresh.

That makes sense. I'll keep that in mind and give it a shot. Luckily the MLSAT course gives you a ton of tests to burn. Are you using any specific class/method or just self-study?

Mostly self-study, although I use 7sage's method for logic games, and bought their Ultimate package to have access to their curriculum and preptest explanations. I know Manhattan is a good company, but I don't know much about their methods so I'll just say that you should never practice with anything other than real LSATs. I bet they license old tests, but just worth mentioning.

That's correct they're all actual LSAT questions. Good luck with your prep. I tried self study with the LSAT Trainer for a little while but I needed more structure so I switched to a class.

[R. Jeeves]

I wouldn't worry too much about the possibilty of a "harder" test. LSAT scores consistently match up to pretty much the same percentiles from year to year. It's basically LSAC's entire job to ensure this.

[ayylmao]

I wouldn't worry too much about the possibilty of a "harder" test. LSAT scores consistently match up to pretty much the same percentiles from year to year. It's basically LSAC's entire job to ensure this.

Yup!

[chicharon]

Sup

[proteinshake]

this study group seems so much more on-topic than the December group was.

[Hennessy]

Gotten to the point where I'm going -2 or less on LG! And it's generally only -1 because of a silly mistake. I fully understand every game I come across, how to diagram it, and how to solve it.

And going -2 to -4 on all other sections. Repeatedly PTing at 167-169 (last 6 tests.) With two months left, I want to start consistently cracking 170.

Has anyone been studying LR types, vs. just attempting to answer the questions? Has it helped you?

[Mikey]

Gotten to the point where I'm going -2 or less on LG! And it's generally only -1 because of a silly mistake. I fully understand every game I come across, how to diagram it, and how to solve it.

And going -2 to -4 on all other sections. Repeatedly PTing at 167-169 (last 6 tests.) With two months left, I want to start consistently cracking 170.

Has anyone been studying LR types, vs. just attempting to answer the questions? Has it helped you?

Nice! I've gotten to that point with LG as well, except when a nasty pattern game shows up considering I haven't spent much time on them yet. Personally I focused on LR by types before diving into mixing them up. I still do 1 question type if I need to though. Doing it by type I feel is helpful to see patterns, but there's still 2 question types I struggle with but hopefully I progress with them soon.

[appind]

is everyone in the thread studying full-time, or have other work or classes?

how are those with work finding time to PT?

[Hennessy]

is everyone in the thread studying full-time, or have other work or classes?

how are those with work finding time to PT?

I work full time. I drill and reread Manhattan LSAT books on the train to work and home in the morning and afternoon. I do two practice tests per week after work, and one on the weekend. The rest of the weekend I drill in the morning or afternoon.

aka if each PT takes 2.5-3 hrs., I'm putting in about 15-20 hours a week.

It's not hard to do - some people work full time and then spend 4 hrs. a night on Facebook; that's 20hrs. a week right there not including Facebook. Just swap some of your you-time for LSAT-time.

[lawschoolbound17]

is everyone in the thread studying full-time, or have other work or classes?

how are those with work finding time to PT?

I agree with the above. I work full time, usually about 40-50 hrs depending on the time of the year. I realized the ways in which I waste time and just removed them and replaced that time with the LSAT. There is no reason to spend hours on Facebook, Twitter, or other forms of social media when there is such an important test coming up.

I usually take about an hr break between work and studying, then study for 2-3 hours before going to the gym. I do this 4 nights during the week and take 1 night off. On the weekends, i get up and study for a few hours on Saturday morning and then again on Sunday morning. I try to limit my studying on Saturday and Sunday to 3-5 hours depending on what section I am studying or whether or not I am taking a full practice exam that day.

It's definitely more difficult and requires strong time management but you can do it. Just try to cut out some of the things that you don't need and replace them with beneficial LSAT practice.

[somewhatferal]

is everyone in the thread studying full-time, or have other work or classes?

how are those with work finding time to PT?

I take 2-3 PT's a week, including one on the weekend, and give myself about an hour afterwards to review missed questions. Doesn't take much time in total. Luckily, I work from home so I can PT whenever I want.

Today's results:

PT 61, 175 (-2 LR, -2 LG, -2 RC).

This is my fourth straight 175. I'm not sure what else to do to improve. Usually, I miss somewhere between 1 and 3 problems based on a stupid mistake. Today, I disregarded the word "EXCEPT" (in all caps) in a LR problem. I guess "focus better" is the answer.

[Hennessy]

is everyone in the thread studying full-time, or have other work or classes?

how are those with work finding time to PT?

I take 2-3 PT's a week, including one on the weekend, and give myself about an hour afterwards to review missed questions. Doesn't take much time in total. Luckily, I work from home so I can PT whenever I want.

Today's results:

PT 61, 175 (-2 LR, -2 LG, -2 RC).

This is my fourth straight 175. I'm not sure what else to do to improve. Usually, I miss somewhere between 1 and 3 problems based on a stupid mistake. Today, I disregarded the word "EXCEPT" (in all caps) in a LR problem. I guess "focus better" is the answer.

I think you've hit a rung where I (if I was in your circumstance) wouldn't try to improve any more, out of fear that new techniques might disrupt my current ones. I would just try to maintain your approach to the test and your understanding of the questions. They say you should expect a three-point decrease on the actual test, but if you can take 8 or 9 PTs in a row and receive a 175, I'd expect (and be happy with) a 175 on the exam.

[ayylmao]

Pound, pound, pound, every day. We're training for the motherfucking Super Bowl, and we're gonna dominate like it's Seahawks v. Broncos 2014.

[longpig]

is everyone in the thread studying full-time, or have other work or classes?

how are those with work finding time to PT?

I also work 45-50 hours a week. I've only been doing 1 PT/week so far, and besides that I review and drill. My last 3 scores were 172, 174 and 178.

I guess at this rate I could/should start doing 2 PT's per week but honestly I am wary of doing it right after work cause I'm usually really tired

[Mikey]

is everyone in the thread studying full-time, or have other work or classes?

how are those with work finding time to PT?

I'm still a full time student, so I have a bit more time for LSAT prep than someone working full time, I would assume. Usually if I have a paper to do or an exam to study for, I will do minimal LSAT prep during that time, but not completely avoid it. But when I don't have any papers or exams for say, the next 2 weeks, I usually just focus on LSAT material.

[appind]

i've mostly been doing the review and drilling early in the morning before leaving for work. i find that doing lsat study later in the evening isn't most beneficial. i leave PT for weekends.

do everyone here work in some nonprofit field, or have work in some other industries?

[appind]

I take 2-3 PT's a week, including one on the weekend, and give myself about an hour afterwards to review missed questions. Doesn't take much time in total. Luckily, I work from home so I can PT whenever I want.

Today's results:

PT 61, 175 (-2 LR, -2 LG, -2 RC).

nice score. how did you get to this level in rc/lr?

[YupSports]

is everyone in the thread studying full-time, or have other work or classes?

how are those with work finding time to PT?

Also working full time.

Put in about 2 hours a day Monday - Thursday and 4 on Friday.

The weekend is all over the map depending on what I need to get done.

I would say it averages out to 20 hours a week; I feel like hours get more valuable the more you do as you have a better base to build on.