Violation of LSAT test center regulations Forum

sakaichen · Post by **sakaichen** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:58 am

I am involved in a serious event. I took the LSAT this Saturday. Since I did not read the instructions carefully before the test, I did not fully understand the details of the policy. During the test, when the time for section 1 was over, I left 11 questions unanswered. When the section 2 was beginning, I completed the left 11 questions in random. I did not return pages on test booklet.
The proctor found that and told me that this conduct would be viewed as cheating. I thought of his words as a warning. I did not intend to cheat to improve my grade, so I wanted to correct my violation. Then I erased the 11 darkened bubbles and restored the 11 questions to unanswered state. During the break, the proctor gave me a yellow copy of violation notice and dismissed me from the test center. They will report my violation as misconduct to LSAC. I think this penalty is too heavy. I do not think it is a malicious violation because I was not aware that working on answer sheet crossing sections without returning pages on test booklet was still a violation.
I want to know are there any remedies on this event and will the report affect my application to law schools.
Thanks for your help and responses.

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sakaichen · Post by **sakaichen** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:13 am

theugg wrote:Also, how did you not intend to cheat to improve your grade? What else were you doing?

Because I am a foreigner. In my country, the scope of "cheating" on test is different from that in USA.

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ihenry · Post by **ihenry** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:48 am

sakaichen wrote: Because I am a foreigner. In my country, the scope of "cheating" on test is different from that in USA.

No. It has nothing to do with your country (or "our" country I presume, based on your user name). At best, it is YOUR scope of "cheating" that is exceptional.

Explain to them sincerely that you did not understand the regulations and promise that you will definitely not do it again. Be as detailed and convincing as possible, because you will need this as addendum to be sent to every school.

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:54 am

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pancakes3 · Post by **pancakes3** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:34 am

dishonor

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galeatus · Post by **galeatus** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:35 am

It's not cheating they're punishing you for, it's breach of test regulations, which is quite clearly worded and which you have clearly breached.

I'd suggest you start looking at something other than a legal future. Even if you get to take the LSATs again, law schools and law firms will not view your misconduct favourbly at all.

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:43 am

galeatus wrote:It's not cheating they're punishing you for, it's breach of test regulations, which is quite clearly worded and which you have clearly breached.

I'd suggest you start looking at something other than a legal future. Even if you get to take the LSATs again, law schools and law firms will not view your misconduct favourbly at all.

What's your authority for stating the above? I'm a little skeptical of your certainty because I don't know how law firms would ever learn of an incident like this.

OP: If you're serious about a career in the law, you should consider contacting an attorney—or at least a law school admissions consultant—who specializes in this kind of thing. You're unlikely to find productive advice here.

galeatus · Post by **galeatus** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:22 am

rpupkin wrote:
galeatus wrote:It's not cheating they're punishing you for, it's breach of test regulations, which is quite clearly worded and which you have clearly breached.

I'd suggest you start looking at something other than a legal future. Even if you get to take the LSATs again, law schools and law firms will not view your misconduct favourbly at all.
What's your authority for stating the above? I'm a little skeptical of your certainty because I don't know how law firms would ever learn of an incident like this.

Sorry, I was thinking of the State Bar's character and fitness standards when I somehow said law firms. I'm not sure if law firm background checks will reveal OP's misconduct to the law firms, but he is almost certainly required to disclose it to the Bar if he is to be considered for admission to the Bar.

But yes finding an attorney will be more helpful.

Harry_Pluxen · Post by **Harry_Pluxen** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:37 am

I've heard of people getting kicked out of the exam for FAR LESS than what I am hearing in this thread.

seashell.economy · Post by **seashell.economy** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:40 am

zty · Post by **zty** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:42 am

ihenry wrote:
sakaichen wrote: Because I am a foreigner. In my country, the scope of "cheating" on test is different from that in USA.
No. It has nothing to do with your country (or "our" country I presume, based on your user name). At best, it is YOUR scope of "cheating" that is exceptional.

Explain to them sincerely that you did not understand the regulations and promise that you will definitely not do it again. Be as detailed and convincing as possible, because you will need this as addendum to be sent to every school.

Agree. It has nothing to do with OUR country's definition of "cheating". I've no idea whether explanation helps. Actually it has nothing to do with your intention.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:47 am

seashell.economy wrote:For what it's worth, standards of cheating *are* culturally dependent and thus vary from country to country. Anyone who has worked at a school that has international students knows this.

Proctor: "You may not work on any other section."
Student: *works on another section*

No amount of multicultural relativism is going to save this kid. He cheated. Maybe he thought he would get away with it because that's how it works in his country, but there's no doubt that what he did was against the rules, and I'm sure he knew that it was against the rules. He took the risk of cheating and it didn't work. Now he has to accept the penalty. End of story.

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