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Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:41 am

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chalky · Post by **chalky** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:30 am

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Clearly · Post by **Clearly** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:54 pm

You might want to get a score before giving advice...

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:16 pm

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nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:39 pm

Are you Pting in the 170's?

lymenheimer · Post by **lymenheimer** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:42 pm

I hope this is a recent development because less than a month ago you were here:

Phoenix97 wrote: a couple of days ago, my scores began plummeting. Not only that, but I feel unable to grasp the concepts pertaining to the mistakes I have started making.

Also, this is credited:

Clearly wrote:You might want to get a score before giving advice...

Especially since you seem to be on a roller coaster ride with your studying. And, not to strawman, but your instability and lack of confidence in yourself makes me seem less likely to want to take your suggestions to heart (however effective they may be). Finally, "random ideas"...They're not really random, which is why I'm not attacking your advice. These suggestions are all over this thread (I have contributed them to a few posts, myself). Not that people won't appreciate what you're doing here, but the delivery is mistaken. Post it in the October Takers thread or something rather than in its own post. Those are the people who may benefit from this, and if you had been there, you would likely have seen these things multiple times over. HTH.

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:30 pm

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lymenheimer · Post by **lymenheimer** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:56 pm

Phoenix97 wrote: I've improved by quite a bit within the last month or so

That's great! congratulations! I'm glad that you were able to get over some of the struggles you were previously having (genuinely).

Phoenix97 wrote:I'm just sharing a couple of tips that have helped me gain some points...not claiming this will work for everyone, or that it will get people into the 99th percentile. I haven't been on the October thread at all, and I don't spend an excessive amount of time pouring over the topics on this forum . If this info is redundant, the mods are free to delete this post or remove it. Not sure why you or anyone else would behave as though I just shoved a large stick up your behind...if you don't find this post helpful or convincing, that's perfectly fine. But on the off chance someone is just glancing through this forum for the first or second time and they find this thread helpful, why not throw it out there?

This is like walking into a room where people are talking to each other in groups, and standing there trying to talk to everyone, repeating what many of them are already saying. Like I said, I wasn't attacking your advice, since it is fairly common wisdom to those who are on these forums regularly. Nor was I saying that it was a bad post. I was encouraging you to take it to a more helpful place, or rather, look and listen before adding to the noise.

But do what you want, I'm not the police. idk why you're so defensive on an online forum.

Clearly · Post by **Clearly** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:58 pm

I'm actually not gonna pull punches quite so much. Some of your advice is common knowledge, and the rest is just awful advice. Don't come here and give advice to people before you've even gotten good yourself, do you see how that could be harmful? That said, keep working on your score and I'm happy you're heading in the right direction!

swampman · Post by **swampman** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:03 pm

This is the exact opposite of what you should do. Why would you try to reduce your stress while PTing? Do you think you won't be anxious and under stress during the real thing?

Judgeasaurus_Rex · Post by **Judgeasaurus_Rex** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:06 pm

Phoenix97 wrote:I haven't take the test yet, but these are things that have helped me overcome some test anxiety/stress and increase my PT scores.

Try to avoid engaging in activities or eating/drinking anything that will heighten your anxiety levels. I've noticed I do significantly worse on the LR and RC section if I drink too much coffee, for example. Avoid situation, and even people, that may cause you to feel anxious. Also, handle whatever typical personal needs that must be dealt with in order for you to feel more relaxed and clear headed.
You may not always realize it, but how you feel has a significant impact on your performance. If you have to reread a prompt three times because you mind is on something else, and then you start to feel even worse because you can't focus, that can really hurt your score.

This second one is going to sound VERY odd, but sometimes I review my past problems sets while simultaneously doing an activity that I enjoy, such as watching a funny show. It has helped me feel more relaxed and comfortable about the test. I've had plenty of of "ah-ha" moments while doing this because I'm not overthinking the problems.

Well, I hope this helps someone. Happy studying.

I like the advice about not drinking too much coffee or eating too close to a PT, it has definitely thrown me off of my game a few times!

Do not listen to the other users telling you that you shouldn't be giving advice.

Redamon1 · Post by **Redamon1** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:21 pm

No certification is required to share study tips that have worked for you. Ignore the naysayers.

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:49 pm

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Clearly · Post by **Clearly** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:06 am

To clarify, the only thing I think is awful is doing LR backwards, that's giving up easy points for hard points and isn't a good strategy. The rest is all good and I like it! I'd just hate to see people take poor strategic advice to heart and complicate their prep.

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lymenheimer · Post by **lymenheimer** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:13 am

If your RC skills are as poor as you make them seem ITT, and YOUR assumption skills as well, you may need more time studying. Also, if you think people here are pricks, nobody is forcing you to stay here. If you don't even look through the threads, then you're getting no benefit, and if you did look through the threads then you would know that you are sharing no benefit. Like I said, I don't care what you do, but if you're trying to be productive and helpful, it's not coming across as such when you complain when people give you constructive feedback. But feel free to call your professors pricks when they disagree with what you write. See how well that works for you.

Phoenix97 · Post by **Phoenix97** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:54 am

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lymenheimer · Post by **lymenheimer** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:11 pm

Phoenix97 wrote: So...just because I haven't come across any threads with the particular advice I shared above, that means I have not/do not look through any threads at all?

Phoenix97 wrote:I haven't been on the October thread at all, and I don't spend an excessive amount of time pouring over the topics on this forum.

Phoenix97 wrote: Constructive feedback is one thing...but responding just to say "other people already have already said all this, BUT you can't because you haven't taken the test and were having a hard time a few weeks ago" is not constructive. It's petty and unnecessary.

I never said this so I don't know why it's in quotes. I actually never even said that you can't say it. Nor did I relate anything back to your struggles. I simply asked if you were still struggling. And I congratulated you on getting over that.

Phoenix97 wrote: If YOU'RE trying to be productive and helpful, why don't you go answer some threads with one or no responses written by people who are actively seeking advice?

I do. I select the ones that I think I can productively add to. And when the OP decides he doesn't want to listen to feedback, then I decide to push harder because I'm a lot more hardheaded and I hate it when people twist the words/ideas and don't actually read what is being said. And it seems, at this point in time, that you need more help than anyone on this thread because you're still making assumptions further than what is being stated and your RC is sucking (just based on your comments ITT).

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:15 pm

I hear segz halps.