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Post by hopeboaltberkeley » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:59 pm

What aspect of Powerscore is not working for you. I have the most difficulty with LG's so I've read the Powerscore guide, the Manhattan guide, and I am almost finished with the Blueprint one now. I've also dabbled in Kaplan's prep, but that was quite a while ago. Depending on what you're finding most annoying about Powerscore, I can tell you how either alternative differs.

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7sage videos (which are free) could be good for you too. They have many advocates on these forums. I've used them occasionally (though I have a preference for learning through reading rather than by watching videos).

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Post by hopeboaltberkeley » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:23 pm

So both the Manhattan and Blueprint guides are a lot less dry than PowerScore. In my opinion, Blueprint over does it and tries a bit too hard to be funny and attuned to pop-culture, whereas Manhattan is more easygoing about its sarcasm/humor.

However, the issue with with Manhattan is that a couple of its methods for grouping games are markedly different from both PowerScore's and Blueprint's. In my opinion, those methods are less intuitive than the approaches offered by the other two companies. (PowerScore has its downsides too with relative ordering games. I thought BluePrint effectively synthesized the best of PowerScore and Manhattan with regards to diagramming methods). That being said, Manhattan does have useful discussions on "front end" vs "back end" games.

A potential issue with BP and Manhattan is that they are about 150 pages longer than PowerScore. You realize reading them that some of the dryness of PowerScore was the company's attempt at being concise. But yeah, if you're looking for something less dry then the other books certainly are less dry.
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Re: Need used Blueprint LG book please!

Post by hopeboaltberkeley » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:24 pm

Have you tried craigslist?

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Post by nlee10 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:32 pm

hopeboaltberkeley wrote:So both the Manhattan and Blueprint guides are a lot less dry than PowerScore. In my opinion, Blueprint over does it and tries a bit too hard to be funny and attuned to pop-culture, whereas Manhattan is more easygoing about its sarcasm/humor.

However, the issue with with Manhattan is that a couple of its methods for grouping games are markedly different from both PowerScore's and Blueprint's. In my opinion, those methods are less intuitive than the approaches offered by the other two companies. (PowerScore has its downsides too with relative ordering games. I thought BluePrint effectively synthesized the best of PowerScore and Manhattan with regards to diagramming methods). That being said, Manhattan does have useful discussions on "front end" vs "back end" games.

A potential issue with BP and Manhattan is that they are about 150 pages longer than PowerScore. You realize reading them that some of the dryness of PowerScore was the company's attempt at being concise. But yeah, if you're looking for something less dry then the other books certainly are less dry.
I have the BP LG book and it is significantly shorter than the PS Bible...

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nlee10 wrote:
hopeboaltberkeley wrote:So both the Manhattan and Blueprint guides are a lot less dry than PowerScore. In my opinion, Blueprint over does it and tries a bit too hard to be funny and attuned to pop-culture, whereas Manhattan is more easygoing about its sarcasm/humor.

However, the issue with with Manhattan is that a couple of its methods for grouping games are markedly different from both PowerScore's and Blueprint's. In my opinion, those methods are less intuitive than the approaches offered by the other two companies. (PowerScore has its downsides too with relative ordering games. I thought BluePrint effectively synthesized the best of PowerScore and Manhattan with regards to diagramming methods). That being said, Manhattan does have useful discussions on "front end" vs "back end" games.

A potential issue with BP and Manhattan is that they are about 150 pages longer than PowerScore. You realize reading them that some of the dryness of PowerScore was the company's attempt at being concise. But yeah, if you're looking for something less dry then the other books certainly are less dry.
I have the BP LG book and it is significantly shorter than the PS Bible...
Do you recommend it? Have you tried Manhattan?

I am having a lot of trouble with the LG Powerscore Bible...
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Re: Need used Blueprint LG book please!

Post by nlee10 » Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:40 pm

dmarieb wrote: Do you recommend it? Have you tried Manhattan?
I am having a lot of trouble with the LG Powerscore Bible...
I have not tried LG from Manhattan but I presume they are good. I used Manhattan LR and found it much better than the PS LR Bible.

That being said, I had a hard time with the LG Bible as well so I turned to Blueprint because I am also taking their class. It's a lot easier to comprehend and if you can stand their sarcasm and jokes, it's an easy read.

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Re: Need used Blueprint LG book please!

Post by hopeboaltberkeley » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:10 pm

nlee10 wrote: I have the BP LG book and it is significantly shorter than the PS Bible...
What edition do you have? My "The Blueprint for Logic Games" is from 2013 -- which I think is their latest -- and it is 553 pages long (not including the appendix). It could be that you have a different edition, or that they supply different material for people taking the class?

I think my PowerScore is from 2010 (not 100% sure though as I don't have it on me at the moment), and it's only about 380 pages long.

Manhattan is somewhere around, but over, 500 pages as well.

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Re: Need used Blueprint LG book please!

Post by hopeboaltberkeley » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:15 pm

dmarieb wrote:
hopeboaltberkeley wrote:Have you tried craigslist?
I have tried everywhere. It's like Blueprint buys every used copy they see so that you have to buy a new $50.00 copy!

So would you recommend Manhattan or Blueprint? I'm just going to buy one. Whatever.
If you had to pick one, I'd say Blueprint. I prefer many aspects of Manhattan's book, but for me, some of their grouping games methods are the deal-breaker.

Edit: Also I can't believe I forgot this, but there was a promotion on this site three weeks ago where Blueprint was willing to ship a free copy of the LG book if you were willing to review it for them. I don't know if it's ongoing, but worth looking into.

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