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Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by A.Taarabt7 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:24 pm

So I understand after watching 7sage and reading other explanations that M can be the only worker that transfers to J.

But how do we obtain the inference that M can only transfer work to J?? The way I was interpreting the inference was that if you have J on tuesday or wednesday or thursday, then M has to go before it. But I never comprehended that M can only transfer to J.

Why can't M transfer to L or K? I don't see anything ruling that out?

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Re: Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by dontdoitkid » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:40 pm

You have to delve into the second level of inception to get the answer. Try diagramming out the game with an M - L or M - K transfer at the beginning of the second day. If you do that, you'll see that it creates an game rule violation somewhere else.

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Re: Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by RunnerRunner » Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:56 pm

The rules state that J cannot receive work from L or M. J also cannot receive work from itself, since each day the workers give their project to someone else. This means that M is the only one that can give to J, and since J has to work on something every day, and cannot receive work from anyone but M, M has to give to J every day.

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Re: Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by ilikebaseball » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:07 pm

Each worker has to work every day. So if K and L do not go to J (as stated in the rules) and it says that the workers must pass to a DIFFERENT employee (implying J cant go to J) then M is the only other employee that can go to J.

K> L or M
J > L or K
L > K or M

M > ???

well, looking above, the only thing we have missing is something HAS to go to J. Therefore, it's M.

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Re: Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by A.Taarabt7 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:25 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:Each worker has to work every day. So if K and L do not go to J (as stated in the rules) and it says that the workers must pass to a DIFFERENT employee (implying J cant go to J) then M is the only other employee that can go to J.

K> L or M
J > L or K
L > K or M

M > ???

well, looking above, the only thing we have missing is something HAS to go to J. Therefore, it's M.

Thanks I was about to ask that question

So, I never saw it stated explicitly but we have to assume that each worker has to work? we can't have a 4 day week for one raw product where K is repeated twice? or L?

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Re: Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by Christine (MLSAT) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:26 pm

Well, if M *doesn't* pass to J, where the heck would J get his work from for the day? :p

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Re: Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by Christine (MLSAT) » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:29 pm

A.Taarabt7 wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:Each worker has to work every day. So if K and L do not go to J (as stated in the rules) and it says that the workers must pass to a DIFFERENT employee (implying J cant go to J) then M is the only other employee that can go to J.

K> L or M
J > L or K
L > K or M

M > ???

well, looking above, the only thing we have missing is something HAS to go to J. Therefore, it's M.

Thanks I was about to ask that question

So, I never saw it stated explicitly but we have to assume that each worker has to work? we can't have a 4 day week for one raw product where K is repeated twice? or L?
Every worker has to work every day. That's stated explicitly.

But that does not mean that each worker must work on a particular object at some point. You could absolutely have one workpiece volley between just L and K (LKLK or KLKL).

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Re: Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by The Avatar » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:06 pm

Dude I am hoping to God we don't see another miscellaneous game on PT 73.

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Re: Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by ilikebaseball » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:08 pm

It doesn't really say it explicitly, but it can be inferred from the stimulus when it says "each workpiece is transferred from the employee who worked on it the previous day to ANOTHER one of the employees"

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Re: Last minute question about PT 72 4th Logic game

Post by A.Taarabt7 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:10 pm

Thanks Christine

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