taking september instead of december for EA/ED boost? Forum

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:45 am

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Picosaurus · Post by **Picosaurus** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:44 pm

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berkeleynick · Post by **berkeleynick** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:36 pm

You can check out whether or not there's a significant ED boost in the article below which breaks it down by school:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/early- ... bump-real/

santoki · Post by **santoki** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:32 pm

berkeleynick wrote:You can check out whether or not there's a significant ED boost in the article below which breaks it down by school:

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/early- ... bump-real/

so im a splitter looking to get into georgetown...

i was about to change my test to december when i saw the numbers for splitters ED-ing to gulc. what in god's name??

uncertainty returns.

JamMasterJ · Post by **JamMasterJ** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:15 pm

santoki wrote:hey all, do you guys think it is worth it to take the september exam instead of the december one in order to ensure that i'll get my apps in for early action or early decision? i know it depends on my readiness, but how much weight do you think an ED application has over a normal application? thanks, friends

If you think your score would be at least 1 point higher in December it's not worth taking early

JamMasterJ · Post by **JamMasterJ** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:16 pm

Isn't gtown one of those schools that has multiple ED timelines?

santoki · Post by **santoki** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:05 pm

JamMasterJ wrote:Isn't gtown one of those schools that has multiple ED timelines?

im checking out their website that isnt updated for next cycle yet, but it seems that early decision apps should be in by March 1. could that be right??

http://www.law.georgetown.edu/admission ... meline.cfm

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:17 pm

I dont really understand the point of ED'ing to be honest. I mean, when you get down to it, its incredibly disadvantageous to the applier

santoki · Post by **santoki** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:48 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:I dont really understand the point of ED'ing to be honest. I mean, when you get down to it, its incredibly disadvantageous to the applier

if it can mean an advantage in getting in to a school you may not otherwise be able to get into, albeit paying full sticker, it could make a difference.

but it is somewhat risky as well, i guess.

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:49 pm

santoki wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:I dont really understand the point of ED'ing to be honest. I mean, when you get down to it, its incredibly disadvantageous to the applier
if it can mean an advantage in getting in to a school you may not otherwise be able to get into, albeit paying full sticker, it could make a difference.

but it is somewhat risky as well, i guess.

most people advice against paying sticker anyway, so if the only way you can get in is if you have to pay sticker, then i still dont really see the point

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:51 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:I dont really understand the point of ED'ing to be honest. I mean, when you get down to it, its incredibly disadvantageous to the applier

it's a boost at some schools
for example, a splitter has a better shot w penn ed
for students with gi benefits or some big trust fund, it can make sense
or for students applying to nu and can't pull a better full ride offer with their numbers
maaaaybe ditto for gw if you're doing ip
maaaaaaaaybe ut under some very specific circumstances (not fully debt-financing, want to practice in tx, resident, can't do better with numbers, "can't" retake)
other than that i can't think of good reasons to ed
(and no i don't think pi at a school w good lrap is a good reason to ed)

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:39 pm

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santoki · Post by **santoki** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:02 am

any further input would be appreciated. here's my situation in more detail:

i PT around 168-171 avg. i took june 2013 and got a 165. i sat for a section of june 2014 and cancelled cause of horrible and horrific testing conditions. havent really studied too much until this last monday.

GPA of around a 3.2, so I am really hoping for that 170 to try for georgetown. looking at that spivey chart up there, splitters like me are over 600 times more likely to get into GULC via early decision. 600! and like someone mentioned before, perhaps waiting for december and boosting 1-2 more points would be more of an advantage than applying ED. but then again, those early decision deadlines on GULC's website say that they accept ED until March...which is not very early at all.

im feeling a bit rushed for september, but that might just be my nerves kicking in and putting me in panic mode. what do you all think?

THANKS!

champv17 · Post by **champv17** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:37 pm

Sorry Santoki. Don't want to steal your thread.

Why is ED at Northwestern not a bad idea as some of you are saying?

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:38 pm

champv17 wrote:Sorry Santoki. Don't want to steal your thread.

Why is ED at Northwestern not a bad idea as some of you are saying?

because it comes with a $150,000 scholarship

PepperJack · Post by **PepperJack** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:47 pm

mornincounselor wrote:Is it possible to take in September, apply to some schools then, retake in December and apply to more schools then?

Or if you indicate on your admissions following September that you are retaking will schools wl instead of denying?

I did this. If ur still pending you're gonna get held.. Even at schools with a 150 median if you're retaking a 160 or 170. In fact, you might even get wait listed for retaking, because they figure you're unlikely to choose them if you feel the need to retake what they consider a high score.

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:52 pm

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PepperJack · Post by **PepperJack** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:24 pm

mornincounselor wrote:
PepperJack wrote:
mornincounselor wrote:Is it possible to take in September, apply to some schools then, retake in December and apply to more schools then?

Or if you indicate on your admissions following September that you are retaking will schools wl instead of denying?
I did this. If ur still pending you're gonna get held.. Even at schools with a 150 median if you're retaking a 160 or 170. In fact, you might even get wait listed for retaking, because they figure you're unlikely to choose them if you feel the need to retake what they consider a high score.
So what you are saying is that if you take the test in September, and plan on retaking in December your profile will be "pending" until your December date is released? Even if you submit the complete package to some schools prior to?

I mean what if you wait until the last minute to sign up in December and apply the moment your September score is released? How would LSAC/the schools know at that time of your plans to retake, when I'm sure many students would still be weighing that decision.

If what you are saying is correct, does this then mean that it would give you no concievable benefit to apply early November if you plan on retaking in December? Might you perhaps be in the front of the "pending" pack at least?

I only know what happens when you submit with a test pending. I believe that if you're accepted, and choose to retake it after, you have to notify the school/they get notification but am not sure. I don't know if there would be any benefit. Presumably, you would get reviewed quicker as you would be "complete" once the scores are released. But yes, someone who sends in the September test score on October the fifteenth would generally go before you. If you get phone calls from safety schools gaging your interest, and asking why you retook it, don't say you tried to do the best that you could. This is the wrong answer. Don't ever lie, but if you wanted to teach the test or something, that's a much better answer than saying you wanted to do the best you could. This basically says to them that it's of little value to give you a lot of scholarship money, because you're gonna hold up allocated funds, and ultimately not accept because you'll go to a tier one school. For instance, Miami and several other of those types of schools may ask why you retook, and based on your reply waitlist or deny you as soon as your higher score comes out. Personally, when I got waitlisted the day I knew LSAT scores were going to be released, I thought I must've bombed the retake. Not true. I did better, and was yielded.