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[Louis1127]

Hello TLS,

Thought I would ask for a little advice.

I started studying for the LSAT around the beginning of this year. I went through The PS LGB and The Trainer. I have been drilling all 3 sections with the Cambridge bundles and I have been drilling LG pithypike style (3 copies of every logic game). I have made additional copies and will definitely do more than 3 copies of each game by the time test day comes.

Here is where I am: I am soooooo much better than when I started (didn't even notate rules on my diagnostic ). As of right now, though:

Easy games that should take 5 minutes (like simple linear games) I do perfectly (with a rare misread or maybe even a rare missed inference) but they take me about 9 minutes each. Harder games take me even longer, and sometimes I get stuck and will miss like 3 per game. Sometimes I'll miss a huge game-breaking inference or recognize it late. Sometimes I will not set up templates like J.Y. does in his explanations and it will hurt me.

I honestly feel like I am practicing the right way. I watch 7sage videos for games that I am either slow at or miss a question on (which is like all of them). I don't sit back and watch with a tub of popcorn- I really make an effort to engage, follow along, and try to learn. Then I do the game again the next day. I try to think about the right strategies. I am just not there yet (obviously).

I know what you're thinking: "Dude, you've been studying for two months and you expect to be perfect? You are an entitled piece of crap who deserves to go -15 on test day". No, I do not expect to be perfect by this point in time. What I am asking is, what do you think I should do? Should I look into a course (maybe Velocity, perhaps) or should I keep chugging along with current strategies and current efforts? Perhaps you or one of you friends/students did something else to help them?

I am actually not discouraged, believe it or not. Although if I keep doing what I am doing for 6 months and I am not any better, different story.

Thanks for any responses.

[jk148706]

Drill, watch 7sage videos, drill same games again, drill more games, watch 7sage videos, drill more, watch 7sage videos, drill same games again, drill other games, watch 7sage, drill, 7sage...

[WaltGrace83]

One thing that helped me was to utilize framing techniques. This is something that J.Y. doesn't do nearly as often as I do. Sometimes it will take me 4-5 minutes to just set up a medium-difficulty game but when I do, I rock the questions, completing them in 1-2 minutes or so and get all of them right. Maybe try framing more?

[jk148706]

One thing that helped me was to utilize framing techniques. This is something that J.Y. doesn't do nearly as often as I do. Sometimes it will take me 4-5 minutes to just set up a medium-difficulty game but when I do, I rock the questions, completing them in 1-2 minutes or so and get all of them right. Maybe try framing more?

Huh, I always thought JY really emphasizes up front inferences and creating different "worlds," at least much more so than, say, Velocity.

[WaltGrace83]

One thing that helped me was to utilize framing techniques. This is something that J.Y. doesn't do nearly as often as I do. Sometimes it will take me 4-5 minutes to just set up a medium-difficulty game but when I do, I rock the questions, completing them in 1-2 minutes or so and get all of them right. Maybe try framing more?

Huh, I always thought JY really emphasizes up front inferences and creating different "worlds," at least much more so than, say, Velocity.

Maybe I just haven't seen enough of his videos then, either way, something to consider.

[Louis1127]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I know with practice (real practice- with serious review, focus on weaknesses, etc.) I will get better.

[rebexness]

Another thing I do when watching the 7sage video is work through the setup with JY- but then attempt to answer the questions by myself.

so:

Do game
Do game w/ JY Setup
Do game with JY Setup and JY questions.
(throw game in pile to redo later)

[Otunga]

One thing that helped me was to utilize framing techniques. This is something that J.Y. doesn't do nearly as often as I do. Sometimes it will take me 4-5 minutes to just set up a medium-difficulty game but when I do, I rock the questions, completing them in 1-2 minutes or so and get all of them right. Maybe try framing more?

Huh, I always thought JY really emphasizes up front inferences and creating different "worlds," at least much more so than, say, Velocity.

Are those not the same things? Framing I thought was making a bunch of inferences up front and mapping out the different possibilities/worlds.

[jk148706]

One thing that helped me was to utilize framing techniques. This is something that J.Y. doesn't do nearly as often as I do. Sometimes it will take me 4-5 minutes to just set up a medium-difficulty game but when I do, I rock the questions, completing them in 1-2 minutes or so and get all of them right. Maybe try framing more?

Huh, I always thought JY really emphasizes up front inferences and creating different "worlds," at least much more so than, say, Velocity.

Are those not the same things? Framing I thought was making a bunch of inferences up front and mapping out the different possibilities/worlds.

Yeah they are.

Walt said "JY does (use framing) nearly as often as I do". That led me to point out that JY does emphasize setting up different worlds.