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Quick question regarding the games

Post by hazara » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:54 pm

Hi everyone, ive been a long time lurker but am a first time poster.

I would just like to clarify a misunderstanding i have regarding the games.

If a rule in an "in out game" states that "if S is not in then V is in" can I infer from this statement that if S is in V is not in? I believe that everytime V is in S is not in but i wanted to know if S is in does that mean V is not?

Thanks!

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Re: Quick question regarding the games

Post by Jeffort » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:59 pm

hazara wrote:Hi everyone, ive been a long time lurker but am a first time poster.

I would just like to clarify a misunderstanding i have regarding the games.

If a rule in an "in out game" states that "if S is not in then V is in" can I infer from this statement that if S is in V is not in? I believe that everytime V is in S is not in but i wanted to know if S is in does that mean V is not?

Thanks!
No, that type of rule does not establish that the variables cannot be selected together. It is possible to select both S & V together based on that rule alone. The rule only establishes that you have to have at least one of the two (you cannot put them both in the out group together), and it does allow for you to have both.
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Re: Quick question regarding the games

Post by mellow » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:00 pm

hazara wrote:Hi everyone, ive been a long time lurker but am a first time poster.

I would just like to clarify a misunderstanding i have regarding the games.

If a rule in an "in out game" states that "if S is not in then V is in" can I infer from this statement that if S is in V is not in? I believe that everytime V is in S is not in but i wanted to know if S is in does that mean V is not?

Thanks!
No.

If ~S then V.
If ~V then S is the contrapositive.

This means at least one of them has to be in the group, but both can be in the group as well.

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Re: Quick question regarding the games

Post by SkYlarwHite » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:59 pm

Whenever not is in the sufficient, just know that it always means one or the other or both....

Yay! My first post pertains to my favorite section =)

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Re: Quick question regarding the games

Post by hazara » Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:27 pm

thanks guys/gals that was helpful

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