On omitted questions... Forum
- vuthy

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On omitted questions...
This is really just an "I'm bored and a nerd" issue, but it's been intriguing me for a while. Do you ever wonder how omitted questions affect the curve? Omitted questions probably had some defect, such as two acceptable right answers, or none -- either of which, I imagine, would lead test-takers (especially strong test-takers) to devote a good amount of time to the question, taking time away from other questions. That, in turn, seems like it would drive down overall scores, if only fractionally.
I just wonder how LSAC deals with this issue. My guess is that to a certain extent it ends up being sort of "sorry about your luck -- you really shouldn't spend 3 minutes on any question, no matter what." But I wonder if part of their complex model for determining the curve accounts for sunk time on omitted questions.
I was thinking about this for PT 66. I was LG -1. But what if I had to work through the omitted question? Granted I had plenty of time left on the LG, but you never know.
Anyway, there's that.
I just wonder how LSAC deals with this issue. My guess is that to a certain extent it ends up being sort of "sorry about your luck -- you really shouldn't spend 3 minutes on any question, no matter what." But I wonder if part of their complex model for determining the curve accounts for sunk time on omitted questions.
I was thinking about this for PT 66. I was LG -1. But what if I had to work through the omitted question? Granted I had plenty of time left on the LG, but you never know.
Anyway, there's that.
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RodneyRuxin

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Re: On omitted questions...
Good test takers don't get bogged down on questions and instead come back to them at the end if they have time.
- Rotor

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Re: On omitted questions...
This.RodneyRuxin wrote:Good test takers don't get bogged down on questions and instead come back to them at the end if they have time.
And not-so-good test takers don't notice the problem.
- rinkrat19

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Re: On omitted questions...
The omitted question just vanishes like it never existed, and scores for calculating the "curve" are tallied without it. I imagine that they assume an imperfect question is going to slow everyone down the same amount proportional to their score.
- vuthy

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Re: On omitted questions...
Right -- that's the part that intrigues me. I would imagine that stronger testers are actually slowed down more by defective questions (or at least some types of defective questions) more than weaker testers.rinkrat19 wrote:I imagine that they assume an imperfect question is going to slow everyone down the same amount proportional to their score.
Not questioning the accuracy of the analytics...just curious about them.
- rinkrat19

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Well, following that logic, a REALLY strong test-taker might realize much more quickly that the question was imperfect and be confident that it would be omitted later on, and move on.vuthy wrote:Right -- that's the part that intrigues me. I would imagine that stronger testers are actually slowed down more by defective questions (or at least some types of defective questions) more than weaker testers.rinkrat19 wrote:I imagine that they assume an imperfect question is going to slow everyone down the same amount proportional to their score.
Not questioning the accuracy of the analytics...just curious about them.
- vuthy

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Yeah. Just seems like it would be a real mess trying to sort all that out. They are really good at producing a test that generates fairly consistent scores over time. Can't even imagine all the analytical work that goes into writing, structuring, and curving each test.
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bp shinners

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But that same test-taker will also have studied the test, and in his studies learned that omitted questions are exceptionally rare, causing him to second-guess his assessment. So I clearly can not pick the answer in front of you.rinkrat19 wrote:Well, following that logic, a REALLY strong test-taker might realize much more quickly that the question was imperfect and be confident that it would be omitted later on, and move on.vuthy wrote:Right -- that's the part that intrigues me. I would imagine that stronger testers are actually slowed down more by defective questions (or at least some types of defective questions) more than weaker testers.rinkrat19 wrote:I imagine that they assume an imperfect question is going to slow everyone down the same amount proportional to their score.
Not questioning the accuracy of the analytics...just curious about them.
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sasquatchsam

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Re: On omitted questions...
I agree that omitted questions are likely to hurt strong test takers more than weak test takers. I personally felt that one of the LR questions on PT69 was poorly worded and did not have a clearly correct answer. In total I believe I spent nearly five minutes analyzing it. Fortunately I was able to eliminate all of the clearly incorrect answers. I feel like LR is my strong suite and ended up going -0 so I certainly feel anyones pain when it comes to these questions.