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melmoththewanderer
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Hey! I gotta quick question for you guys pulling consistent -0 on LG under timed conditions. How do you guys go about the drilling to get there? I'm still wavering between -1 and -3, and those extra points are keeping me from 175+.
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itachiuchiha
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Re: -0 LG
I didnt drill. I just did practice tests and for my review I watched 7sage's video on youtube. I am now a logic game GOD
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Scotchandsoda
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Re: -0 LG
http://7sage.com/logic-game-explanations/jk148706 wrote:Just wondering what YouTube video you are referring to...itachiuchiha wrote:I didnt drill. I just did practice tests and for my review I watched 7sage's video on youtube. I am now a logic game GOD
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jk148706
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Re: -0 LG
This is awesome.. ThanksScotchandsoda wrote:http://7sage.com/logic-game-explanations/jk148706 wrote:Just wondering what YouTube video you are referring to...itachiuchiha wrote:I didnt drill. I just did practice tests and for my review I watched 7sage's video on youtube. I am now a logic game GOD
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che3055
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Re: -0 LG
Let me preface this by saying that I have a very unorthodox approach to LG. I never did any guides or specific study program for them (like Powerscore or Manhattan or anything). My diagrams would probably look very weird to other people, and I have never thought of different "types" of LGs. Again, I know this is NOT the norm, but I am still consistently -0 (in 33 PTs, 26 are -0, and within those 33 PTs I've never gone worse than -2. When I sat for the October 2012 LSAT, I went -0 in an LG section that screwed a lot of people up...remember those subzones anyone?)
That said, I was at about the same spot as you...between -1 and -3. Here's a few things that helped me:
1. Understand that LG, unlike the other sections, is entirely, 100% provable. It can be kind of tricky to shift between gears when going from LR/RC to LG, but LG games are like math. The hardest games I have found are ones where the non-math components (the rules/explanation) are oddly phrased and tricky to understand.
2. You should focus on understanding the questions, and then translate each question in to a task that you have to accomplish. Think of a could be true question for a clear example of this. Take the info you're given, and then your task is to formulate a way to make A, B, C, D, or E work. There are ways to do this with other question types too, but it's longer for me to explain, you probably already do some form of it, and in a way it's just a glorified process of elimination.
3. To make the above process faster, you're going to notice overarching themes within games. Certain variables are going to have more constraints placed upon them than others, and certain variables will connect to others in plenty of ways (aka, inferences). Not only do you need to be good at identifying these inferences (you probably already are), but you should work on identifying things the variables that just have a lot going on with them. That way, when you are using the process of elimination, you can seek out answer choices that involve these variables first, since the action tends to revolve around those variables.
4a. The short answer here is just to get faster, and you're going to get faster by drilling. I'm not sure if you've done this already, but make photocopies of each game/LG section and just practice in your free time. It's much more laid back than a full PT and if you can get your time down, you'll be in pretty good shape. Everyone COULD do well in LG given enough time (this is true of all sections to an extent, but more so in LG I believe) since they are so formulaic.
4b. When my times got to the point where they are now (a typical game takes me about 7 minutes, and I ALWAYS have 5+ minutes to review), I started circling questions that I wasn't 100% certain of. I kept chugging through the section, and when I was finished, I went back and reviewed. This is a fairly obvious technique, but it really eliminates the stupid mistakes.
5. Make sure you are reading everything carefully and diligently, and acting appropriately. I found that a large portion of my wrong questions were simply reading a rule like "X is before Y" as "X is after Y" or reading an answer choice as "B is not included" as "B is included."
That said, I was at about the same spot as you...between -1 and -3. Here's a few things that helped me:
1. Understand that LG, unlike the other sections, is entirely, 100% provable. It can be kind of tricky to shift between gears when going from LR/RC to LG, but LG games are like math. The hardest games I have found are ones where the non-math components (the rules/explanation) are oddly phrased and tricky to understand.
2. You should focus on understanding the questions, and then translate each question in to a task that you have to accomplish. Think of a could be true question for a clear example of this. Take the info you're given, and then your task is to formulate a way to make A, B, C, D, or E work. There are ways to do this with other question types too, but it's longer for me to explain, you probably already do some form of it, and in a way it's just a glorified process of elimination.
3. To make the above process faster, you're going to notice overarching themes within games. Certain variables are going to have more constraints placed upon them than others, and certain variables will connect to others in plenty of ways (aka, inferences). Not only do you need to be good at identifying these inferences (you probably already are), but you should work on identifying things the variables that just have a lot going on with them. That way, when you are using the process of elimination, you can seek out answer choices that involve these variables first, since the action tends to revolve around those variables.
4a. The short answer here is just to get faster, and you're going to get faster by drilling. I'm not sure if you've done this already, but make photocopies of each game/LG section and just practice in your free time. It's much more laid back than a full PT and if you can get your time down, you'll be in pretty good shape. Everyone COULD do well in LG given enough time (this is true of all sections to an extent, but more so in LG I believe) since they are so formulaic.
4b. When my times got to the point where they are now (a typical game takes me about 7 minutes, and I ALWAYS have 5+ minutes to review), I started circling questions that I wasn't 100% certain of. I kept chugging through the section, and when I was finished, I went back and reviewed. This is a fairly obvious technique, but it really eliminates the stupid mistakes.
5. Make sure you are reading everything carefully and diligently, and acting appropriately. I found that a large portion of my wrong questions were simply reading a rule like "X is before Y" as "X is after Y" or reading an answer choice as "B is not included" as "B is included."
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RhymesLikeDimes
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Re: -0 LG
1. Do all the games from PTs 1-40 under timed conditions.
2. Repeat each one until you are < 6m and -0 consistently.
3. If any game gives you particular trouble, retake it once a week until it comes easily.
4. Win LG.
2. Repeat each one until you are < 6m and -0 consistently.
3. If any game gives you particular trouble, retake it once a week until it comes easily.
4. Win LG.
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dw3
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Re: -0 LG
190.RhymesLikeDimes wrote:1. Do all the games from PTs 1-40 under timed conditions.
2. Repeat each one until you are < 6m and -0 consistently.
3. If any game gives you particular trouble, retake it once a week until it comes easily.
4. Win LG.
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