LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker? Forum
- TheMostDangerousLG
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LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
I realized that I never pay attention to who is speaking/what the context is (i.e., the little intro before the stimulus; for example, "Editorial:") when I do logical reasoning questions. Of course, I pay attention when it's a point of agreement/disagreement to keep things straight, although usually it's just (e.g.) "Dave" and "Sarah", and who they are doesn't really make a difference.
I thought I unconsciously registered and took them into consideration, but I realized after test day that I really don't (apparently my test included a popular singer as a speaker, and I didn't even notice!). I'm now wondering if I might be hurting himself by neglecting what I assumed to be a usually negligent difference..
Do you pay attention to the speaker? And more important: does it make a difference? Do you change how you evaluate the stimulus or answer choices based on who is speaking/?
I'd really appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts!
I thought I unconsciously registered and took them into consideration, but I realized after test day that I really don't (apparently my test included a popular singer as a speaker, and I didn't even notice!). I'm now wondering if I might be hurting himself by neglecting what I assumed to be a usually negligent difference..
Do you pay attention to the speaker? And more important: does it make a difference? Do you change how you evaluate the stimulus or answer choices based on who is speaking/?
I'd really appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts!
- RhymesLikeDimes
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
Only on questions like Main Point, where the perspective might be relevant.
- TheMostDangerousLG
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
Why do you think it's particularly relevant for these types of questions? Can you give an example, please?RhymesLikeDimes wrote:Only on questions like Main Point, where the perspective might be relevant.
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
do you mean when there are 2 speakers and the question only asks about 1 of them... for example
editorial: this is the way i see it
janet : no your wrong becuase of these reasons
questions : what necessary assumption is needed for janets argument to make sense?
If that is the case im curious to what people do in these sitautions? Do they read the editiorial or just janets?
editorial: this is the way i see it
janet : no your wrong becuase of these reasons
questions : what necessary assumption is needed for janets argument to make sense?
If that is the case im curious to what people do in these sitautions? Do they read the editiorial or just janets?
- TheMostDangerousLG
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
I particularly mean the instances where there's only a single speaker/context given, like "Advertisement:"..homie1515 wrote:do you mean when there are 2 speakers and the question only asks about 1 of them... for example
editorial: this is the way i see it
janet : no your wrong becuase of these reasons
questions : what necessary assumption is needed for janets argument to make sense?
If that is the case im curious to what people do in these sitautions? Do they read the editiorial or just janets?
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- objection_your_honor
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
In that situation, I have never come across a question where it matters. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
TheMostDangerousLG wrote:I particularly mean the instances where there's only a single speaker/context given, like "Advertisement:"..homie1515 wrote:do you mean when there are 2 speakers and the question only asks about 1 of them... for example
editorial: this is the way i see it
janet : no your wrong becuase of these reasons
questions : what necessary assumption is needed for janets argument to make sense?
If that is the case im curious to what people do in these sitautions? Do they read the editiorial or just janets?
O ya, in that case i never look at the speaker consciously...
Any insight on my question?
- TheMostDangerousLG
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
You definitely need to read the full stimulus. Always.homie1515 wrote:TheMostDangerousLG wrote:I particularly mean the instances where there's only a single speaker/context given, like "Advertisement:"..homie1515 wrote:do you mean when there are 2 speakers and the question only asks about 1 of them... for example
editorial: this is the way i see it
janet : no your wrong becuase of these reasons
questions : what necessary assumption is needed for janets argument to make sense?
If that is the case im curious to what people do in these sitautions? Do they read the editiorial or just janets?
O ya, in that case i never look at the speaker consciously...
Any insight on my question?
- SteelPenguin
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
While not a sure thing, seeing things like "advertisement" is often an indicator that there will be some sort of flaw in the reasoning.TheMostDangerousLG wrote:I particularly mean the instances where there's only a single speaker/context given, like "Advertisement:"..homie1515 wrote:do you mean when there are 2 speakers and the question only asks about 1 of them... for example
editorial: this is the way i see it
janet : no your wrong becuase of these reasons
questions : what necessary assumption is needed for janets argument to make sense?
If that is the case im curious to what people do in these sitautions? Do they read the editiorial or just janets?
- mindarmed
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
no, pay attention to the conclusion and the core.
if it doesn't have an argument core, find the main point of the stimulus.
if it doesn't have an argument core, find the main point of the stimulus.
- arcanecircle
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Re: LR: Do you pay attention to the speaker?
99% of the time it won't affect the question, one way or the other, but I can give you a specific example of one I actually got wrong a few months ago because I didn't pay attention to who the speaker was PT39-S4-Q22. If you don't realize the drama critic is the speaker, E) doesn't seem like it weakens the argument.
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