Black Female | 2.95 GPA | 163 LSAT Forum

[destined4gr8ness]

Black Female | 2.95 GPA | 163 LSAT
I attended a public university in North Carolina (not UNC ). Majored in Marketing and received my certification in Business Spanish.

I have a few notable softs:
-Interned for both Procter & Gamble and Hallmark Cards, Inc. at their corporate headquarters
-Interned for mcguirewoods LLP
-Started my own (successful!) business
-Very involved with community service (Relay for Life, Ronald McDonald House, Habitat for Humanity, etc.)
-Fluent in Spanish and studied abroad in Costa Rica
-Honors student (LSAC knocked me down a bit )

...I am also a skilled writer, and am anticipating 2 very strong recommendations!

What are my chances of getting into:
1. Emory
2. Notre Dame
3. University of Texas - Austin
4. Georgetown
5. University of Georgia
6. Cornell
7. UVA

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

[Nova]

What are my chances of getting into:
1. Emory (In)
2. Notre Dame (In)
3. University of Texas - Austin (out)
4. Georgetown (out)
5. University of Georgia (in)
6. Cornell (out)
7. UVA (out)

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

OP, we are a lot alike. Im 2.9/167 URM (MA). We both have terrible GPAs but decent apptitude and diversity.

You have to give the schools you are reaching for a good [numerical] reason to admit you. The best way of doing that, at this point, is having an LSAT that is at or above the schools median as a URM.

Since you already proved you can do well on the LSAT, I suggest retaking in June or October. If you hit the LSAT medians at your reach schools, you would have a much better shot at being admitted.

[Calchexas]

http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-co ... ograms.htm

^Fantastic resource, although I wouldn't take it as gospel unless you're talking about the T20 - your numbers all but guarantee that you can't get into those schools, and I would just save your money.

Other tier one schools are worth giving a shot, though (Emory Notre Dame Georgia): your URM status with really cool softs makes for a very competitive combo if they're "on the fence."

P.S. Write a GPR addendum to every school in the top 100 you apply to.

P.P.S. Ditto on the retake suggestion.

[destined4gr8ness]

What are my chances of getting into:
1. Emory (In)
2. Notre Dame (In)
3. University of Texas - Austin (out)
4. Georgetown (out)
5. University of Georgia (in)
6. Cornell (out)
7. UVA (out)

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

OP, we are a lot alike. Im 2.9/167 URM (MA). We both have terrible GPAs but decent apptitude and diversity.

You have to give the schools you are reaching for a good [numerical] reason to admit you. The best way of doing that, at this point, is having an LSAT that is at or above the schools median as a URM.

Since you already proved you can do well on the LSAT, I suggest retaking in June or October. If you hit the LSAT medians at your reach schools, you would have a much better shot at being admitted.

Thank you for such a fast response! ...I definitely plan to give it another shot!

[destined4gr8ness]

http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-co ... ograms.htm

^Fantastic resource, although I wouldn't take it as gospel unless you're talking about the T20 - your numbers all but guarantee that you can't get into those schools, and I would just save your money.

Other tier one schools are worth giving a shot, though (Emory Notre Dame Georgia): your URM status with really cool softs makes for a very competitive combo if they're "on the fence."

P.S. Write a GPR addendum to every school in the top 100 you apply to.

P.P.S. Ditto on the retake suggestion.

Solid advice; I appreciate your honesty!

[dietcoke0]

Retake and apply to all those universities anyway. Will get a nice URM bump, and get a 168ish, and you will be looking at T14.

[Systematic1]

Black Female | 2.95 GPA | 163 LSAT
I attended a public university in North Carolina (not UNC ). Majored in Marketing and received my certification in Business Spanish.

I have a few notable softs:
-Interned for both Procter & Gamble and Hallmark Cards, Inc. at their corporate headquarters
-Interned for McGuireWoods LLP
-Started my own (successful!) business
-Very involved with community service (Relay for Life, Ronald McDonald House, Habitat for Humanity, etc.)
-Fluent in Spanish and studied abroad in Costa Rica
-Honors student (LSAC knocked me down a bit )

...I am also a skilled writer, and am anticipating 2 very strong recommendations!

What are my chances of getting into:
1. Emory
2. Notre Dame
3. University of Texas - Austin
4. Georgetown
5. University of Georgia
6. Cornell
7. UVA

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

Barring a miracle, every school on your list is completely out of range. Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm not going to inflate your ego like the rest of the people on here. UVA, Cornell?...With a 2.95/163? Who are you kidding? Unless your "successful business" is nationally known (ie. facebook, twitter, etc.) then PLEASE stop this madness. If you are planning on law school the first thing you need to do is be realistic, but right now you are living in fantasy land. Retake, and lower your standards.

[Nova]

Barring a miracle, every school on your list is completely out of range. Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm not going to inflate your ego like the rest of the people on here. UVA, Cornell?...With a 2.95/163? Who are you kidding? Unless your "successful business" is nationally known (ie. facebook, twitter, etc.) then PLEASE stop this madness. If you are planning on law school the first thing you need to do is be realistic, but right now you are living in fantasy land. Retake, and lower your standards.

No one said she has a shot at UT/Cornell/Gtown/UVA. Everyone said retake. Not sure what you were reading...

Right now, OP does have a shot at the other T1s (not so much ND). Your sweeping generalization is wrong.

This year, Emory has admitted a 3.7 155 URM. They have waitlisted 10 URMs with LSATs of under 160 and under 3.3. OP would have better stats than all of them.

This year, a 164 2.8 URM got UGA. So did a 155 3.3 URM. So did a 160 3.4 URM.

[Lawst]

Barring a miracle, every school on your list is completely out of range. Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm not going to inflate your ego like the rest of the people on here. UVA, Cornell?...With a 2.95/163? Who are you kidding? Unless your "successful business" is nationally known (ie. facebook, twitter, etc.) then PLEASE stop this madness. If you are planning on law school the first thing you need to do is be realistic, but right now you are living in fantasy land. Retake, and lower your standards.

No one said she has a shot at UT/Cornell/Gtown/UVA. Everyone said retake. Not sure what you were reading...

Right now, OP does have a shot at the other T1s (not so much ND). Your sweeping generalization is wrong.

This year, Emory has admitted a 3.7 155 URM. They have waitlisted 10 URMs with LSATs of under 160 and under 3.3. OP would have better stats than all of them.

This year, a 164 2.8 URM got UGA. So did a 155 3.3 URM. So did a 160 3.4 URM.

Agreed that OP is not shut out of T1. I had 165, 2.85 and am NON-URM but with good WE and softs, and I was waitlisted last year at Fordham, but decided to withdraw my app and take a half-tuition scholly at a T2. I say this to make two points: 1. I should have been an auto-deny at Fordham, so numbers are not always everything, and 2. a few more points on the LSAT can make a world of difference. Good luck, OP!

[Systematic1]

No one said she has a shot at UT/Cornell/Gtown/UVA.

Retake and apply to all those universities anyway. Will get a nice URM bump, and get a 168ish, and you will be looking at T14.

Cornell/Gtown/UVA are all T14...

Retakes can't solve everything. Neither can URM status. Be realistic, that's all I ask.

[Nova]

No one said she has a shot at UT/Cornell/Gtown/UVA.

Retake and apply to all those universities anyway. Will get a nice URM bump, and get a 168ish, and you will be looking at T14.

Cornell/Gtown/UVA are all T14...

Retakes can't solve everything. Neither can URM status. Be realistic, that's all I ask.

Sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you meant with her current score.

I would put the number at 170 for a shot at T14. Do you realize how many AAs score 170 plus? a handful (<100). Scoring above the median as a URM gives you a shot. By no means is it a guarantee.

[destined4gr8ness]

Black Female | 2.95 GPA | 163 LSAT
I attended a public university in North Carolina (not UNC ). Majored in Marketing and received my certification in Business Spanish.

I have a few notable softs:
-Interned for both Procter & Gamble and Hallmark Cards, Inc. at their corporate headquarters
-Interned for McGuireWoods LLP
-Started my own (successful!) business
-Very involved with community service (Relay for Life, Ronald McDonald House, Habitat for Humanity, etc.)
-Fluent in Spanish and studied abroad in Costa Rica
-Honors student (LSAC knocked me down a bit )

...I am also a skilled writer, and am anticipating 2 very strong recommendations!

What are my chances of getting into:
1. Emory
2. Notre Dame
3. University of Texas - Austin
4. Georgetown
5. University of Georgia
6. Cornell
7. UVA

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

Barring a miracle, every school on your list is completely out of range. Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm not going to inflate your ego like the rest of the people on here. UVA, Cornell?...With a 2.95/163? Who are you kidding? Unless your "successful business" is nationally known (ie. facebook, twitter, etc.) then PLEASE stop this madness. If you are planning on law school the first thing you need to do is be realistic, but right now you are living in fantasy land. Retake, and lower your standards.

It is nationally known, actually... Internationally as well. Thank you for your opinion.

[destined4gr8ness]

Barring a miracle, every school on your list is completely out of range. Sorry to be so blunt, but I'm not going to inflate your ego like the rest of the people on here. UVA, Cornell?...With a 2.95/163? Who are you kidding? Unless your "successful business" is nationally known (ie. facebook, twitter, etc.) then PLEASE stop this madness. If you are planning on law school the first thing you need to do is be realistic, but right now you are living in fantasy land. Retake, and lower your standards.

No one said she has a shot at UT/Cornell/Gtown/UVA. Everyone said retake. Not sure what you were reading...

Right now, OP does have a shot at the other T1s (not so much ND). Your sweeping generalization is wrong.

This year, Emory has admitted a 3.7 155 URM. They have waitlisted 10 URMs with LSATs of under 160 and under 3.3. OP would have better stats than all of them.

This year, a 164 2.8 URM got UGA. So did a 155 3.3 URM. So did a 160 3.4 URM.

Agreed that OP is not shut out of T1. I had 165, 2.85 and am NON-URM but with good WE and softs, and I was waitlisted last year at Fordham, but decided to withdraw my app and take a half-tuition scholly at a T2. I say this to make two points: 1. I should have been an auto-deny at Fordham, so numbers are not always everything, and 2. a few more points on the LSAT can make a world of difference. Good luck, OP!

Thank you, I really appreciate it! Very motivational/inspirational stats!

[destined4gr8ness]

Retake and apply to all those universities anyway. Will get a nice URM bump, and get a 168ish, and you will be looking at T14.

Thanks! That's the plan! *fingers crossed*

[Systematic1]

It is nationally known, actually... Internationally as well. Thank you for your opinion.

Zuckerburg, is that you?

[destined4gr8ness]

It is nationally known, actually... Internationally as well. Thank you for your opinion.

Zuckerburg, is that you?

Your "humor" suggests a lack of maturity. I didn't post to be entertained... k'thanks bye.

[nucky thompson]

It is nationally known, actually... Internationally as well. Thank you for your opinion.

Zuckerburg, is that you?

Zuck ~= black female

[Systematic1]

I didn't post to be entertained...

Sure you did, you're entertaining yourself with wild fantasies of a T14 when your numbers are clearly not sufficient-even if you were to have a stellar retake. At some point you'll have to accept that. I'm just looking out for you.

[Nova]

I didn't post to be entertained...

Sure you did, you're entertaining yourself with wild fantasies of a T14 when your numbers are clearly not sufficient-even if you were to have a stellar retake. At some point you'll have to accept that. I'm just looking out for you.

SMH

URMs at Gtown:
160, 2.25
160, 3.1
155, 3.7
163, 3.3
166, 3.2
166, 3.3
168, 3.1

[destined4gr8ness]

It is nationally known, actually... Internationally as well. Thank you for your opinion.

Zuckerburg, is that you?

Zuck ~= black female

lol Thank you for making it plain, Nucky

[bdeebs]

You might get more useful information if you post this in the correct portion of the forums. I thought I was in the wrong spot at first when I saw this post.