Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time? Forum
- shifty_eyed

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Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
I took the LSAT in September 2009 and October 2010 and got 170 both times. I studied by taking old practice tests. The first time, I had been scoring 165-173 on practice tests and was pleasantly surprised by my score. The second time, I had been scoring 172-179 (consistently over 173 by the end of my studying), but had a bad testing experience and debated canceling (now wish I had!). I am open to retaking, but feel a third score would probably look bad unless I improved significantly, which realistically will be hard to do.
Until a recent promotion, my job was so stressful that I couldn't even think about studying and retaking the LSAT. Now, I have much more downtime, and could even study a bit at work (stealthily).
My GPA is 3.28. I have no compelling explanation for this, but I did get a dual degree (BS/BA) in two very different majors.
I think my best bet is applying EARLY next cycle with a polished PS and application. Therefore, I think I would need to take the June LSAT?
SO to sum up, should I retake the LSAT again? Is two months enough time to study, especially considering I haven't looked at one in a year and a half?
Until a recent promotion, my job was so stressful that I couldn't even think about studying and retaking the LSAT. Now, I have much more downtime, and could even study a bit at work (stealthily).
My GPA is 3.28. I have no compelling explanation for this, but I did get a dual degree (BS/BA) in two very different majors.
I think my best bet is applying EARLY next cycle with a polished PS and application. Therefore, I think I would need to take the June LSAT?
SO to sum up, should I retake the LSAT again? Is two months enough time to study, especially considering I haven't looked at one in a year and a half?
- T00L

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
The answer is ALWAYS yes if you think you can do better/ will always live is a state of "what if?"
Two 170s are pretty solid. The worst thing that can happen is you feel like you screwed up on the day and then cancel.
I personally know someone who had the same score twice before jumping 11pts on the third try. That person's admission cycle is going almost as if the first two never happened.*
*I would, however, assume that the higher one goes on the totem poll, the more likely schools are going to seriously look at all three scores. ex: a T30 might be gushing to take a 167 (with $$$) from someone who also had two 160s. On the other hand, harvard might hesitate more if it were 170/170/177.... see what im trying to say?
Two 170s are pretty solid. The worst thing that can happen is you feel like you screwed up on the day and then cancel.
I personally know someone who had the same score twice before jumping 11pts on the third try. That person's admission cycle is going almost as if the first two never happened.*
*I would, however, assume that the higher one goes on the totem poll, the more likely schools are going to seriously look at all three scores. ex: a T30 might be gushing to take a 167 (with $$$) from someone who also had two 160s. On the other hand, harvard might hesitate more if it were 170/170/177.... see what im trying to say?
- shifty_eyed

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
Thanks, T00L. I know with my GPA I'm not HYS or CCN material. I would LOVE a shot at Penn/Duke/Michigan/Vandy/UCLA/Texas (not geographically attached anywhere, really but am in TX now). With a 170 I think schools like Wash U, Emory, W&M are my best bets.
- Mr.Binks

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
I think if you're a Texas resident and you apply early, you have a pretty solid shot at UT, despite your GPA. Nevertheless, it's worth it to retake if you think you can improve.shifty_eyed wrote:Thanks, T00L. I know with my GPA I'm not HYS or CCN material. I would LOVE a shot at Penn/Duke/Michigan/Vandy/UCLA/Texas (not geographically attached anywhere, really but am in TX now). With a 170 I think schools like Wash U, Emory, W&M are my best bets.
- shifty_eyed

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
After spending the past couple hours stewing over this and reading TLS, I think a retake is worth it. Just not sure if I should aim for June or October. I feel like I can do it by June, but I don't want to end up thinking WHAT IF I waited. My other concern is that I generally get sleepy after lunch, and that the afternoon test time might actually be a disadvantage for me in June. On the other hand, I'd like to get the LSAT over with earlier, so I can concentrate on perfecting my applications.
I think I will start studying TODAY, and if I'm not scoring above 174 consistently on PTs before the deadline to sign up for the June LSAT, I should wait until October. Does this sound like a decent plan?
I think I will start studying TODAY, and if I'm not scoring above 174 consistently on PTs before the deadline to sign up for the June LSAT, I should wait until October. Does this sound like a decent plan?
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- Samara

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
Sounds like a good plan to me. Good luck!shifty_eyed wrote:After spending the past couple hours stewing over this and reading TLS, I think a retake is worth it. Just not sure if I should aim for June or October. I feel like I can do it by June, but I don't want to end up thinking WHAT IF I waited. My other concern is that I generally get sleepy after lunch, and that the afternoon test time might actually be a disadvantage for me in June. On the other hand, I'd like to get the LSAT over with earlier, so I can concentrate on perfecting my applications.
I think I will start studying TODAY, and if I'm not scoring above 174 consistently on PTs before the deadline to sign up for the June LSAT, I should wait until October. Does this sound like a decent plan?
- T00L

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
Hard call, but I would do everything I could to take June if I were you.shifty_eyed wrote:After spending the past couple hours stewing over this and reading TLS, I think a retake is worth it. Just not sure if I should aim for June or October. I feel like I can do it by June, but I don't want to end up thinking WHAT IF I waited. My other concern is that I generally get sleepy after lunch, and that the afternoon test time might actually be a disadvantage for me in June. On the other hand, I'd like to get the LSAT over with earlier, so I can concentrate on perfecting my applications.
I think I will start studying TODAY, and if I'm not scoring above 174 consistently on PTs before the deadline to sign up for the June LSAT, I should wait until October. Does this sound like a decent plan?
- lovejopd

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
Where have you been?~:-)Mr.Binks wrote:I think if you're a Texas resident and you apply early, you have a pretty solid shot at UT, despite your GPA. Nevertheless, it's worth it to retake if you think you can improve.shifty_eyed wrote:Thanks, T00L. I know with my GPA I'm not HYS or CCN material. I would LOVE a shot at Penn/Duke/Michigan/Vandy/UCLA/Texas (not geographically attached anywhere, really but am in TX now). With a 170 I think schools like Wash U, Emory, W&M are my best bets.
How's your prep~?
Hope you are doing great~~
- shifty_eyed

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
Also, should I take a class or stick with self-study?
- kennethellenparcell

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
Good luck! 
- shifty_eyed

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
I'm buying the logic games and reasoning bibles tonight, as well as all the practice tests I don't already own. Game on!
- LawSuccess

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
YES! Trust yourself. Take as much time as you think you'll need and use the method that you think will best work for you.
- Elston Gunn

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
Applying right after you get your October score is still way early. Nothing wrong with waiting if you need to.T00L wrote:Hard call, but I would do everything I could to take June if I were you.shifty_eyed wrote:After spending the past couple hours stewing over this and reading TLS, I think a retake is worth it. Just not sure if I should aim for June or October. I feel like I can do it by June, but I don't want to end up thinking WHAT IF I waited. My other concern is that I generally get sleepy after lunch, and that the afternoon test time might actually be a disadvantage for me in June. On the other hand, I'd like to get the LSAT over with earlier, so I can concentrate on perfecting my applications.
I think I will start studying TODAY, and if I'm not scoring above 174 consistently on PTs before the deadline to sign up for the June LSAT, I should wait until October. Does this sound like a decent plan?
- kennethellenparcell

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Re: Should I take the LSAT for a THIRD time?
Missed this question before. I think a class can certainly be helpful if you have the money, especially if you feel like you've peaked on your own. However, I would be cautious too. As previous posters have said, if you don't feel like you're scoring consistently where you want shortly before test day - don't take it in June. Instead, use that time to solidify your plan of attack to the LSAT. For me, where I was scoring shortly before test day was a great predictor for my actual LSAT score. I'm inclined to think that it's this way for most people - and that great deviations from scores shortly before the actual day of the test are anomalies.shifty_eyed wrote:Also, should I take a class or stick with self-study?
I did take a class (if you want more details on this, feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to share my experiences).
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