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[crumpetsandtea]

First off, some questions --

1) What does your prep schedule look like?
2) How many PTs have you taken, and are they timed properly?
3) What is your GPA?
4) What are your worst/best sections?

Now, my speculation based on the info in your OP --

Stop taking PTs. From your scores it seems like you haven't yet developed a proper foundation that will give you consistent and improving scores. The first thing anyone needs to do when studying is to make sure they can get near-100% accuracy on any section untimed. Then the next step is to focus on cutting down time until they can get near-100% accuracy in normal timing settings. Then they PT to make sure they have the endurance necessary to do well on the actual test (and also to familiarize themselves with things like proctors, testing conditions, etc)

Note that the first two steps revolve around drilling, not PTing. If you haven't already, you should pick up the Powerscore Bibles for LR and LG--they will help immensely if you have trouble in those areas (and they'll help even if you don't).

Based on your GPA, it might be a bad idea for you to take it this December. Actually, part of me wants to say regardless of your GPA it will be a bad idea. If you have a high GPA (ie 3.8 ), then you're gypping yourself if you settle for a lower score, because a high-160s will get you a shot at the T14 and a 17Xs will get you into the T14 and maybe even HYS. If you have a low or mid-range GPA, then you NEED to do well because you're dooming yourself to a shitty school if you don't. Even a sub-3.0 GPA can crack the T14 with a score in the mid-170s.

Don't underestimate the importance of the LSAT, and don't sell yourself short by taking the LSAT before you're ready. If you can answer my questions, I can probably give you some more advice specific to your situation.

[theavrock]

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[lushes3]

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That's cute but I think a more fitting pic would be one of her butting her head against a rock or something

[lushes3]

First off, some questions --

1) What does your prep schedule look like?
2) How many PTs have you taken, and are they timed properly?
3) What is your GPA?
4) What are your worst/

Don't underestimate the importance of the LSAT, and don't sell yourself short by taking the LSAT before you're ready. If you can answer my questions, I can probably give you some more advice specific to your situation.

Thank you very much for your response. I would push the LSAT back but I'm scared of missing another year of school. I prep for about 3 hours a day on week days after work and then about 4 to six on weekends. If i have a day off During the week I do about four to six hours then.

I've taken about 12 prep tests and yes all are properly timed. On average I'll get -2 to - 4 on the lg/rc , although of course there have been some nasty games sections I've encountered, like one of the last ones I did which was something involving mulch, stone and cleaning distribution I hated that one. On games I'm best At groups and in and outs ,ok with ordering , have trouble with games involving harder distribution deductions and circular or square arrangements. On the lr I can get up to -7 on each section and it's so frustrating because I understand the question types and what needs to be done but when I'm under time constraints especially I will sometimes miss little details in the prompts or in the answers and I can't seem to get past this. Or I'll pick the Half right but not quite answer on harder questions.

My undergrad gpa is 3.63 so not great and I'm def not putting my hopes into that.

[crumpetsandtea]

I'm kinda distracted right now so I'm going to come back with something more helpful but I just wanted to say that with a 3.63 you have a shot at CCN with an ED application, and definitely at the lower T14 with some money, IF you can score in the 170s. In the 160s, though, you're might get shut out of the T14 completely.

The LSAT is SUPER important! Is it worth giving up admissions/$$$ at such great schools just because you're impatient to start school? It's a decision that's ultimately your choice, but think about it carefully before you decide that you can't wait one more cycle.