If not _______, then ______ Forum
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wishyfishy

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If not _______, then ______
This rule, and "unless ________, then (not) ________." I've heard that it's a good to use a real life situation to figure out the inferences to rules. For example, I remember "if it rains, then I will get wet" for the "if ________, then ________" rule. That way when I reverse it and say "if I get wet," it makes sense that it's not necessarily from rain. But I can't seem to think of any examples that work for these two rules and whenever I encounter them, it takes me a good 30 seconds to figure out the inferences. So does anyone have a one sentence trick for remembering these?
- JoeFish

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Re: If not _______, then ______
If not X then Y is the same as "If ~X then Y", which is identical to "At least one of X or Y"
No X unless Y is the same as "If X then Y".
Unless Y, no X is the same as "If X then Y".
Just remember that you need the "no ___" in there for the last two. If it's X unless Y, then it's "If ~X then Y".
Although you may be looking something less logicspeak than this.
No X unless Y is the same as "If X then Y".
Unless Y, no X is the same as "If X then Y".
Just remember that you need the "no ___" in there for the last two. If it's X unless Y, then it's "If ~X then Y".
Although you may be looking something less logicspeak than this.
- lsatprepguy

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Re: If not _______, then ______
IIRC, when you see unless, that is the necessary condition, then negate the other part and that is the sufficient.
For example:
The dog walks unless it is raining outside.
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It is raining outside becomes the necessary condition.
--> It is raining outside.
The other part, negated, becomes the sufficient condition.
The dog does not walk ---->
TOGETHER
The dog does not walk ---> It is raining outside.
For example:
The dog walks unless it is raining outside.
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It is raining outside becomes the necessary condition.
--> It is raining outside.
The other part, negated, becomes the sufficient condition.
The dog does not walk ---->
TOGETHER
The dog does not walk ---> It is raining outside.
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tomwatts

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Re: If not _______, then ______
Unless I have a pencil, I won't be able to do well on the LSAT. Equivalently, if I don't have a pencil, I won't be able to do well on the LSAT.wishyfishy wrote:So does anyone have a one sentence trick for remembering these?
I know, it's cheesy, but this is the example that I use in class. Obviously, the pencil is necessary but not sufficient for doing well.
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- EarlCat

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Re: If not _______, then ______
"If not" diagrams just like "If," except with a "not" (usually represented by ! or ~)wishyfishy wrote:This rule, and "unless ________, then (not) ________." I've heard that it's a good to use a real life situation to figure out the inferences to rules. For example, I remember "if it rains, then I will get wet" for the "if ________, then ________" rule. That way when I reverse it and say "if I get wet," it makes sense that it's not necessarily from rain. But I can't seem to think of any examples that work for these two rules and whenever I encounter them, it takes me a good 30 seconds to figure out the inferences. So does anyone have a one sentence trick for remembering these?
If not A then B.
~A --> B
If you want a cute sentence, my dad used to say things like, "If they ain't bitchin' they ain't happy." Same "if not" diagram.
~B --> ~H
You can also think of "unless" as "if not."
Unless I have oxygen, I will die (or I will die unless I have oxygen).
~O --> D
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bp shinners

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Re: If not _______, then ______
Unless, until, except, and without can all be replaced with 'if not'. Significantly easier to work with.