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Prepping up until test date, how would you characterize your improvement?

A. Constant Improvement.
10
20%
B. Plateau
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12%
C. Sigmoid
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36%
D. Mini-Plateau
15
30%
E. Others
1
2%
 
Total votes: 50

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Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Precessional » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:56 pm

Prepping up until test date, how would you characterize your improvement?

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B:
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C:
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D:
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or E: Others (explain below)


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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by RPK34 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:00 pm

Definitely C.

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by dcwumpus » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:02 pm

D

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by kazu » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:04 pm

C, but I think I had one or two "bumps" in between as well. Did not go straight up in the middle.


Edit: oh and this would definitely work better if there was an actual survey at the top.
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Post by bleu » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:06 pm

b

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by beachbum » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:08 pm

I'm a lock for C

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Anaconda » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:14 pm

Survey time! And awesome question to ask people.

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Precessional » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:41 pm

kazu wrote:Edit: oh and this would definitely work better if there was an actual survey at the top.
Ah. Yeah. -_-

New to forums in general. Is there a quick guide out there as to how?

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by kazu » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:44 pm

Precessional wrote:
kazu wrote:Edit: oh and this would definitely work better if there was an actual survey at the top.
Ah. Yeah. -_-

New to forums in general. Is there a quick guide out there as to how?
Click edit on the OP, you should see it in the area below the main text box. I don't think it was that difficult :)

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Precessional » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:55 pm

kazu wrote: Click edit on the OP, you should see it in the area below the main text box. I don't think it was that difficult :)
Heh. Thanks. Edited.

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by ilovemulch » Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:53 pm

C for me

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by asoularisen » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:42 am

C... With the big increase being between the PT I took before I got my copy of the Logic Games Bible and the one I took after completing that book.

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Anaconda » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:57 pm

Does C mean that you only had one big spike and then your scores stayed fairly constant afterwards?

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by KibblesAndVick » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:00 pm

Anaconda wrote:Does C mean that you only had one big spike and then your scores stayed fairly constant afterwards?
I took C to mean that you had most of your improvement all at once and then it was slim pickin's as you hit a diminishing rate of returns.

The graphs are a nice touch.

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Anaconda » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:02 pm

KibblesAndVick wrote:
Anaconda wrote:Does C mean that you only had one big spike and then your scores stayed fairly constant afterwards?
I took C to mean that you had most of your improvement all at once and then it was slim pickin's as you hit a diminishing rate of returns.
Damn, that's not good then.

Hope those C people had diagnostics in the mid/high 160's :D

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Precessional » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:56 am

*nudge*

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Addicted to LSAT » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:22 am

With most of the responses for C and D, is it possible that those with C curves didn't push hard enough to reach that extra bump that would make it more like D? A bit like "The Dip"

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Precessional » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:32 am

Addicted to LSAT wrote:With most of the responses for C and D, is it possible that those with C curves didn't push hard enough to reach that extra bump that would make it more like D? A bit like "The Dip"
Hmm, that's certainly one possiblity.


I envisioned C to be like this:

1. Slow increase in score.
2. Big increase!
3. Slow increase.


And D to be kinda its converse:

1. Big jump in score!
2. Meh. Score improvement stuck.
3. Big jump in score!


Differences in effort, over time, could explain the discrepencies. When I created the poll, I was thinking about the LSAT's natural learning curve-- the same way tennis has its natural learning curve or C++ programming or learning Spanish.

But after spending some time here, on TLS, i realize that my initial ambition is ridiculous. There are too many free varaibles with different starting scores, different starting sweaknesses, and different efforts in preperation for individual learning curves to be elucidating towards whatever general conclusion about LSAT or LSAT-preperation.

As a nascent LSAT-peon, though, this poll is informative for the sort of bumps in score progress that may lie before me.

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by 3|ink » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:50 am

Yay. I'm the only one who selected others.

I scored 5 points below my best score on my first LSAT and 11 points below my best on my second LSAT. I scored the same on both tests. Screw the LSAC.

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Re: Survey: LSAT Learning Curve

Post by Addicted to LSAT » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:10 pm

I saw a decent jump early on, but I"m not sure if it was right away or after a few weeks of studying. (It's been a while)
Then I had a bit of a plateau, and only after taking a break and thinking I'd peaked did I come back with a new way of looking at some parts of the test and saw a second jump in my score.

Also, after writing it I've continued to teach and play with the LSAT (nerdy I know) and I've seen a slow rise of a few more points over the last few years to an almost perfect score. I've also seen very determined students struggle with it for a year or more and finally get a good score. So I guess the message here is that you may hit plateaus but you can usually work through it to more improvement if you're really determined. This often requires looking at things in a different way or trying a new approach.

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