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Preptest 15/section 2/question 20
Can anyone explain this question? Thank you!
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Re: Preptest 15/section 2/question 20
What a fun question!
Our job is to find a flaw in the argument. S.R. Evan's conclusion is that certain critics' judgments should be rejected. Why? Because those critics are not great poets (Evans says "true"), and only true poets can tell if poetry is great. How does Evans know that the critics are not great poets? Because, S.R. Evans explains, she (?) does not find their work to be great.
(BTW, I'm using "great" and "bad" instead of "true", as it's easier to digest the argument that way.)
What a strange argument! It would be valid if we knew for sure that Evans herself is a true poet. We could then apply the principle -- that good poets can tell if a poet is good -- allowing us to trust her judgment of poetry, and then when she tells us the critics have bad poetry, we would believe her, and we would know that those wannabe poet/critics are not qualified to critique poetry (since only true poets can). However, if it turns out that Evans is a crappy poet, then why would we believe her assessment of the critics' poems? And so those critics might actually be great poets, and thus they might be qualified to judge Evans' work (as crappy).
(A) explains this problem with the argument. Evans assumes she herself is a great poet, since otherwise why would she suggest we should accept her assessment of the critics?
(B) is incorrect as there is no distinction made between critics and poets that is relevant to the argument.
(C) is out of scope -- there is no discussion of "the standing of a poet."
(D) is similar to (B) in that it refers to a distinction that is not relevant.
(E) is out of scope - "improve their poetry"?
Does that clear it up?
If a diagram would help:
The argument is: Critics write bad poetry --> critics are not great poet --> critics not qualified to say my poetry sucks
But "Critics write bad poetry", according to the principle stated (judge poetry --> great poet), requires that Evans is a great poet, which is the big IF (assumption) of this argument.
And if a picture would help:
Our job is to find a flaw in the argument. S.R. Evan's conclusion is that certain critics' judgments should be rejected. Why? Because those critics are not great poets (Evans says "true"), and only true poets can tell if poetry is great. How does Evans know that the critics are not great poets? Because, S.R. Evans explains, she (?) does not find their work to be great.
(BTW, I'm using "great" and "bad" instead of "true", as it's easier to digest the argument that way.)
What a strange argument! It would be valid if we knew for sure that Evans herself is a true poet. We could then apply the principle -- that good poets can tell if a poet is good -- allowing us to trust her judgment of poetry, and then when she tells us the critics have bad poetry, we would believe her, and we would know that those wannabe poet/critics are not qualified to critique poetry (since only true poets can). However, if it turns out that Evans is a crappy poet, then why would we believe her assessment of the critics' poems? And so those critics might actually be great poets, and thus they might be qualified to judge Evans' work (as crappy).
(A) explains this problem with the argument. Evans assumes she herself is a great poet, since otherwise why would she suggest we should accept her assessment of the critics?
(B) is incorrect as there is no distinction made between critics and poets that is relevant to the argument.
(C) is out of scope -- there is no discussion of "the standing of a poet."
(D) is similar to (B) in that it refers to a distinction that is not relevant.
(E) is out of scope - "improve their poetry"?
Does that clear it up?
If a diagram would help:
The argument is: Critics write bad poetry --> critics are not great poet --> critics not qualified to say my poetry sucks
But "Critics write bad poetry", according to the principle stated (judge poetry --> great poet), requires that Evans is a great poet, which is the big IF (assumption) of this argument.
And if a picture would help:
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Re: Preptest 15/section 2/question 20
lol Thanks for the explanation and the picture!
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Re: Preptest 15/section 2/question 20
I just did this problem and got the right answer, but I'm not very comfortable with the diagram of the argument, specifically, distinguishing what's sufficient/necessary in the second premise (and the only true poets)...
For the sake of not plagiarizing LSAC, put in different context "the only great writers are those whose books are published"
From my example, is it: (great writer -> books are published) ?
I know that typically, "only" introduces and modifies the necessary/independent condition, but in my example, it seems that being published is required for being a great writer, so that "great writer"' cannot stand alone and is therefore the dependent condition.
Thanks in advance for your input!
For the sake of not plagiarizing LSAC, put in different context "the only great writers are those whose books are published"
From my example, is it: (great writer -> books are published) ?
I know that typically, "only" introduces and modifies the necessary/independent condition, but in my example, it seems that being published is required for being a great writer, so that "great writer"' cannot stand alone and is therefore the dependent condition.
Thanks in advance for your input!
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Re: Preptest 15/section 2/question 20
Hm, well based on AtlasLSATTeacher's response, it seems that my understanding is correct. Thank you Atlas for your elaborate explanation
Can anyone confirm the trend that I've observed with "the only" introducing the sufficient condition. I saw an entire thread dedicated to it, but I'm not quite convinced, but maybe I should be.
I would appreciate any input on the subject!
Can anyone confirm the trend that I've observed with "the only" introducing the sufficient condition. I saw an entire thread dedicated to it, but I'm not quite convinced, but maybe I should be.
I would appreciate any input on the subject!
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Re: Preptest 15/section 2/question 20
"The Only" ALWAYS introduces a sufficient condition. "Only" introduces a necessary one. That "the" in the front is a game changer!
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Re: Preptest 15/section 2/question 20
Tom is the only one who can sing. S --> T
The only one who can sing is Tom. S --> T
Only Tom can sing. S --> T
There will be singing only if Tom does it. S --> T
The only thing that Tom does is sing. T --> S
While there are definite patterns, I think it's best to not be formulaic about the approach with conditional statements and become intuitively clear about what is the required element in a given statement.
The game "if/then" works this skill: http://www.atlaslsat.com/arcade/
The only one who can sing is Tom. S --> T
Only Tom can sing. S --> T
There will be singing only if Tom does it. S --> T
The only thing that Tom does is sing. T --> S
While there are definite patterns, I think it's best to not be formulaic about the approach with conditional statements and become intuitively clear about what is the required element in a given statement.
The game "if/then" works this skill: http://www.atlaslsat.com/arcade/