PT 22 Section 4 Question 17 Forum

[deputamadre]

I don't see how the coach misinterprets the critics claim (B). It seems to me that the critics claim that the team is unprofessional (although hardly). The coach then follows in the first premise and says that the team was criticized for its enthusiasm (its behavior). What am I missing here? Do the critics, when they say behavior, refer to individual players and not the team? Not sure. Thanks beforehand.

[deputamadre]

...or could it be that the coach misinterpreted the critics' claim by making a faulty comparison to professional athletes, completely eluding the fact that it still makes the coach's team unprofessional... ????

[skip james]

...or could it be that the coach misinterpreted the critics' claim by making a faulty comparison to professional athletes, completely eluding the fact that it still makes the coach's team unprofessional... ????

i don't have the question in front of me, but i remember this question and that sounds about right.

[Knock]

I don't see how the coach misinterprets the critics claim (B). It seems to me that the critics claim that the team is unprofessional (although hardly). The coach then follows in the first premise and says that the team was criticized for its enthusiasm (its behavior). What am I missing here? Do the critics, when they say behavior, refer to individual players and not the team? Not sure. Thanks beforehand.

Just going from memory from taking this PT in somewhat recent memory.

The word professional is used ambiguously.

Someone says the team's bad behavior is unprofessional, in the sense of not appropriate. The coach then says if you look at the professionals, they behave badly. He then takes that to mean: acting professionally = behaving badly.

So he says that his team was playing professionally, because behaving badly = acting professionally.

Make sense? I can try and explain better if that doesn't do the trick.

[Knock]

I don't see how the coach misinterprets the critics claim (B). It seems to me that the critics claim that the team is unprofessional (although hardly). The coach then follows in the first premise and says that the team was criticized for its enthusiasm (its behavior). What am I missing here? Do the critics, when they say behavior, refer to individual players and not the team? Not sure. Thanks beforehand.

Okay, I grabbed my book, i'll try and give it a better shot.

#18 Stimulus: Our team has often been criticized for our enthusiasm in response to both our successes and our opponent's failures. But this behavior is hardly unprofessional, as our critics have claimed. On the contrary, if one looks at the professionals in this sport, one will find that they are even more effusive. Our critics should leave the team alone and let the players enjoy the game.

Question Stem: The coach's argument is most vulnerable to the charge that it:

Solving:
Premise 1: Our team has often been criticized for our enthusiasm in response to both our successes and our opponent's failures. (our team has bad behavior)

Premise 2: But this behavior is hardly unprofessional, as our critics have claimed. (Critics say that behavior is unprofessional, in the sense that unprofessional = inappropriate; However, the coach interprets it in the literal sense, that unprofessional means not professional)

Premise 3: On the contrary, if one looks at the professionals in this sport, one will find that they are even more effusive. (the coach holds this bad behavior as an example of the behavior exhibited by professionals)

Conclusion: Our critics should leave the team alone and let players enjoy the game. (Since our team exhibited the behavior of the professionals, we did not act unprofessionally).

Does that help? that was kind of hard to explain haha, please let me know if you need a better explanation, and I will give it a shot.