The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[SunDevil14]

I am currently working through my prep books. I would highly suggest the Powerscore Logic Games Bible. Originally I was not able to get through all 4 games in time, nor with tremendous accuracy. I completed the book about a week and a half ago, and am now consistently getting through all 4 games while only missing a few question if any.

My main question is about logical reasoning. Is there a large consensus on whether the stimulus should be read before the questions or vice versa? Rather, is choosing which to read first a matter of preference?

I have been recording my progress using both methods, and I consistently score higher when reading the question first. Although, my prep material suggestions reading the stimulus first. I'm curious of whether reading the question first will be detrimental in the long, despite currently yielding better results.

do whatever works best for you.

I agree with Proteinshake that you should do whatever works best for you. The only downside I have heard is that once you read the question before the stimulus, you can never get a truly fresh perspective on the game. You might see it biased and miss something. However, I read it first because I think the risk of that happening is worth knowing what to look for so you can pre-phrase your answer.

My thoughts exactly, I find the reading the question first enables me better focus on the stimulus, and more accurately construct a paraphrased answer. I am also able to move through the section faster. I believe those two factors combined mitigate the issue of creating a bias while reading the question.

To answer your other question, I try to get in at least 4 hours a day, 6 days a week. I usually go do 3 hours of drill/new material and prep, and 1+ hours of review.

Yeah, so true about your first point. And that sounds like an ideal balance. What time of day do you study at? Do you do it all in one shot or spread it out?

I usually spread it out into blocks ranging from 90minutes to 3 hours, it just depends on the day and how I am feeling.

[Mikey]

I take Sundays off from LSAT studying and the gym, I have no clue what to do with all this free time. probably just gonna read a book and get some groceries.

NETFLIX BINGE BRO!!

haha I'm not a big TV watcher. literally the only shows I watch are Suits, New Girl, and How to Get Away with Murder! I prefer to Xbox binge!

I've been meaning to take a look at New Girl, how is it? Suits and HTGAWM are great shows! Can't wait for Suits' new season next month. I got a friend into Suits and I didn't hear from him for a few days, turned out he nonstop watched suits and finished all seasons in a few days haha.

I love it! it's funny in a quirky/dumb kind of way and all the characters are likeable.

I'll have to check it out sometime this summer!

[20170322]

Lol, I got on such a roll with the personal statement that now I'm writing "Why X's". Hopefully after I take the test in September, every part of the application will be finished.

[Mikey]

Lol, I got on such a roll with the personal statement that now I'm writing "Why X's". Hopefully after I take the test in September, every part of the application will be finished.

Nice! When exactly did you come up with a topic for your PS? And how long did it take you to write it? I'm still having issues deciding what topic I want to write about.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I take Sundays off from LSAT studying and the gym, I have no clue what to do with all this free time. probably just gonna read a book and get some groceries.

NETFLIX BINGE BRO!!

haha I'm not a big TV watcher. literally the only shows I watch are Suits, New Girl, and How to Get Away with Murder! I prefer to Xbox binge!

I've been meaning to take a look at New Girl, how is it? Suits and HTGAWM are great shows! Can't wait for Suits' new season next month. I got a friend into Suits and I didn't hear from him for a few days, turned out he nonstop watched suits and finished all seasons in a few days haha.

I love Suits! It is great! Its gotten really emotional recently- Im interested in seeing how this new season starts and continues. I still haven't watched the new HoC season, but I purposely kept away so I don't get into another Netflix binge lol

[Mikey]

I take Sundays off from LSAT studying and the gym, I have no clue what to do with all this free time. probably just gonna read a book and get some groceries.

NETFLIX BINGE BRO!!

haha I'm not a big TV watcher. literally the only shows I watch are Suits, New Girl, and How to Get Away with Murder! I prefer to Xbox binge!

I've been meaning to take a look at New Girl, how is it? Suits and HTGAWM are great shows! Can't wait for Suits' new season next month. I got a friend into Suits and I didn't hear from him for a few days, turned out he nonstop watched suits and finished all seasons in a few days haha.

I love Suits! It is great! Its gotten really emotional recently- Im interested in seeing how this new season starts and continues. I still haven't watched the new HoC season, but I purposely kept away so I don't get into another Netflix binge lol

I'm anxiously wondering how the season is going to start off. I don't want to give anything away for those who haven't seen it so if you haven't, don't open the spoiler.

[+] Spoiler

Do you think the season will begin with Mike being IN jail or coming out of jail? I feel like Harvey is going to attempt to do something insane to get him out of jail if it starts with Mike on the inside.

[20170322]

Lol, I got on such a roll with the personal statement that now I'm writing "Why X's". Hopefully after I take the test in September, every part of the application will be finished.

Nice! When exactly did you come up with a topic for your PS? And how long did it take you to write it? I'm still having issues deciding what topic I want to write about.

Tbh, my PS is probably a little bland, since I wrote it about the extracurricular that I've basically spent all of college doing. It only took me a few hours to crank out, but I'll continue editing it and making it school-specific in the coming weeks.

Now, my Yale 250 on the other hand... it's dope. Like, I'd be proud to submit it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I take Sundays off from LSAT studying and the gym, I have no clue what to do with all this free time. probably just gonna read a book and get some groceries.

NETFLIX BINGE BRO!!

haha I'm not a big TV watcher. literally the only shows I watch are Suits, New Girl, and How to Get Away with Murder! I prefer to Xbox binge!

I've been meaning to take a look at New Girl, how is it? Suits and HTGAWM are great shows! Can't wait for Suits' new season next month. I got a friend into Suits and I didn't hear from him for a few days, turned out he nonstop watched suits and finished all seasons in a few days haha.

I love Suits! It is great! Its gotten really emotional recently- Im interested in seeing how this new season starts and continues. I still haven't watched the new HoC season, but I purposely kept away so I don't get into another Netflix binge lol

I'm anxiously wondering how the season is going to start off. I don't want to give anything away for those who haven't seen it so if you haven't, don't open the spoiler.

[+] Spoiler

Do you think the season will begin with Mike being IN jail or coming out of jail? I feel like Harvey is going to attempt to do something insane to get him out of jail if it starts with Mike on the inside.

That is exactly what I am interested in knowing haha.

[+] Spoiler

I don't think he will stay in there long at all, otherwise, the point of the show has kind of been lost. I'm curious as to what will happen once Mike gets out. Will he work for Pearson Specter as he did or will he have to go to law school again..etc? I don't think after getting put in jail like that he can just resume working like nothing happened, and as emotional as the show has been, there will be some more drawn out plot line.

[LSRAT]

Just set a personal PT record!!!!


PT #73
Conditions: 5-section, 7sage proctored.

RC: -3
LR1: -2
LG: -0
LR2: -1
Raw score: 95

Scaled: 176


So unbelievably pumped rn.

If you're taking PT 73 now, what's your game plan for which PT's your going to take closer to the test date? I ask because I've been trying to figure out which ones I want to do when.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Lol, I got on such a roll with the personal statement that now I'm writing "Why X's". Hopefully after I take the test in September, every part of the application will be finished.

Nice! When exactly did you come up with a topic for your PS? And how long did it take you to write it? I'm still having issues deciding what topic I want to write about.

Tbh, my PS is probably a little bland, since I wrote it about the extracurricular that I've basically spent all of college doing. It only took me a few hours to crank out, but I'll continue editing it and making it school-specific in the coming weeks.

Now, my Yale 250 on the other hand... it's dope. Like, I'd be proud to submit it.

What does the Yale 250 entail? What is the prompt (so-to-speak)?

[Mikey]

Lol, I got on such a roll with the personal statement that now I'm writing "Why X's". Hopefully after I take the test in September, every part of the application will be finished.

Nice! When exactly did you come up with a topic for your PS? And how long did it take you to write it? I'm still having issues deciding what topic I want to write about.

Tbh, my PS is probably a little bland, since I wrote it about the extracurricular that I've basically spent all of college doing. It only took me a few hours to crank out, but I'll continue editing it and making it school-specific in the coming weeks.

Now, my Yale 250 on the other hand... it's dope. Like, I'd be proud to submit it.

Ahh I see, I have to get on top of my shit with my PS. I'm glad you're confident about your 250 as well!

[Barack O'Drama]

I take Sundays off from LSAT studying and the gym, I have no clue what to do with all this free time. probably just gonna read a book and get some groceries.

NETFLIX BINGE BRO!!

haha I'm not a big TV watcher. literally the only shows I watch are Suits, New Girl, and How to Get Away with Murder! I prefer to Xbox binge!

I've been meaning to take a look at New Girl, how is it? Suits and HTGAWM are great shows! Can't wait for Suits' new season next month. I got a friend into Suits and I didn't hear from him for a few days, turned out he nonstop watched suits and finished all seasons in a few days haha.

I love Suits! It is great! Its gotten really emotional recently- Im interested in seeing how this new season starts and continues. I still haven't watched the new HoC season, but I purposely kept away so I don't get into another Netflix binge lol

I'm anxiously wondering how the season is going to start off. I don't want to give anything away for those who haven't seen it so if you haven't, don't open the spoiler.

[+] Spoiler

Do you think the season will begin with Mike being IN jail or coming out of jail? I feel like Harvey is going to attempt to do something insane to get him out of jail if it starts with Mike on the inside.

I love Suits, it is probably one of my favorite shows! I literally re-watched every episode around the holidays. Can't wait for this next season.

[+] Spoiler

I think he is going to be in jail when the seasons begins and then Harvey will definitely get him out lol

[Mikey]

[+] Spoiler

I don't think he will stay in there long at all, otherwise, the point of the show has kind of been lost. I'm curious as to what will happen once Mike gets out. Will he work for Pearson Specter as he did or will he have to go to law school again..etc? I don't think after getting put in jail like that he can just resume working like nothing happened, and as emotional as the show has been, there will be some more drawn out plot line.

Hmm, I'm wondering the same thing but we won't know until next month! lol

[Rupert Pupkin]

[+] Spoiler

I don't think he will stay in there long at all, otherwise, the point of the show has kind of been lost. I'm curious as to what will happen once Mike gets out. Will he work for Pearson Specter as he did or will he have to go to law school again..etc? I don't think after getting put in jail like that he can just resume working like nothing happened, and as emotional as the show has been, there will be some more drawn out plot line.

Hmm, I'm wondering the same thing but we won't know until next month! lol

Yeah, aka the worst part of shows: The waiting period between seasons haha.

[+] Spoiler

Also, wasn't his sentence only supposed to be 3 years. The season can just start after that time period has ended and he is released.

[Mikey]

[+] Spoiler

I think he is going to be in jail when the seasons begins and then Harvey will definitely get him out lol

Suits is dabes.

[+] Spoiler

Yeah I think he will be in jail. Harvey will put some of his magic and get him out early perhaps. They can even go a whole different route and show violence occurring in the jail with Mike.

[20170322]

Just set a personal PT record!!!!


PT #73
Conditions: 5-section, 7sage proctored.

RC: -3
LR1: -2
LG: -0
LR2: -1
Raw score: 95

Scaled: 176


So unbelievably pumped rn.

If you're taking PT 73 now, what's your game plan for which PT's your going to take closer to the test date? I ask because I've been trying to figure out which ones I want to do when.

Tbh, I'll probably just retake the 70's as we get closer to the test. This will give me a confidence boost, and familiarize me with the more recent question styles.

[20170322]

Lol, I got on such a roll with the personal statement that now I'm writing "Why X's". Hopefully after I take the test in September, every part of the application will be finished.

Nice! When exactly did you come up with a topic for your PS? And how long did it take you to write it? I'm still having issues deciding what topic I want to write about.

Tbh, my PS is probably a little bland, since I wrote it about the extracurricular that I've basically spent all of college doing. It only took me a few hours to crank out, but I'll continue editing it and making it school-specific in the coming weeks.

Now, my Yale 250 on the other hand... it's dope. Like, I'd be proud to submit it.

What does the Yale 250 entail? What is the prompt (so-to-speak)?

From my understanding, it's 250 words on basically anything. I chose to write fiction, which is probably a little too outside the box, but fuck it.

[Mikey]

[+] Spoiler

I don't think he will stay in there long at all, otherwise, the point of the show has kind of been lost. I'm curious as to what will happen once Mike gets out. Will he work for Pearson Specter as he did or will he have to go to law school again..etc? I don't think after getting put in jail like that he can just resume working like nothing happened, and as emotional as the show has been, there will be some more drawn out plot line.

Hmm, I'm wondering the same thing but we won't know until next month! lol

Yeah, aka the worst part of shows: The waiting period between seasons haha.

[+] Spoiler

Also, wasn't his sentence only supposed to be 3 years. The season can just start after that time period has ended and he is released.

[+] Spoiler

Probably. But no matter what, Mike doesn't have to live with his secret anymore. Yeah, he may get some shit from people for it but at least he won't have to live with the fear of being caught. He might have issues getting a job and stuff though imo.

[Mikey]

Just set a personal PT record!!!!


PT #73
Conditions: 5-section, 7sage proctored.

RC: -3
LR1: -2
LG: -0
LR2: -1
Raw score: 95

Scaled: 176


So unbelievably pumped rn.

If you're taking PT 73 now, what's your game plan for which PT's your going to take closer to the test date? I ask because I've been trying to figure out which ones I want to do when.

Tbh, I'll probably just retake the 70's as we get closer to the test. This will give me a confidence boost, and familiarize me with the more recent question styles.

Keep doing your thing Sweet

[Rupert Pupkin]

[+] Spoiler

I don't think he will stay in there long at all, otherwise, the point of the show has kind of been lost. I'm curious as to what will happen once Mike gets out. Will he work for Pearson Specter as he did or will he have to go to law school again..etc? I don't think after getting put in jail like that he can just resume working like nothing happened, and as emotional as the show has been, there will be some more drawn out plot line.

Hmm, I'm wondering the same thing but we won't know until next month! lol

Yeah, aka the worst part of shows: The waiting period between seasons haha.

[+] Spoiler

Also, wasn't his sentence only supposed to be 3 years. The season can just start after that time period has ended and he is released.

[+] Spoiler

Probably. But no matter what, Mike doesn't have to live with his secret anymore. Yeah, he may get some shit from people for it but at least he won't have to live with the fear of being caught. He might have issues getting a job and stuff though imo.

Good point!

[Mikey]

Lol, I got on such a roll with the personal statement that now I'm writing "Why X's". Hopefully after I take the test in September, every part of the application will be finished.

Nice! When exactly did you come up with a topic for your PS? And how long did it take you to write it? I'm still having issues deciding what topic I want to write about.

Tbh, my PS is probably a little bland, since I wrote it about the extracurricular that I've basically spent all of college doing. It only took me a few hours to crank out, but I'll continue editing it and making it school-specific in the coming weeks.

Now, my Yale 250 on the other hand... it's dope. Like, I'd be proud to submit it.

What does the Yale 250 entail? What is the prompt (so-to-speak)?

From my understanding, it's 250 words on basically anything. I chose to write fiction, which is probably a little too outside the box, but fuck it.

Hmm interesting, I've never actually looked at Yale's 250 info.

[SunDevil14]

Another Saturday, another LSAT!

PT 62:

LR 1: -4
LG: - 3 (Ran out of time right before the last question)
LR 2: - 6 (Ran out of time before the last 2)
RC - 6: (5 minutes called before last passage)

Score 164.

I am a bit perplexed as to why I run out of time; during timed drilling I am always quick (2-3 minutes early, every section), but can't seen to put it together on test day. During drilling I usually mix a max of 3 during a section - super weird...

Alas, I will review and learn from my mistakes!

how many PTs have you done?

5 total - 2 in the past 2 weeks.

it's normal to not do as good on your beginning PTs as you do on your drills. as you get used to taking full length PTs, you'll do just as good as you do during drills! but you should probably have seen at least some improvement over those 5 PTs!

I have seen improvement from a 160, so that is comforting.

I believe I am roughly in the same place as far as preparation and score.

PT 35:

LR 1: -2 (5 Minutes called with 4 questions left)
RC: -5 (5 Minutes called as I began the last passage)
LG: -5 (5 Minutes called as I began last game)
LG 2: -5 (5 minutes called with 6 questions left)

Score: 166

I have been studying 3 weeks, taken 4 timed practice tests, and up 4 points from my original 162. I took the latest practice test after completing both the LG bible and LR bible.

Are you struggling with time accuracy or both? Of the questions I complete before 5 minutes are called I usually only miss 2 at the most. Furthermore, when I take the test/sections without a 35 minute time limit I usually complete all sections in no more than 40 minutes while only missing a few in each section.

At this point, I focus much more on accuracy. As the test draws closer, I will place a greater emphasis on speed if I have not made solid improvements in my time.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't speed improve as accuracy and familiarity improve?

[20170322]

Lol, I got on such a roll with the personal statement that now I'm writing "Why X's". Hopefully after I take the test in September, every part of the application will be finished.

Nice! When exactly did you come up with a topic for your PS? And how long did it take you to write it? I'm still having issues deciding what topic I want to write about.

Tbh, my PS is probably a little bland, since I wrote it about the extracurricular that I've basically spent all of college doing. It only took me a few hours to crank out, but I'll continue editing it and making it school-specific in the coming weeks.

Now, my Yale 250 on the other hand... it's dope. Like, I'd be proud to submit it.

What does the Yale 250 entail? What is the prompt (so-to-speak)?

From my understanding, it's 250 words on basically anything. I chose to write fiction, which is probably a little too outside the box, but fuck it.

Hmm interesting, I've never actually looked at Yale's 250 info.

Tbh, my goal is a Dillard at UVA, so it's probably pointless to apply, but why not.

It also means I need AT LEAST a 172 on this test, so I should probably start focusing instead of googling schools. haha

[Mikey]

Lol, I got on such a roll with the personal statement that now I'm writing "Why X's". Hopefully after I take the test in September, every part of the application will be finished.

Nice! When exactly did you come up with a topic for your PS? And how long did it take you to write it? I'm still having issues deciding what topic I want to write about.

Tbh, my PS is probably a little bland, since I wrote it about the extracurricular that I've basically spent all of college doing. It only took me a few hours to crank out, but I'll continue editing it and making it school-specific in the coming weeks.

Now, my Yale 250 on the other hand... it's dope. Like, I'd be proud to submit it.

What does the Yale 250 entail? What is the prompt (so-to-speak)?

From my understanding, it's 250 words on basically anything. I chose to write fiction, which is probably a little too outside the box, but fuck it.

Hmm interesting, I've never actually looked at Yale's 250 info.

Tbh, my goal is a Dillard at UVA, so it's probably pointless to apply, but why not.

It also means I need AT LEAST a 172 on this test, so I should probably start focusing instead of googling schools. haha

Since the June group, I've seen your PT scores and I think you're fully capable of hitting that score. Just keep grinding and you'll get there!

[Alexandros]

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