The Official September 2014 Study Group Forum

chimera · Post by **chimera** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:30 am

rbrown0824 wrote:Sorry if it's been asked already, but which prep tests have you guys found the hardest? Also is anyone come closer to their blind review scores? Any tips on getting there?

December 2010 (PT62) was designed by Satan himself.

dasani13 · Post by **dasani13** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:35 am

rbrown0824 wrote:Sorry if it's been asked already, but which prep tests have you guys found the hardest? Also is anyone come closer to their blind review scores? Any tips on getting there?

PT 72

Louis1127 · Post by **Louis1127** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:27 am

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mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:55 am

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cavalier2015 · Post by **cavalier2015** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:13 pm

this is a dumb question but do you guys go through your correct answers while drilling or just cover the incorrect answers. for example, i did level 1 and level 2 questions of prinicple identify (57 questions) and missed 2. do i spend time going through all the 57 and identifying correct answer choices and why or just focus on the 2 i missed. i think i have a solid understanding of the question type; i basically look for an answer choice that within the scope of the argument and covers all basses for the conclusion to occur. i essentially treat principle identify questions as sufficient assumptions. is this wrong?

mornincounselor · Post by **mornincounselor** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:21 pm

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DestroyingTheLSAT · Post by **DestroyingTheLSAT** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:26 pm

cavalier2015 wrote:this is a dumb question but do you guys go through your correct answers while drilling or just cover the incorrect answers. for example, i did level 1 and level 2 questions of prinicple identify (57 questions) and missed 2. do i spend time going through all the 57 and identifying correct answer choices and why or just focus on the 2 i missed. i think i have a solid understanding of the question type; i basically look for an answer choice that within the scope of the argument and covers all basses for the conclusion to occur. i essentially treat principle identify questions as sufficient assumptions. is this wrong?

I only go over the correct answers I wasn't 100% sure of, if that helps.

Louis1127 · Post by **Louis1127** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:30 pm

DivineJustice wrote:Took an LR section from pt 52 today. Took a -4. Two of my wrong answers were Weaken questions, and the other two were on MSS. Does anyone have tips for how to approach weaken sections? Every section or PT I take, that question always happens to be one of the wrong answers I get. Going to take an RC section (untimed) tomorrow and tell you guys how I do. Excited to take another PT this weekend to finally see some good results and hopefully not a terrible RC score.

The guy above me inspired me to make goals for this week:

1. Keep drilling and reviewing weaken question types
2. Start drilling LG again. Finish linear games this week. I'm set with LG but there has to be a reason I can't knock my score down to -0.
3. Drill MSS and MBT questions
4. Complete and review two untimed RC sections.

Hey DivineJustice,

Weirdly, I find myself doing very well on strengthen and weaken questions, but worse on flaw questions.

Obviously, you have to find the gap in the argument/the assumption/the flaw/ whatever you want to call it.

One tip that helps me on weaken questions is to prephrase AN answer. My prephrase probably won't be THE CREDITED RESPONSE, but it gets me thinking in terms of how to make the conclusion less likely from the premises, and I have found that it helps.

Interestingly, prephrasing an answer seems to help me on resolve the paradox questions as well, and those used to give me a ton of trouble.

Hope that helps!

Yeezus · Post by **Yeezus** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:52 pm

Was hoping I wouldn't be on this thread, but here I am. Got a 166 today, after PTing in the 170s. Have to prep more seriously this time around.

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 4:54 pm

YeezusPiece wrote:Was hoping I wouldn't be on this thread, but here I am. Got a 166 today, after PTing in the 170s. Have to prep more seriously this time around.

Tough test?

Yeezus · Post by **Yeezus** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:02 pm

choward014 wrote:
YeezusPiece wrote:Was hoping I wouldn't be on this thread, but here I am. Got a 166 today, after PTing in the 170s. Have to prep more seriously this time around.
Tough test?

Yeah, I thought it was harder than usual. I'm hoping my poor performance was mainly nerves. Feeling like Peyton Manning after the Super Bowl right now...

some1uknown · Post by **some1uknown** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:58 pm

retaking after June PT in the 160s range, bombed the test and got a 151, my first PT -__-

WaltGrace83 · Post by **WaltGrace83** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:05 pm

some1uknown wrote:retaking after June PT in the 160s range, bombed the test and got a 151, my first PT -__-

You mean you scored the same as your diagnostic? How much did you study, eh?

Calbears123 · Post by **Calbears123** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:09 pm

163 was PT in the 168 170. Somehow went -6 on LG. Won't happen again

kbrizz · Post by **kbrizz** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:25 pm

Okay I get that this is a rookie question but I just need some clarification please.

I've been working through my powerscore LGB and was wondering how to start drilling next.

1. Where do I get all the problems?
2. Does Cambridge or someone like that sell them in packages that have certain problems grouped? (IE, grouping, linear, advanced) etc?

Thanks in advance!

~ a very very very nervous september taker

some1uknown · Post by **some1uknown** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:33 pm

WaltGrace83 wrote:
some1uknown wrote:retaking after June PT in the 160s range, bombed the test and got a 151, my first PT -__-
You mean you scored the same as your diagnostic? How much did you study, eh?

i put in about 20hrs a week for 3 months, i just don't know what happened to me on test day

WaltGrace83 · Post by **WaltGrace83** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:43 pm

some1uknown wrote:
WaltGrace83 wrote:
some1uknown wrote:retaking after June PT in the 160s range, bombed the test and got a 151, my first PT -__-
You mean you scored the same as your diagnostic? How much did you study, eh?

i put in about 20hrs a week for 3 months, i just don't know what happened to me on test day

probably just a bit of anxiety. You won't be as anxious next time around! Let's kill this thing!

Learn_Live_Hope · Post by **Learn_Live_Hope** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:45 pm

cavalier2015 · Post by **cavalier2015** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:01 pm

Is it a bad stratergy to not review questions that I got correct because I knew what the wrong answers were and why and just chose the one left and confirmed it and moved on.

DestroyingTheLSAT wrote:
cavalier2015 wrote:this is a dumb question but do you guys go through your correct answers while drilling or just cover the incorrect answers. for example, i did level 1 and level 2 questions of prinicple identify (57 questions) and missed 2. do i spend time going through all the 57 and identifying correct answer choices and why or just focus on the 2 i missed. i think i have a solid understanding of the question type; i basically look for an answer choice that within the scope of the argument and covers all basses for the conclusion to occur. i essentially treat principle identify questions as sufficient assumptions. is this wrong?
I only go over the correct answers I wasn't 100% sure of, if that helps.

gavaga1 · Post by **gavaga1** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:57 pm

CFC1524 · Post by **CFC1524** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:01 pm

gavaga1 wrote:Just did the 7sage problem sets for Sufficient Assumption/Pseudo Sufficient Assumption questions.
-2/10 on both. Probably need more drilling material for these kinds of questions. Not too good at this conditional logic stuff .

Just takes practice. Diagramming is useful in the beginning, but you'll eventually get to the point where you don't have to map out the conditional logic (except in a few rare cases) for LR questions.

Louis1127 · Post by **Louis1127** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:04 pm

gavaga1 wrote:Just did the 7sage problem sets for Sufficient Assumption/Pseudo Sufficient Assumption questions.
-2/10 on both. Probably need more drilling material for these kinds of questions. Not too good at this conditional logic stuff .

Prephrasing helps me, even when the answer choice doesn't resemble my prephrase, because it gets me thinking about that relationship between the premises and the conclusion, and how to close the gap between them.

Louis1127 · Post by **Louis1127** » Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:06 pm

kbrizz wrote:Okay I get that this is a rookie question but I just need some clarification please.

I've been working through my powerscore LGB and was wondering how to start drilling next.

1. Where do I get all the problems?
2. Does Cambridge or someone like that sell them in packages that have certain problems grouped? (IE, grouping, linear, advanced) etc?

Thanks in advance!

~ a very very very nervous september taker

1. Cambridge LSAT is a great source, although be prepared for high printing costs (I suggest taking advantage of free printing privileges at you work or a friend's work).

2. You bet! Many, many TLSers use these.

gavaga1 · Post by **gavaga1** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:10 am

longhorn65 · Post by **longhorn65** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:31 am

Has anyone here taken an last course? I'm curious because I am signing up for one tomorrow that seems to be pretty good have a few friends that did it and they swear that was the reason for their success. Hoping it prove to be as good as it sounds