real The Official December 2016 Waiters Group - Patience is a Virtue Forum

[Rigo]

Was this thread really started 10 months ago...?

are you officially taking in december? if so, let's fuck this shit up together

I'm thinking about it. Is there any evidence of people negotiating higher scholarships with December scores?

Yeah definitely. Even Feb and June scores.

[latetothis]

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[Hennessy]

Was this thread really started 10 months ago...?

are you officially taking in december? if so, let's fuck this shit up together

I'm thinking about it. Is there any evidence of people negotiating higher scholarships with December scores?

Yeah definitely. Even Feb and June scores.

Cool maybe I will wait til February. I have a lot going on between now and December.

[Hennessy]

Hello, hello. Coming over from the September thread and reposting this, just in case:

Any DC-area people here? I'm signing up for December and my test center options are:

University of Maryland - College Park
Northern Virginia CC - Annandale
Northern Virginia CC - Springfield
Montgomery College
Bowie State University

If anyone has any recommendations/warnings, please let me know!

My friend took it at UMD and said it was loud on campus and not relaxing at all and proctors were kinda crap.

[kindofcanuck]

There we go, all registered to do this again.

Cannot believe the next two months are prepping blind without being able to see what I flunked. Although I suspect it was mediocre performance across the board.

Do you know if you can get the late feed removed? Do you just email them?

Instructions are on the lsac site but yeah, email lsacrefunds at lsac with a subject line late fee refund & include your account number. Needs to be within about 4 days, as I recall.

I can't seem to find any information about this on the site. Am I just dumb or is it hidden somewhere?

http://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/lsat-cas-refunds

Late fees—Exception: If you missed the regular registration deadline for the upcoming LSAT because you were waiting for your score from the previous administration, you are eligible, upon request, for a refund of the late fee that you incur during the late registration period. (Read more) (click to expand/collapse)
After you register for the upcoming test, submit a written request for a refund of the late fee within 4 days after the late registration deadline. Please note that late fee refunds will be issued only to those who received a valid score for the prior administration. Refunds will not be issued to those who were absent, cancelled their score, or were dismissed from the test.
Please email your request to LSACrefunds(at)LSAC.org and insert Late Fee Refund in the subject line of the email.

[latetothis]

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[dj9i27]

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[Instrumental]

Took another PT this morning, it was an unreleased LSAT that is in the Official Superprep II book (PrepTest C).
AR: -0 (First time I've gone -0 on an AR)
LR1: -1
LR2: -0
RC:... -8
Total/Score: 91/170

Oh my fucking god I hate RC so much. What the hell is wrong with my brain that I can't do this shit. Like despite the fact that I got an entirely acceptable score to me, I fucking hate that I'm still bombing this section after studying it for months. Every other section I improve. And that one consistently just shits on me.

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[caliway321]

Checking in for December...

Just got my September score back yesterday, and I am extremely disappointed. I first took the test back in June 2015 and scored a 162. I hadn't so much as cracked open an LSAT book--I was taking it "just to see what I could get". In retrospect, this was very very dumb, but live and learn.

For September, I studied for months. I have a FT job, so it was mainly before and after work. I took 2-3 practice tests per week, all under extremely strict simulated conditions. My overall average was 172; my last 8 PTs were each exactly 171 (the past 8 administrations). My highest PT score was 177; in the last two months before the test, my lowest was 168.

On test day, I scored a 166. I was pretty anxious, but I wouldn't say I have major test anxiety or anything. I got a good night's sleep and felt prepared. My issue was very specific, and not exactly amenable to an addendum: I almost always drink 2-3 cups of coffee a day, and I almost always took my PTs at night. In my stressed-out brain state, I thought that meant I should drink 2-3 cups of coffee BEFORE the test.

During the first three sections, all I thought about was whether it would really be THAT big of a deal if I peed myself (I did not). It sounds so stupid, but I have seen crazier things on this thread. My need to pee caused me to have a literal breakdown. And since all I could think about was how much I had to use the bathroom, I started to have pretty significant anxiety (i.e. hands shaking) because I couldn't focus on the test.

I ended up going -9 on RC, worse than I have ever done. Of the 17 questions I got incorrect, 8 of them were extremely careless mistakes. So....looks like a retake for me!

Hoping to be a bit more involved in the December study group. Most of my friends/family members have *zero* idea how the LSAT works, and I think it will be good for my mental health (and theirs) if I have an outlet that actually understands the process. I'm going to do my best to not let the LSAT consume my life. Happy studying!

[caliway321]

Hello, hello. Coming over from the September thread and reposting this, just in case:

Any DC-area people here? I'm signing up for December and my test center options are:

University of Maryland - College Park
Northern Virginia CC - Annandale
Northern Virginia CC - Springfield
Montgomery College
Bowie State University

If anyone has any recommendations/warnings, please let me know!

In DC area, and I just signed up yesterday. I took the test at AU in September, and it was amazing. Unfortunately, there are no spots left Of the test centers above, I have heard that Annandale and Bowie are "okay". I've heard that all of the others are pretty horrible. I signed up for Annadale because Bowie is like, farther away than Mars.

[Instrumental]

Took another PT this morning, it was an unreleased LSAT that is in the Official Superprep II book (PrepTest C).
AR: -0 (First time I've gone -0 on an AR)
LR1: -1
LR2: -0
RC:... -8
Total/Score: 91/170

Oh my fucking god I hate RC so much. What the hell is wrong with my brain that I can't do this shit. Like despite the fact that I got an entirely acceptable score to me, I fucking hate that I'm still bombing this section after studying it for months. Every other section I improve. And that one consistently just shits on me.

RC is sometimes the bitchest section in the world and other times it saved my ass. I think the best thing to do is try and become immersed and interested in the topic, even if it's something about lacquer. helluva score bud , sign of good things to come 6 weeks more of improvement.

Thanks man. Yeah, I've never gone -1 on LR so hopefully that sticks. Unlike the other sections, I always feel like I'm slogging through RC. Usually get through it in time, it just feels more laborious. I'm going to drill it even more than I did prior to September. Doing and redoing multiple sections a day. It's the only section I've never gone -0 on now and I have never been consistent with it.

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[Greenteachurro]

When you guys do drills do you often re do old sections that you've previously done?

[dj9i27]

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[kindofcanuck]

When you guys do drills do you often re do old sections that you've previously done?

Not timed. But so long as it's not a section you've done in the last few weeks, it can be helpful to go through and explain the logic for every question.

[Greenteachurro]

When you guys do drills do you often re do old sections that you've previously done?

Not timed. But so long as it's not a section you've done in the last few weeks, it can be helpful to go through and explain the logic for every question.

How do you personally do drills? Prior to this round of studying I've been doing timed sections, by giving myself a little less time than normal, and then doing 7sage memory method for RC.

With PT's and BR the bulk of my studying

[Instrumental]

When you guys do drills do you often re do old sections that you've previously done?

Yeah, with LR, I normally just drill the questions I missed, with the other sections I just do the whole thing.

[kindofcanuck]

When you guys do drills do you often re do old sections that you've previously done?

Not timed. But so long as it's not a section you've done in the last few weeks, it can be helpful to go through and explain the logic for every question.

How do you personally do drills? Prior to this round of studying I've been doing timed sections, by giving myself a little less time than normal, and then doing 7sage memory method for RC.

With PT's and BR the bulk of my studying

Personally? New section. 35 minutes. Flag questions I'm not sure about. Finish. Score. Go back. Every Q I got wrong, and every Q I had a ? beside, write out by every answer choice why the right one was right and the wrong ones were wrong.

When repeating a section, do again but without the timed part, and don't bother counting (the score's irrelevant, and doesn't mean anything when you might remember the answers). Just do the test, mark it when complete, review to get the logic on anything you were less than 100% on.

[Rupert Pupkin]

When you guys do drills do you often re do old sections that you've previously done?

Yeah, with LR, I normally just drill the questions I missed, with the other sections I just do the whole thing.

I didn't do this enough the first time around, but going to really focus on it. Thats wear you really learn from your mistakes. Its so easy to review what you got wrong and be like "Oh i know what to do now..." --aka false confidence. The only real way to verify that is to do at some point in the future again and see if you didn't fall for the same logical fallacy and mistake.

[Barack O'Drama]

When you guys do drills do you often re do old sections that you've previously done?

Yeah, with LR, I normally just drill the questions I missed, with the other sections I just do the whole thing.

I didn't do this enough the first time around, but going to really focus on it. Thats where you really learn from your mistakes. Its so easy to review what you got wrong and be like "Oh i know what to do now..." --aka false confidence. The only real way to verify that is to do at some point in the future again and see if you didn't fall for the same logical fallacy and mistake.

So fucking true ^^^

[Rupert Pupkin]

When you guys do drills do you often re do old sections that you've previously done?

Yeah, with LR, I normally just drill the questions I missed, with the other sections I just do the whole thing.

I didn't do this enough the first time around, but going to really focus on it. Thats where you really learn from your mistakes. Its so easy to review what you got wrong and be like "Oh i know what to do now..." --aka false confidence. The only real way to verify that is to do at some point in the future again and see if you didn't fall for the same logical fallacy and mistake.

So fucking true ^^^

BRing and doing this seems like a waste of time because it takes so much longer, but this is really where I feel like you improve

[Vino.Veritas]

When you guys do drills do you often re do old sections that you've previously done?

Yeah, with LR, I normally just drill the questions I missed, with the other sections I just do the whole thing.

I didn't do this enough the first time around, but going to really focus on it. Thats where you really learn from your mistakes. Its so easy to review what you got wrong and be like "Oh i know what to do now..." --aka false confidence. The only real way to verify that is to do at some point in the future again and see if you didn't fall for the same logical fallacy and mistake.

So fucking true ^^^

BRing and doing this seems like a waste of time because it takes so much longer, but this is really where I feel like you improve

I'm definitely going to be doing this more this time around, especially considering I'm running low on PTs, which is a huge concern for me at the moment.

[kindofcanuck]

This morning for games, decided to challenge myself, pulled up a list of 'hardest games ever'. Wound up doing PT62, section 3, for the colored glass windows, described one one list as "probably in the running for the second hardest game of all time".

Section was -4 (uck), missing 1 on all games. Colored glass was the second easiest game of the entire section, where I caught up a lot of time lost. The first and third games on the section were horrible, esp with the third which meant I only had three minutes left for the last game (fortunately, one of the easiest ever).

Takehome lesson: Lists of 'hardest games' are entirely from the perspective of the person writing the list, and their idea of 'hard' may be your 'thank god for something to catch up on the clock with'.

[Greenteachurro]

This morning for games, decided to challenge myself, pulled up a list of 'hardest games ever'. Wound up doing PT62, section 3, for the colored glass windows, described one one list as "probably in the running for the second hardest game of all time".

Section was -4 (uck), missing 1 on all games. Colored glass was the second easiest game of the entire section, where I caught up a lot of time lost. The first and third games on the section were horrible, esp with the third which meant I only had three minutes left for the last game (fortunately, one of the easiest ever).

Takehome lesson: Lists of 'hardest games' are entirely from the perspective of the person writing the list, and their idea of 'hard' may be your 'thank god for something to catch up on the clock with'.

Lol on pt 57, with the dinosaur game, I always felt like the game after it was actually much more difficult