The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:14 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Oh man I just realized how little time we have left. We're reaching the point when normal people start studying.

You're telling me.
-feb taker

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:31 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Oh man I just realized how little time we have left. We're reaching the point when normal people start studying.

Thanks for bringing that up! Helps me get my act together!

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:36 pm

nlee10 wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Oh man I just realized how little time we have left. We're reaching the point when normal people start studying.
You're telling me.
-feb taker

How's it going, nlee? What are you PTing around for the fresh ones?

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:38 pm

lawjag2015 wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Oh man I just realized how little time we have left. We're reaching the point when normal people start studying.
You're telling me.
-feb taker
How's it going, nlee? What are you PTing around for the fresh ones?

Yeah been doing the 52-present now and scoring upper 160's. Trying not to freak out. But if I have to retake in June, no biggie

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:38 pm

Do you guys save your drills and PTs? I have all these stacks of paper and I don't see myself ever studying them to find patterns of mistakes, etc.

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:41 pm

nlee10 wrote:
lawjag2015 wrote:
nlee10 wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Oh man I just realized how little time we have left. We're reaching the point when normal people start studying.
You're telling me.
-feb taker
How's it going, nlee? What are you PTing around for the fresh ones?
Yeah been doing the 52-present now and scoring upper 160's. Trying not to freak out. But if I have to retake in June, no biggie

Great job! You are getting better fast!

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:44 pm

RZ5646 wrote:Do you guys save your drills and PTs? I have all these stacks of paper and I don't see myself ever studying them to find patterns of mistakes, etc.

Hope you are doing BR at least. BR, recording mistakes, identifying weaknesses, etc., is critical. All this is stuff that I did not do for my two takes so far. Doing it this time. It does put a huge strain on your other scheduled study though!

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:31 am

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Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:33 am

Today I was thinking about how ironic your username is given your LG struggles.
Great job nonetheless. You'll get there.

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:01 am

gamerish wrote:DID A 10 MINUTE COMPLEX ORDERING GAME IN UNDER 9 MINUTES WITH -0!

ETA: Oh crap. I've seen it before. I didn't even remember I'd done it until I started the 7sage video though...

Good job, I don't think it matters that you did it before it you didn't remember until you watched the video. I wish I could do an RC passage in under 9 minutes and go -0

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:06 am

gamerish wrote:DID A 10 MINUTE COMPLEX ORDERING GAME IN UNDER 9 MINUTES WITH -0!

ETA: Oh crap. I've seen it before. I didn't even remember I'd done it until I started the 7sage video though...

If you wait awhile I don't think there's much harm in redoing games. There are a few I have memorized parts of, but for most I only vaguely remember the situation; I don't remember the logical part or the answer choices.

The important thing is to space out the repeats so you don't reinforce your memories (which is why I'm suspicious of 7sage's advice to redo games immediately and/or the next day).

I did some today that I hadn't seen for 3 weeks... I cut my times significantly (12 minutes in one case lol) and went -0, so hopefully that means I'm making progress.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:17 am

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JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:24 am

gamerish wrote:
JackelJ wrote:Good job, I don't think it matters that you did it before it you didn't remember until you watched the video. I wish I could do an RC passage in under 9 minutes and go -0
How long does it typically take you to read a passage?

I'm not sure how long to read the actual passage, I'm guessing 4 minutes or so, but I've been pretty consistent at 10 minutes per passage for reading and answering questions. Given 10 minutes I can usually go -0 or -1 for each passage but it leaves me with 5 minutes for the last one and I scramble to get as many questions answered as I can by skimming the passage.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:43 am

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JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:51 am

Yeah, I'll time how long it takes me to actually read the passages so I have a better idea of how to approach it. I've tried reading it quickly, but then I usually just have to read it again and it takes longer. Guess I'll have to try and find that sweet spot maybe 3 minutes or so?

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:04 am

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CPAlawHopefu · Post by **CPAlawHopefu** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:59 am

Just reporting on my progress here:

Since mid-December, I have completed the LG Bible, Mike's Trainer, and half-way done with the Manhattan LR. I am also working my way down the LG drill from Cambridge, and have yet to start the drill for LR.

Rough timeline:

By Jan 31 - Finish Manhattan LR
By mid-March - Finish Drilling every section
By mid-April - Untimed PT (39-51), focus on getting every question correct.
Until the D-Day - Timed PTs (52-74), focus on timing

JazzyMac · Post by **JazzyMac** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:04 am

CPAlawHopefu wrote:Just reporting on my progress here:

Since mid-December, I have completed the LG Bible, Mike's Trainer, and half-way done with the Manhattan LR. I am also working my way down the LG drill from Cambridge, and have yet to start the drill for LR.

Rough timeline:

By Jan 31 - Finish Manhattan LR
By mid-March - Finish Drilling every section
By mid-April - Untimed PT (39-51), focus on getting every question correct.
Until the D-Day - Timed PTs (52-74), focus on timing

That's pretty grand!

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:30 am

CPAlawHopefu wrote:Just reporting on my progress here:

Since mid-December, I have completed the LG Bible, Mike's Trainer, and half-way done with the Manhattan LR. I am also working my way down the LG drill from Cambridge, and have yet to start the drill for LR.

Rough timeline:

By Jan 31 - Finish Manhattan LR
By mid-March - Finish Drilling every section
By mid-April - Untimed PT (39-51), focus on getting every question correct.
Until the D-Day - Timed PTs (52-74), focus on timing

Thought I might add a suggestion. I recommend using half of Pt 39-51 for timed sections. After drilling for so long, although your accuracy might have improved, your endurance might not be ready.

Petrichor · Post by **Petrichor** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:43 am

anyone here use 7sage? each 'chapter' has a time that i assume indicates how long it takes to complete the chapter but i feel that it usually only takes 1/2 or 2/3 the time to finish them..

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:49 am

Petrichor wrote:anyone here use 7sage? each 'chapter' has a time that i assume indicates how long it takes to complete the chapter but i feel that it usually only takes 1/2 or 2/3 the time to finish them..

I had JY's voice set at 1.4x so I finished the lessons a lot quicker than the suggested time limit.

a_parm · Post by **a_parm** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:05 pm

Petrichor wrote:anyone here use 7sage? each 'chapter' has a time that i assume indicates how long it takes to complete the chapter but i feel that it usually only takes 1/2 or 2/3 the time to finish them..

I listen to him at 1.x7 or 1.4x or 1.2x. Depending on how much i already know

a_parm · Post by **a_parm** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:08 pm

speaking of having no motivation. Spent 2 days doing absolutely no lsat stuff.

Hopefully today is good.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:13 pm

Doing logic games in the morning is a great way to ruin your day.