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get a little sauced.
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spark up.
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Post by Mikey » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:57 am

etramak wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
etramak wrote:-2 on the June 2016 retake. One of the ones I got wrong was something I got right in the real thing which is annoying.

Gonna do some light drilling every day until Saturday and hope for the best on that fateful morning. Woke up at 11 today but I'll try to wake up at 645-7 the rest of the week. The tokens passage wasn't as hard the second time around but god dammit those questions were still difficult.
yo, i went -0 on the jury nullification passage back in June, but on my retake I got 1 wrong on it -___-
Was it number 5? I almost got fooled by D but switched it to E on second thought
Number 5 was iffy between D and E for me too but I chose the right answer. But the one I got wrong on this passage was #3. I was stuck between B and C and chose the wrong one

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Post by Mikey » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:01 am

got myself a white chocolate mocha with my name (NOT ALEX'S) written all over it :D

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Post by galeatus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:02 am

34iplaw wrote: Yeah - I understand. I think one thing to do is make sure you get what the conclusion is actually stating. I think the trickiest ones are where the NAs are technically SAs as well. They aren't that common, but they do have them from time to time... i.e.

premise: A
N/A:
conclusion: B

in this case, a necessary assumption could be A->B whereas it is also a sufficient assumption.

There are also somewhat tricky ones where there isn't actually evidence given in support of a position, so the NA is the evidence in support of that position. This typically happens in comparative stims. There's one about hairless dogs that's a pretty good one that (I think it's a necessary question) illustrates this concept.
That helps a lot! I have been going into all the NA Qs assuming (what's that saying about assume again?) that the flaw of the stem is always in the way the conclusion is supported without realising that the flaw might be that there simply support!

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:07 am

TheMikey wrote:got myself a white chocolate mocha with my name (NOT ALEX'S) written all over it :D
I feel personally attacked right now.

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Post by Mikey » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:08 am

Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:got myself a white chocolate mocha with my name (NOT ALEX'S) written all over it :D
I feel personally attacked right now.
ad hominem flaw is this bitch

you know ily bro :mrgreen:

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:24 am

When you studying for your midterms but not the test that will determine your future.

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Post by ashrice13 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:40 am

appind wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
34iplaw wrote:
SweetTort wrote:I've been sleeping 10 hours a night, and I really hope that's a good thing for the test.
I'm trying to make sure I get a lot of sleep. I'm laying in bed even if redditing or mucking around with a program or watching something on youtube (checked out the Anthony Bourdain raw made thing which is kind of cool... really good extension of what he does IMO) and making sure I'm out by 11:00.

I have a feeling I may not sleep the best the night of.

Tbh, knowing myself, even if I get no sleep the night before I'll be fine, so long as I get lots of sleep in the previous nights. The test is so early that you wouldn't get super tired until noonish.
Then you're good to go. I'm fairly similar. I can't do it as much as I used to, but I can, generally, run fairly decently on 2-3 hours of sleep a night for 3-4 days every now and then.
thatlawlkid wrote:I'm pretty sure no one will even be able to read whatever it is that i write for the prompt. Thanks to a healthy dose of public school and that whole "no child left behind" my handwriting looks like a drunk bug covered in ink ran around the page.
Anyone know about writing in cursive vs. print? Doesn't really matter I somewhat assume? Granted, writing cursive with a pencil can sometimes kind of suck.
I am not sure if it matters. i have written in cursive all my life and am very slow with print, so i go cursive.
My regular handwriting is an odd mix of printing and cursive so I'm just gonna go with that.

Also...I'm a lefty. They do not want me to write completely in cursive in pencil as a lefty. Not if they want to see something other than smudges.
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Post by thatlawlkid » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:41 am

LEFTIES UNITE!

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:45 am

I think if I leave the test center feeling anything but amazing, I'm gonna preemptively register for December.

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Post by ashrice13 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:47 am

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thatlawlkid wrote:LEFTIES UNITE!
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Post by appind » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:02 pm

Alexandros wrote:-0 and -0 on 78 LR. First one was really smooth, marked a few on the second one but didn't find it too bad. Hopefully this is a good sign. (maybe I know how logically reason again?)

Spending the rest of the day on RC and LG. (thank god)
holy, that's great. fresh test and if you have completed other 78 sections?

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Post by studyingeveryday » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:32 pm

Went from 167 on PT77 two days ago to 162 on PT78 today. :oops:

Just gonna review, try not to think about it, and rest. I've reached my target score (166) a few times while PTing, but I still have this nervous feeling wondering if I should just wait until December, but I really don't want to wait that long to apply and continue to study for this test (this week is going to be my third time taking it).

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Post by thatlawlkid » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:34 pm

studyingeveryday wrote:Went from 167 on PT77 two days ago to 162 on PT78 today. :oops:

Just gonna review, try not to think about it, and rest. I've reached my target score (166) a few times while PTing, but I still have this nervous feeling wondering if I should just wait until December, but I really don't want to wait that long to apply and continue to study for this test (this week is going to be my third time taking it).
No reason you can't just go for both. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

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Post by studyingeveryday » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:36 pm

thatlawlkid wrote:
studyingeveryday wrote:Went from 167 on PT77 two days ago to 162 on PT78 today. :oops:

Just gonna review, try not to think about it, and rest. I've reached my target score (166) a few times while PTing, but I still have this nervous feeling wondering if I should just wait until December, but I really don't want to wait that long to apply and continue to study for this test (this week is going to be my third time taking it).
No reason you can't just go for both. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
I can't do both this week and December because this week will be my third time. I think I would just apply with the numbers I have at that point instead of waiting another cycle.

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Post by tskela » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:22 pm

my new mantra is "there's always december" to keep the nerves in check

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Post by thatlawlkid » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:32 pm

studyingeveryday wrote:
thatlawlkid wrote:
studyingeveryday wrote:Went from 167 on PT77 two days ago to 162 on PT78 today. :oops:

Just gonna review, try not to think about it, and rest. I've reached my target score (166) a few times while PTing, but I still have this nervous feeling wondering if I should just wait until December, but I really don't want to wait that long to apply and continue to study for this test (this week is going to be my third time taking it).
No reason you can't just go for both. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
I can't do both this week and December because this week will be my third time. I think I would just apply with the numbers I have at that point instead of waiting another cycle.
as a 4th time taker i should not have assumed. I am sorry good sir. I'd say December. lock down the better score. The other cycle will always be there if the apps dont come out how you'd like.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Alexandros » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:33 pm

appind wrote:
Alexandros wrote:-0 and -0 on 78 LR. First one was really smooth, marked a few on the second one but didn't find it too bad. Hopefully this is a good sign. (maybe I know how logically reason again?)

Spending the rest of the day on RC and LG. (thank god)
holy, that's great. fresh test and if you have completed other 78 sections?
Haven't done the other sections of 78 yet. may or may not get to them today.

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:46 pm

Alexandros wrote:
appind wrote:
Alexandros wrote:-0 and -0 on 78 LR. First one was really smooth, marked a few on the second one but didn't find it too bad. Hopefully this is a good sign. (maybe I know how logically reason again?)

Spending the rest of the day on RC and LG. (thank god)
holy, that's great. fresh test and if you have completed other 78 sections?
Haven't done the other sections of 78 yet. may or may not get to them today.
Fuck that RC section.

Tho that's an impressive LR score. LR may be the one section I've actually gotten worse on.

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Post by appind » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:51 pm

Is it worse to stress thinking about LSAT or have a persistent job-related stress that constantly diverts one from thinking about LSAT?

i'd prefer worrying about and thinking about lsat.

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:52 pm

SweetTort wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
appind wrote:
Alexandros wrote:-0 and -0 on 78 LR. First one was really smooth, marked a few on the second one but didn't find it too bad. Hopefully this is a good sign. (maybe I know how logically reason again?)

Spending the rest of the day on RC and LG. (thank god)
holy, that's great. fresh test and if you have completed other 78 sections?
Haven't done the other sections of 78 yet. may or may not get to them today.
Fuck that RC section.

Tho that's an impressive LR score. LR may be the one section I've actually gotten worse on.
So I've heard. I've been putting it off.... :?

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Post by studyingeveryday » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:11 pm

thatlawlkid wrote:
studyingeveryday wrote:
thatlawlkid wrote:
studyingeveryday wrote:Went from 167 on PT77 two days ago to 162 on PT78 today. :oops:

Just gonna review, try not to think about it, and rest. I've reached my target score (166) a few times while PTing, but I still have this nervous feeling wondering if I should just wait until December, but I really don't want to wait that long to apply and continue to study for this test (this week is going to be my third time taking it).
No reason you can't just go for both. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
I can't do both this week and December because this week will be my third time. I think I would just apply with the numbers I have at that point instead of waiting another cycle.
as a 4th time taker i should not have assumed. I am sorry good sir. I'd say December. lock down the better score. The other cycle will always be there if the apps dont come out how you'd like.
I wish I had a better reason than just saying that I really, really don't want to study for this test again, man. It's my third time going through all the material and I'm pretty tired of it. I think I'd rather accept not going to a T14 than facing this test again. As I say that though I also know the payoff of waiting and maybe getting a chance for T14 would be much greater. Aghhh. I have gotten around my target a few times so maybe I should just take and hope for the best? But then...

Also, I've never done this badly on RC before, so maybe it's just burnout from studying all day yesterday?

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Post by bearedman8 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:27 pm

Extremely happy. Took my last 2 practice tests today back to back.

PT75 (first test): 174/-6 (-5 would've been a 176)

LR1: -2
LR2: -1
LG: -1 (arrgghhh misbubbled from testbook to answer sheet)
RC: -2

PT78 (second test): 178/-3

LR1: -1
LG: -1
LR2: -0
RC: -1

Absolutely shocked that I went -1 on PT78 RC. I spent the first 22 minutes on passages 2+3 (I always do comparative last) then basically just went with my gut on all the questions in the science passage to finish on time. Finished PT78 LR2 in 22 minutes. Finished both LG sections in ~28 minutes so VERY upset that I missed a question on both of them.

Was gonna take PT77 tomorrow but I think I'm happy calling it good and just leaving that as unexhausted. I'm done for today. I've cut out all of the questions I've missed in the past two months from drilling LR. Gonna do all of those tomorrow + drill maybe 5-10 RC passages and 5-10 games. Friday I'm just gonna do a couple hours of games and call it good.

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:34 pm

Just did an LG section, -1 in 22 minutes.

Y'all are scaring me with these crazy high scores. I feel like I peaked too early.

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Post by Instrumental » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:36 pm

Going against advice I did PT77 today after having a nice skate session in the morning. Still did about the same. The last question of each RC passage always seems to be a bit tough. I missed every one D: I surprisingly got all the questions in game 3 correct even though I felt I only had a vague idea of what I was doing. lmao.

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LR: -7
AR: -2
RC: -6
Score: 167

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