The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:10 pm

JackelJ wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Also, jackel is quickly becoming one of my favorite substantive posters in this forum. Good job.
lol its probably because I'm on TLS too much. I need to get off and study

ur turning into me... tho I posted a bunch of random stuff more often... and Rigo never favored me... you go gurl

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:34 pm

JackelJ wrote:I'm confused. Do you all BR after you drill? I always do untimed drilling and do the whole know why one AC is correct and the others are wrong thing so I don't see any point in BRing, I just review any I got wrong. I guess BR can help with timed drilling, but I thought the point of drilling was to not worry about time

While I don't time my drilling, I also don't take as much time as needed to be 100% on a question when answering the questions. I work through the questions as I would while taking the test, but relaxed obviously. If a question gives me trouble I select what I believe to be TCR and circle the question to come back to and BR. During BR I'll take as much time as needed to be 100% on why one AC is correct and why the others are incorrect. It sounds like we're doing the same thing at different stages of a drill.

nhberk · Post by **nhberk** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:55 pm

Hey everyone!

Guess i should probably join this thread considering a 12 point jump by the February LSAT seems like an unlikely feat...

I graduated from UG this past august and began studying in October after the September LSAT... My diagnostic was 152, i took a blueprint course, did all the homework they gave and i was still only averaging around 153-154 around the end of the course. So i postponed the December LSAT and have been studying since, adding in blind review (which is seriously... just amazing), slowly getting my accuracy higher. Most recent score was a 158 timed and 174 on BR.

I'm not working or doing anything else except studying for the LSAT around 6-8 hours a day. My current study plan involves taking around 3-4 practice tests a week and BR-ing it the next day. Goal is to get a 170 on the June exam so i still have a long journey ahead...

I'm curious, has anyone else had dreams of stained glass windows and mauve dinosaurs... or is it just me?

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:08 pm

nhberk wrote:Hey everyone!

Guess i should probably join this thread considering a 12 point jump by the February LSAT seems like an unlikely feat...

I graduated from UG this past august and began studying in October after the September LSAT... My diagnostic was 152, i took a blueprint course, did all the homework they gave and i was still only averaging around 153-154 around the end of the course. So i postponed the December LSAT and have been studying since, adding in blind review (which is seriously... just amazing), slowly getting my accuracy higher. Most recent score was a 158 timed and 174 on BR.

I'm not working or doing anything else except studying for the LSAT around 6-8 hours a day. My current study plan involves taking around 3-4 practice tests a week and BR-ing it the next day. Goal is to get a 170 on the June exam so i still have a long journey ahead...

I'm curious, has anyone else had dreams of stained glass windows and mauve dinosaurs... or is it just me?

At this point in your prep, I recommend that you work on your fundamentals through drilling. Taking practice tests at this point is not the most effective way to increase your score. I got a similar score on my diagnostic (154) and have been working on the fundamentals for about a month. I plan on doing this for around another 1.5- 2 months before jumping into practice tests. Just my opinion though. Good luck!

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:40 pm

The Abyss wrote:
JackelJ wrote:I'm confused. Do you all BR after you drill? I always do untimed drilling and do the whole know why one AC is correct and the others are wrong thing so I don't see any point in BRing, I just review any I got wrong. I guess BR can help with timed drilling, but I thought the point of drilling was to not worry about time
While I don't time my drilling, I also don't take as much time as needed to be 100% on a question when answering the questions. I work through the questions as I would while taking the test, but relaxed obviously. If a question gives me trouble I select what I believe to be TCR and circle the question to come back to and BR. During BR I'll take as much time as needed to be 100% on why one AC is correct and why the others are incorrect. It sounds like we're doing the same thing at different stages of a drill.

Okay, I understand. It just seems slightly redundant to me so I only go through the problems once to be efficient but if it works for you then thats great!

eta: can someone follow me around all day and yell at me when I do anything other than study? I've been so lazy this week.

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:17 pm

JackelJ wrote:
The Abyss wrote:
JackelJ wrote:I'm confused. Do you all BR after you drill? I always do untimed drilling and do the whole know why one AC is correct and the others are wrong thing so I don't see any point in BRing, I just review any I got wrong. I guess BR can help with timed drilling, but I thought the point of drilling was to not worry about time
While I don't time my drilling, I also don't take as much time as needed to be 100% on a question when answering the questions. I work through the questions as I would while taking the test, but relaxed obviously. If a question gives me trouble I select what I believe to be TCR and circle the question to come back to and BR. During BR I'll take as much time as needed to be 100% on why one AC is correct and why the others are incorrect. It sounds like we're doing the same thing at different stages of a drill.
Okay, I understand. It just seems slightly redundant to me so I only go through the problems once to be efficient but if it works for you then thats great!

eta: can someone follow me around all day and yell at me when I do anything other than study? I've been so lazy this week.

I think I'm going to try your method tonight on the SA questions. Greater efficiency is always welcome, especially with a 9 month old who's sick and won't sleep through the night. I'm running on about 2-4 hours of sleep a night here lately.

karmago · Post by **karmago** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:02 pm

179orBust wrote:Drilled 50 NA questions and got 45/50 correct. Almost all of my mistakes (4) came from the level 4 questions. Any advice for dealing with those?

Did you figure out how to deal with those? Because those are currently giving me a headache. I'm using the Manhattan forums to figure out the reasoning behind each answer, but some of these NA problems are tricky as hell.

TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:37 pm

pushed my schedule up a few days, started the trainer today and will take the diagnostic tomorrow. we'll see how rusty i am since studying in an unorganized fashion a few years ago.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:33 am

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TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:45 am

gamerish wrote:Just called my first "split into a bunch of different scenarios that show every possibility before you even get to the questions" game correctly and got -0 on it! I didn't time myself but I know I didn't do it within time since I started diagramming it as a triple layer sequencing game and then decided I didn't like that and made 4 separate double layer sequencing splits with subsets (for the locations, it was game 2 on PT36) instead of a third row since I managed to figure out the locations for each variable with inferences, but it's still progress.

congrats on the progress!

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:47 am

How can you tell if you're making progress when drilling games? I've made large time improvements, but how do I know that I'm not just subconsciously remembering things? I'm afraid I'm wasting my time, but I don't want to waste fresh games either.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:00 am

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RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:20 am

How many PTs are you using for LG drilling? I've only used the first 30 because I want to save the rest for full PTs. I've gone through the linear games 3 times in the last 5 weeks and now I'm making my second pass through the grouping games.

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:26 am

Good job GYG! Keep it up.

I usually just tell my progress when I PT because that's typically a fresh set of games, or at least a set I haven't seen in 5 months and don't remember. But there's also 280+ games, and while I do remember some names, I don't remember any specific inferences. I should do the mauve dino game again, I don't remember what the one major inference to that was.

And I have used probably all the games from PT 1-50something so far

eta: was that the radio talk show callers game? I did 3 tiers for that one, so you could have done it either way. Thats a good one to do splits on, so good call

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:34 am

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vivianngo · Post by **vivianngo** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:15 am

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=675

Can we please revive this forum? (for those who have already taken a LSAT)

JazzyMac · Post by **JazzyMac** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:25 am

gamerish wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:How many PTs are you using for LG drilling? I've only used the first 30 because I want to save the rest for full PTs. I've gone through the linear games 3 times in the last 5 weeks and now I'm making my second pass through the grouping games.
I didn't make any changes to the Cambridge bundle so the first 39 iirc. I also don't do a ton of games at once because it takes me so long to do them and I spend a lot of time reviewing them. I did 7 today and that's a lot for me (took over 4 hours).

I thought it was only me taking so long to do games. After a second round of going through some games (basic/advanced linear), I hit early burnout so I put down the LG Bible and will pick up the Trainer again before merging into the LR Bible. My goal before this week is over (it's already almost over) is to start drilling on Logic Reasoning. I'm not certain why, but I feel I can/will do better on this than the games.

jayashae · Post by **jayashae** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:17 am

I plan on taking the June exam!

so I guess I'll post here, haha. Anyone in the Philly area?

Bigfish41 · Post by **Bigfish41** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:06 pm

I love how the OP was reduced down to "just live by the day" (of course, the day revolves only around the LSAT) motto haha

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:58 pm

Bigfish41 wrote:I love how the OP was reduced down to "just live by the day" (of course, the day revolves only around the LSAT) motto haha

RZ5646 wrote:edit: Elaborate, long-term plans don't work. Start studying immediately and just see what each day brings.

I think it's about time (now that it's very reasonable for people to start/have started studying) for a real OP... get typing

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:23 pm

Smallville wrote:
Bigfish41 wrote:I love how the OP was reduced down to "just live by the day" (of course, the day revolves only around the LSAT) motto haha

RZ5646 wrote:edit: Elaborate, long-term plans don't work. Start studying immediately and just see what each day brings.
I think it's about time (now that it's very reasonable for people to start/have started studying) for a real OP... get typing

Yes. I love when the blind lead the blind.

NL2424 · Post by **NL2424** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:25 pm

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:26 pm

Dirigo wrote:
Smallville wrote:
Bigfish41 wrote:I love how the OP was reduced down to "just live by the day" (of course, the day revolves only around the LSAT) motto haha

RZ5646 wrote:edit: Elaborate, long-term plans don't work. Start studying immediately and just see what each day brings.
I think it's about time (now that it's very reasonable for people to start/have started studying) for a real OP... get typing
Yes. I love when the blind lead the blind.

Rigo, be the new OP... I'm sure you're going through OP withdrawal by now

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:27 pm

zacboro wrote:It's like ~~all~~ few of you June takers are using this as a study thread and the feb thread as a lounge... No hate intended, just an observation

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:33 pm

zacboro wrote:It's like all of you June takers are using this as a study thread and the feb thread as a lounge... No hate intended, just an observation

Thanks for pointing this out.