The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[galeatus]

healthful moderate wine consumption. D:

pun intended with the moderate wine consumption RC passage??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

that passage had a big impact on my life, okay.

respek

I was halfway through that RC when the only thing that I could think about was "fuck I need a drink"

NEVER, LSAC, NEVER mention the following things in an RC passage:
- Alcohol
- BBQ Ribs
- Social Life

[Mikey]

Idk what to do to make my RC timing faster. I spent about 4-4 1/2 mins on the passage (but I understand everything), and if I finish the passage in 3 1/2 mins I tend to go back and forth a lot, but I always end up finishing a passage and its questions in 9-10 mins. I can't figure out why, I try to move fast in the questions but that's no help

[galeatus]

Idk what to do to make my RC timing faster. I spent about 4-4 1/2 mins on the passage (but I understand everything), and if I finish the passage in 3 1/2 mins I tend to go back and forth a lot, but I always end up finishing a passage and its questions in 9-10 mins. I can't figure out why, I try to move fast in the questions but that's no help

I tend to spend about 2 mins-ish on the passage itself, and not try to memorise anything from the text but merely get the structure of the argument and what each sentence does (conclusion/subsidiary conclusion/support) and where everything is - so the reading process is a bit weird (completely different from how I'd read a book), where I read the text like an LR question stem, skimming through everything until I find sentences that are core to the argument, then try and figure out the relationship between them and the sentences around them. If there is a block of text that starts with "for example..." or some sort of historical account I pretty much just ignore it/go through it extremely quickly.

I mean, if you kinda need to check the AC with the text anyway to make sure that the answer is correct, I feel that there's not much point in memorising any details from the text in the first place, might as well just know where everything is.

[20170322]

New strategy: I've decided to take a PT this Saturday, then take an entire week off, then take the real thing.

[Instrumental]

Idk what to do to make my RC timing faster. I spent about 4-4 1/2 mins on the passage (but I understand everything), and if I finish the passage in 3 1/2 mins I tend to go back and forth a lot, but I always end up finishing a passage and its questions in 9-10 mins. I can't figure out why, I try to move fast in the questions but that's no help

I make sure only to go back and double check the passage after I've read through all the answer choices. A lot of times the answer will jump out and then if you really need to, you can quickly verify it. I used to go through the passage in about 2.5-2.75 minutes, but I've lately been going to 3-3.25 minutes and I make a point to absorb the as much of the passage focusing on the most important aspects and only go back to re-read if I don't remember a specific detail of the question or none of the answer choices seem good. A lot of advice I've seen says don't try to memorize, go back and re-read, but my score has improved doing just the opposite. Relying on re-reading tanks my timing so I do it sparingly.

New strategy: I've decided to take a PT this Saturday, then take an entire week off, then take the real thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNdw4DaUM8

[34iplaw]

Any recommendations for exemplar games? I'm trying to think of two to three games to do (not overly challenging ones necessarily) prior to the LSAT. I'm thinking that I would have done the F_ _ + R & O _ + S game, but, to be honest, I think it is probably a bit too memorized at this point.

[Mikey]

Chips from the vending machine.

My lunch and dinner on days that I'm in school for more than 10 hours.

Chips, you've always been there for me <3

[Dodocogon]

Just printed my admissions ticket on an 11x17 piece of paper (blown up, of course) as I forgot that last thing I was printing at work was some posters for an event - should I bring that in? The picture is bigger so maybe it'll make me easier to recognize...

[Dodocogon]

healthful moderate wine consumption. D:

pun intended with the moderate wine consumption RC passage??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

that passage had a big impact on my life, okay.

respek

I was halfway through that RC when the only thing that I could think about was "fuck I need a drink"

NEVER, LSAC, NEVER mention the following things in an RC passage:
- Alcohol
- BBQ Ribs
- Social Life

I'm thinking of some comparative passages arguing which type of barbecue is best. Would be torture if it was after the break...

Side note; Kansas City BBQ is best BBQ

[Shemp]

Just saw this on my facebook feed and thought, "Huh, I didn't know you were taking the LSAT."

[appind]

Anyone feel that the LR's in the 70s have been a bit different than the ones in the 60s. They ask the same types of questions, but there is something just off about them. I think it's in the answer choices which seem a bit more troubling to filter out the wrong questions. My missed questions in them have gone up substantially and it doesn't seem like my approach is any different. Only done 70-72 so far though.

I think the way they word question stems are a bit different. There were questions where I wasn't sure if it was a Sufficient Assumption or a Strengthen question.

I find that the way they phrase the question stems makes it harder to grasp the argument core on first sight, also there are more traps in the question stem leading to corresponding trap ACs that punishes you quite harshly if you aren't careful when reading the stems.

Then again, I'm quite a careless readers so it might be just me.

70s lr is different. Since youve only done till 72 so far, try pt-73 LR and you can notice qs that are different than any prevoius ones.

[Alexandros]

Just saw this on my facebook feed and thought, "Huh, I didn't know you were taking the LSAT."

By "someone in need" I assume they mean a confused LSAT-taker who completely forgot to pack their gallon bag. What a thoughtful gesture.

[34iplaw]

Just saw this on my facebook feed and thought, "Huh, I didn't know you were taking the LSAT."

By "someone in need" I assume they mean a confused LSAT-taker who completely forgot to pack their gallon bag. What a thoughtful gesture.

With unsharpened pencils and a mechanical pencil sharpener...WITH THE BLADE REMOVED.

[Shemp]

Spare a thought for those poor souls who have a medical condition that makes it necessary to change into fresh socks at the break, and pray that you don't get seated next to one of them.

[tskela]

apparently i can't math. the only LR questions I'm missing these days are those where the flaw in argument has something to do with proportions, percentage, average, profit, etc. ugh. i have such a hard time translating that stuff

[mudiverse]

A week before the test I just received the worst score I have had in the past 6 months on PT 75.

LR -6
LG -3 (all from the last game)
RC -8 (why god?)
for an astounding 165.

I haven't scored this low since 2015 and my average is 171. Not sure what happened since I did feel alright throughout the test, although I did feel that the RC was pretty difficult. I hope this isn't indicative of what's to come. Guess all I can do is BR it and try and figure it out.

[proteinshake]

apparently i can't math. the only LR questions I'm missing these days are those where the flaw in argument has something to do with proportions, percentage, average, profit, etc. ugh. i have such a hard time translating that stuff

have you done PT 77?

[34iplaw]

A week before the test I just received the worst score I have had in the past 6 months on PT 75.

LR -6
LG -3 (all from the last game)
RC -8 (why god?)
for an astounding 165.

I haven't scored this low since 2015 and my average is 171. Not sure what happened since I did feel alright throughout the test, although I did feel that the RC was pretty difficult. I hope this isn't indicative of what's to come. Guess all I can do is BR it and try and figure it out.

It happens, and it won't be.



Shake it off!

Fairly tired today, so I'm taking it easy.

[tskela]

apparently i can't math. the only LR questions I'm missing these days are those where the flaw in argument has something to do with proportions, percentage, average, profit, etc. ugh. i have such a hard time translating that stuff

have you done PT 77?

Yep, didn't have too many issues with it.

Missed 18 and 19 on PT 69 LR 2 though due to dumb misapplications of the words "profit" and "average."

[+] Spoiler

For 19: Until I watched dave hall's explanation, I didn't get that calculating the average payoff per lottery ticket/insurance policy would have to take into account the likelihood of winning the grand prize/receiving a settlement. grrrrr

[proteinshake]

apparently i can't math. the only LR questions I'm missing these days are those where the flaw in argument has something to do with proportions, percentage, average, profit, etc. ugh. i have such a hard time translating that stuff

have you done PT 77?

Yep, didn't have too many issues with it.

Missed 18 and 19 on PT 69 LR 2 though due to dumb misapplications of the words "profit" and "average."

[+] Spoiler

For 19: Until I watched dave hall's explanation, I didn't get that calculating the average payoff per lottery ticket/insurance policy would have to take into account the likelihood of winning the grand prize/receiving a settlement. grrrrr

[+] Spoiler

the banjo questions was also kinda tough too!

[appind]

apparently i can't math. the only LR questions I'm missing these days are those where the flaw in argument has something to do with proportions, percentage, average, profit, etc. ugh. i have such a hard time translating that stuff

have you done PT 77?

protein, did you end up taking any fully fresh pts yet recently and how different are scores in them compared to retakes?

[proteinshake]

apparently i can't math. the only LR questions I'm missing these days are those where the flaw in argument has something to do with proportions, percentage, average, profit, etc. ugh. i have such a hard time translating that stuff

have you done PT 77?

protein, did you end up taking any fully fresh pts yet recently and how different are scores in them compared to retakes?

I did, but I think I took them while I was burnt out. my scores were 162 (idek), 167, 168. I figured I had to be burnt out cause I also took a non-fresh PT and got a 169 on that as well before taking a week off. I feel like I kinda wasted by fresh recent tests (except for when I take 78). the only other fresh ones I had were 40, 45, and 50 I took closer to the beginning of prep which were 170+

[Alexandros]

So LSAC says your first and last name must match exactly on your LSAT ticket and ID. What about middle name? my ID has my middle name, but my ticket doesn't.

[theothercat]

Just took my second to last PT.

PT 77
RC: -2
LR: -2
LG: -2
LR: -2
Score: 173

Not mad about it, but hoping I can do a little bit better on PT 78 tomorrow...and then hopefully have a slightly-better-than-usual test day next Saturday. Think I need to literally drill like 1000 flaw and must be true questions because those are definitely the types which are still giving me the most shit. Anyone got have any breakthrough experiences on those question types?

Also, that third LG was ridiculous. I figured it out and didn't let it freak me out too bad, but I'm disappointed I missed 2 on it. Def gonna redo that one a few times.

[appind]

apparently i can't math. the only LR questions I'm missing these days are those where the flaw in argument has something to do with proportions, percentage, average, profit, etc. ugh. i have such a hard time translating that stuff

have you done PT 77?

protein, did you end up taking any fully fresh pts yet recently and how different are scores in them compared to retakes?

I did, but I think I took them while I was burnt out. my scores were 162 (idek), 167, 168. I figured I had to be burnt out cause I also took a non-fresh PT and got a 169 on that as well before taking a week off. I feel like I kinda wasted by fresh recent tests (except for when I take 78). the only other fresh ones I had were 40, 45, and 50 I took closer to the beginning of prep which were 170+

I have similar concern about how representative is the one fresh test I took 73 for 169.

I have 78 remaining too and not sure what I'd do if I crash it.