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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:20 pm

schmelling wrote:My 3 months of prep went as follows:

Month 1: Heavy untimed drilling, one PT every two weeks
Month 2: untimed drilling, some timed-up drilling, one PT a week, use weekly PT to determine areas of focus
Month 3: 3 PT's a week, untimed drilling LR, timed-up drilling RC/LG, timed sections, focusing on weaknesses from most recent PT
Well I have over 4.5 months. Does that change anything in a major way?
schmelling wrote:I think you're gonna kill it this time around rigo.
Thanks schmelly. I really hope so. I know I have it in me so now it's time to put in the work and live up to my full potential.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:38 pm

Alright thanks so much Schmelly.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Shakawkaw » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:56 pm

schmelling wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
schmelling wrote:My 3 months of prep went as follows:

Month 1: Heavy untimed drilling, one PT every two weeks
Month 2: untimed drilling, some timed-up drilling, one PT a week, use weekly PT to determine areas of focus
Month 3: 3 PT's a week, untimed drilling LR, timed-up drilling RC/LG, timed sections, focusing on weaknesses from most recent PT
Well I have over 4.5 months. Does that change anything in a major way?
schmelling wrote:I think you're gonna kill it this time around rigo.
Thanks schmelly. I really hope so. I know I have it in me so now it's time to put in the work and live up to my full potential.
add half the extra time to month 1 and half to month 2. Use that extra time to become a logic machine.

I would leave month 3 the way it is, I don't think there would be much benefit to extending that.
Schmell, did 3 PTs a week lead to burn out? I was doing this first time around, and then lowered it to 2 PTs. I'm trying to find that magic number. Since I'm working FT now, I'll probably only be able to PT on the weekend.

I also don't have any fresh PTs left. :oops:

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by RZ5646 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:02 pm

What's the lowest score you guys wouldn't retake?

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

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RZ5646 wrote:What's the lowest score you guys wouldn't retake?
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6&t=242174
I said 172.

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Post by Shakawkaw » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:19 pm

schmelling wrote: I can't really speak to burn out. I only took like 2 days off in all my prep. Swearing off alcohol and getting enough helped a lot. During that last month I would sometimes take a lighter day on the ones between PTs though.

I would say 2 should be the minimum per week in that last month, with extra timed sections dispersed the point of that final phase is to get comfortable in test conditions so if you can't pt during the week, nightly timed sections is the next best thing.
Thanks for the advice, Schmell. How would you address the lack of fresh PTs?

Also over the course of three months, how many hours per week were you studying?

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:27 pm

JazzyMac wrote:Checking in.
Welcome Jazzy. Please stick around so I can frequently type "Jazzy."

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Post by JackelJ » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:30 pm

gamerish wrote: My lack of split-calling ability is probably due to the fact that I don't usually spend a really long time making deductions because I feel so pressed for time. With this particular game it was because I completely confused the game type and turned a basic ordering game into a double layer sequencing game, realized my mistake halfway through, went back and re-diagrammed and felt so rushed I didn't stick around to make any further inferences (which caused me to miss the split that wound up giving you 4 completely finished diagrams that would've made question answering extremely fast). But it's still not the first time I've done this; I've come across several of those kinds of games where making one key inference essentially allows you to diagram every single possible combination through various splits before even getting to a question. I have the hardest time with those games before seeing what they are in review (after which I can see the process very clearly and they seem super easy).
Change what is bolded above. You are still early in your prep, don't worry about timing on LG at all. When you drill games take your time. Stare at the setup after you write down the rules and make every single inference you can. I don't care if it takes you 20 minutes per game to make the inferences yourself, do it. You are never going to get better if you rush through the inferences and then passively watch the video afterwards to understand everything. You will learn so much more when you make the inferences yourself and are not told them. If you are stuck go through every game piece and ask yourself which spots it can go where, how the rules interact with each other, and if its a conditional how it affects the other pieces. If you go on to the rules without having a firm grasp on how the game can play out and a general idea of where pieces can go then you need to slow down and look at the rules again.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:33 pm

Yes. Don't be too fixated on timing at this point, gamerish. Sure it's nice to note just so you can one day see just how far you've come, but if it's preventing you from learning how to correctly tackle games, them it's a disservice.

Also, jackel is quickly becoming one of my favorite substantive posters in this forum. Good job.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:35 pm

Dirigo wrote:Also, jackel is quickly becoming one of my favorite substantive posters in this forum. Good job.
lol its probably because I'm on TLS too much. I need to get off and study

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by JazzyMac » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:49 pm

Dirigo wrote:
JazzyMac wrote:Checking in.
Welcome Jazzy. Please stick around so I can frequently type "Jazzy."
I shall. :lol:

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by RZ5646 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:20 am

Guys, I'm crushed. After all this drilling, I did a game I hadn't seen before and got 5/7 10:29. I feel awful and think I'm just memorizing them. :'(

ETA: At least JY said it was very difficult :/

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Shakawkaw » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:16 am

schmelling wrote:The lack of fresh PTs is what it is. Dp your best with what you have. Just make sure you aren't doing the tests from memory. Keep yourself engaged with the test material. This is most difficult on RC where you've read it before, but try to read it actively.

In the beginning I was studying 20-30 hours weekly, by the end anywhere from 30-50 depending on the week. I always advocate being in LSAT mode at least 20 hours a week.
I'm scared, Schmell. :(

Thanks for your insight, I really appreciate it. I'll be posting on my progress once I start studying. I think. Or I'll become a recluse and crawl into my beta hole until I hit my goal score. :cry:

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by 179orBust » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:05 am

Drilled 50 NA questions and got 45/50 correct. Almost all of my mistakes (4) came from the level 4 questions. Any advice for dealing with those?

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by JazzyMac » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:50 am

179orBust wrote:Drilled 50 NA questions and got 45/50 correct. Almost all of my mistakes (4) came from the level 4 questions. Any advice for dealing with those?
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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:59 am

JazzyMac wrote:
179orBust wrote:Drilled 50 NA questions and got 45/50 correct. Almost all of my mistakes (4) came from the level 4 questions. Any advice for dealing with those?
What's NA?
Necessary Assumption questions. Question stem asks for something the argument depends on

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by The Abyss » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:42 am

The plan for today is to drill 20-30 SA questions and a 4-5 RC passages, and BR it all.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:06 am

I'm confused. Do you all BR after you drill? I always do untimed drilling and do the whole know why one AC is correct and the others are wrong thing so I don't see any point in BRing, I just review any I got wrong. I guess BR can help with timed drilling, but I thought the point of drilling was to not worry about time

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by RZ5646 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:30 am

Jackal it sounds like you BR every question then.

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