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spark up.
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apply to law school.
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vegas.
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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by PhiladelphiaCollins » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:31 pm

TheMikey wrote:http://www.velocitylsat.com/faq/what-sh ... -have-left

thought this was kind of helpful for anyone wanting some minor LR Q type tips
I'm going through this in depth right now, and it's amazing, thanks! I'm sitting at the 165 mark right now, which means I'm getting about 5 or 6 wrong per LR sections. My goal is to get it to below -4 a piece on test day.

As an aside, one thing I've found myself doing on my last few tests that I'm going to drill out of me this week is reading half the stim, jumping to the question stem and jumping back to the stim. The amount of time I've wasted doing this is ridiculous. I think it's just jitters, but I feel if I eliminate this I can get to that -4 mark.

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:58 pm

SweetTort wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
SweetTort wrote:Tbh I'm really excited about the option of spending 3 more years in dorms if i go to Harvard.
aren't the on-campus options for law students just apartments?? I hate dorms.

The Gropius complex seems dorm-ish, tho idk if they meet the technical definition of dorms.

Also, they have RA jobs, so that could cut 18k off my debt.
I feel like going back to dorms after being in apartment for 4 or so years would feel weird af. Though job to cut off the debt would be a huge plus.

I'm currently an RA, so I wouldn't mind a few more years of it.
I always thought about doing it, but I never thought I would have the patience to do the decorating and stuff. I assume the the law student "on-campus" living/Dorms are significantly nicer than the undergrads. Thats the case for my current grad b-school program.. Don't mind it at all. Although, sometimes I miss living with my best-friends in a sweet apartment like we did UG, but give a little - get a little. Very happy to be here and I would sleep in a cott in the harvard library just to be able to go there lol

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Rupert Pupkin » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:36 pm

PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:
TheMikey wrote:http://www.velocitylsat.com/faq/what-sh ... -have-left

thought this was kind of helpful for anyone wanting some minor LR Q type tips
I'm going through this in depth right now, and it's amazing, thanks! I'm sitting at the 165 mark right now, which means I'm getting about 5 or 6 wrong per LR sections. My goal is to get it to below -4 a piece on test day.

As an aside, one thing I've found myself doing on my last few tests that I'm going to drill out of me this week is reading half the stim, jumping to the question stem and jumping back to the stim. The amount of time I've wasted doing this is ridiculous. I think it's just jitters, but I feel if I eliminate this I can get to that -4 mark.
Thats very doable! You will get it. Yea... I def recommend just reading through the stimulus first carefully and if you have to re-read again more carefully thats even better and wastes less time probably. But the 1/2 1/2 prob isn't doing you much good.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Alexandros » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:43 pm

Well, my math class in my TC, so I'll be checking out my new TC tomorrow. :P

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:55 pm

Alexandros wrote:Well, my math class in my TC, so I'll be checking out my new TC tomorrow. :P
Ooooo thats nice...Visualize the battleground

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:02 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Well, my math class in my TC, so I'll be checking out my new TC tomorrow. :P
Ooooo thats nice...Visualize the battleground
I'm just praying it won't actually be in the lecture hall :P

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Post by Instrumental » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:42 pm

Man, only seven more PTs between now and test day. Get hyped.

I documented all the missed LR questions I've had in the past three months of studying and I'm going to start drilling them tomorrow.

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Post by Alexandros » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:50 pm

Should I apply to my school's prelaw journal.
(Although, on second thought, having my entire evening filled with meetings is getting a bit tiring. Idk maybe I should chill out on the softs.)

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:23 pm

Alexandros wrote:Should I apply to my school's prelaw journal.
(Although, on second thought, having my entire evening filled with meetings is getting a bit tiring. Idk maybe I should chill out on the softs.)
Whats the cost v benefit? I would say if you already have ample extra-curriculars and really need to focus on GPA--opt not to join. But if the goal is to learn something beyond just adding it to your resume and you can leverage connections, or have a topic to speak/write about in your apps than I might do it.

Up to you though..I don't know your individual situation. I will say don't take on too much on your plate

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Post by appind » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:38 pm

tskela wrote:FINALLY got my first -1 and -0 in RC but am unsure how representative they are of the newer RC (PTs 58 + 59)

Any thoughts? cannot tell if getting better or tests getting easier since i'm working backwards...
i think some late 50s RC is tough and representative of recent tests. iirc those contain hard passages such as chinese talk stories and noguchi ones.

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Post by galeatus » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:14 am

Drilled about 15 RC passages this morning, feeling so much more confident.

Drilling all the LR questions from PT72 and 73 later today, probably throwing in some NA drill as well as I'm still making stupid mistakes on them.

Can't believe that just two weeks later we'll be banging on LSAC's door 24/7 begging for our scores, aaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhh

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Post by Instrumental » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:16 am

I may develop an ulcer or eight waiting for test scores.

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Post by Mikey » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:37 am

Instrumental wrote:I may develop an ulcer or eight waiting for test scores.
It only starts to haunt you a few days before the "official" release date.

Literally had a nightmare the night after the LSAT and the days following up to when scores released

But that's cause I'm a little bitch, so

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Alexandros » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:50 am

jagerbom79 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:Should I apply to my school's prelaw journal.
(Although, on second thought, having my entire evening filled with meetings is getting a bit tiring. Idk maybe I should chill out on the softs.)
Whats the cost v benefit? I would say if you already have ample extra-curriculars and really need to focus on GPA--opt not to join. But if the goal is to learn something beyond just adding it to your resume and you can leverage connections, or have a topic to speak/write about in your apps than I might do it.

Up to you though..I don't know your individual situation. I will say don't take on too much on your plate
Mmm, that's a good way to look at it. I'll think about some more.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Mikey » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:53 am

Am I the only one that thinks some of the smaller stimulus LR questions are a lot more complex and harder than the "normal" or longer length stims?

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Post by proteinshake » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:56 am

TheMikey wrote:Am I the only one that thinks some of the smaller stimulus LR questions are a lot more complex and harder than the "normal" or longer length stims?
those are easy for me but only because I know they tend to be MBT or RRE questions so I focus on the stimulus and make sure I understand it 100% before moving to the questions stem and answers. they'll be tough if you don't spend enough time in the stimulus.

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Post by Mikey » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:26 am

proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Am I the only one that thinks some of the smaller stimulus LR questions are a lot more complex and harder than the "normal" or longer length stims?
those are easy for me but only because I know they tend to be MBT or RRE questions so I focus on the stimulus and make sure I understand it 100% before moving to the questions stem and answers. they'll be tough if you don't spend enough time in the stimulus.
Yeah I suppose I'm looking at it in a different light. To me some of the paradox/rre small questions sometimes have answers that I would have never thought of. Idk I might just be the only one lol

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by galeatus » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:13 am

TheMikey wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Am I the only one that thinks some of the smaller stimulus LR questions are a lot more complex and harder than the "normal" or longer length stims?
those are easy for me but only because I know they tend to be MBT or RRE questions so I focus on the stimulus and make sure I understand it 100% before moving to the questions stem and answers. they'll be tough if you don't spend enough time in the stimulus.
Yeah I suppose I'm looking at it in a different light. To me some of the paradox/rre small questions sometimes have answers that I would have never thought of. Idk I might just be the only one lol
I never try to pre-phrase RRE questions anyway, so the small RREs don't feel too different from the long ones.

Some of the shorter MBTs do involve some pretty complex conditional logic though, and takes me a while to get my head around it.

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Post by proteinshake » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:17 am

galeatus wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Am I the only one that thinks some of the smaller stimulus LR questions are a lot more complex and harder than the "normal" or longer length stims?
those are easy for me but only because I know they tend to be MBT or RRE questions so I focus on the stimulus and make sure I understand it 100% before moving to the questions stem and answers. they'll be tough if you don't spend enough time in the stimulus.
Yeah I suppose I'm looking at it in a different light. To me some of the paradox/rre small questions sometimes have answers that I would have never thought of. Idk I might just be the only one lol
I never try to pre-phrase RRE questions anyway, so the small RREs don't feel too different from the long ones.

Some of the shorter MBTs do involve some pretty complex conditional logic though, and takes me a while to get my head around it.
I think one super useful thing on MBT is to expect the answer to connect the two conditions that are furthest away (logically) from each other.

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proteinshake wrote:
galeatus wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
proteinshake wrote:
TheMikey wrote:Am I the only one that thinks some of the smaller stimulus LR questions are a lot more complex and harder than the "normal" or longer length stims?
those are easy for me but only because I know they tend to be MBT or RRE questions so I focus on the stimulus and make sure I understand it 100% before moving to the questions stem and answers. they'll be tough if you don't spend enough time in the stimulus.
Yeah I suppose I'm looking at it in a different light. To me some of the paradox/rre small questions sometimes have answers that I would have never thought of. Idk I might just be the only one lol
I never try to pre-phrase RRE questions anyway, so the small RREs don't feel too different from the long ones.

Some of the shorter MBTs do involve some pretty complex conditional logic though, and takes me a while to get my head around it.
I think one super useful thing on MBT is to expect the answer to connect the two conditions that are furthest away (logically) from each other.
I always try to do that! I always try to pre-phrase even the hardest MBT questions with the farthest away logical connections

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Post by Mikey » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:00 am

xolailaxo wrote:
PhiladelphiaCollins wrote:
TheMikey wrote:http://www.velocitylsat.com/faq/what-sh ... -have-left

thought this was kind of helpful for anyone wanting some minor LR Q type tips
I'm going through this in depth right now, and it's amazing, thanks! I'm sitting at the 165 mark right now, which means I'm getting about 5 or 6 wrong per LR sections. My goal is to get it to below -4 a piece on test day.

As an aside, one thing I've found myself doing on my last few tests that I'm going to drill out of me this week is reading half the stim, jumping to the question stem and jumping back to the stim. The amount of time I've wasted doing this is ridiculous. I think it's just jitters, but I feel if I eliminate this I can get to that -4 mark.
Found this to be really helpful! +1
I'm glad it could help some of you at least! :D

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Post by Alexandros » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:24 am

-4 on games from 76, all from misreading a rule on the third game. Holy shit. That's terrifying.
I knew I was fucking something up because I kept getting two answers that would work, but I couldn't figure out what.

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Post by 20170322 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:42 am

Alexandros wrote:-4 on games from 76, all from misreading a rule on the third game. Holy shit. That's terrifying.
I knew I was fucking something up because I kept getting two answers that would work, but I couldn't figure out what.

Good rule I picked up. Spend an extra 30 seconds after you've finished writing your LG rules to double check and make sure you wrote them down correctly. It's a great insurance policy to have.

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