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[Deardevil]

Might just have to take it in Dec rather than Sept

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[Barack O'Drama]

Might just have to take it in Dec rather than Sept

I think that may be a great choice!

I made the switch to December and feel a lot more hopeful. I don't think there are many situations in which studying longer is going to hurt you.

[usaorbust]

Y'all giving me anxiety with how active this thread is getting, I guess Dec. is right around the corner though.

[PrezRand]

Might just have to take it in Dec rather than Sept

I think that may be a great choice!

I made the switch to December and feel a lot more hopeful. I don't think there are many situations in which studying longer is going to hurt you.

My only concern is I may have to apply for the 2018 cycle instead. But, that does give me another semester for good grades. I guess it might not be too bad

[muscleboundlaw]

Hello!

Glad to join you guys. I just started studying two weeks ago for the December LSAT. I am following the plan in one of our guides from a 180 scorer. I do stick to a 12 to 15 hour weekly schedule. Right now, I finished one book that went over methods for all three sections. Next I am attacking the powerscore bible for each and workbooks. I have about 60 preptests and need to put my hands on the remaining ones ( I can't find them). I am not touching those yet, but expect to start taking them weekly in a month. Increasing the amounts I take per week slowly. I have read that some people retake tests. Is that a preferred strategy? I worry that I might recognize some questions. Especially since so many of the books I am using have practice tests in them.

Best of luck to all of you!

[muscleboundlaw]

Might just have to take it in Dec rather than Sept

I think that may be a great choice!

I made the switch to December and feel a lot more hopeful. I don't think there are many situations in which studying longer is going to hurt you.

My only concern is I may have to apply for the 2018 cycle instead. But, that does give me another semester for good grades. I guess it might not be too bad

Why? I thought December was a standard deadline test day? February is the one that is cutting it close, no?

I know September would give us early choice, but I don't see too much of a drag if I take the December test. I definitely plan on going to school next year so I need to time it perfectly.

[Barack O'Drama]

Might just have to take it in Dec rather than Sept

I think that may be a great choice!

I made the switch to December and feel a lot more hopeful. I don't think there are many situations in which studying longer is going to hurt you.

My only concern is I may have to apply for the 2018 cycle instead. But, that does give me another semester for good grades. I guess it might not be too bad

Why? I thought December was a standard deadline test day? February is the one that is cutting it close, no?

I know September would give us early choice, but I don't see too much of a drag if I take the December test. I definitely plan on going to school next year so I need to time it perfectly.

December isn't late, it just isn't early. You should be just fine. Most people will tell you that they performed right where their numbers suggested when they applied in January. Just make sure you apps are already submitted, and let the law school know to hold your app until your LSAT score is in.

The schools will begin processing your application when they receive it, and it will remain incomplete until they receive your score. But at least once they receive the score your application is ready to be forwarded to committee for review. If you wait until January to apply, you're delaying the processing of the application by at least a few weeks.

And the advantage if being early is nothing compared to a higher LSAT score. I'd much rather apply with a 170 in December than a 168 in September..

[muscleboundlaw]

Might just have to take it in Dec rather than Sept

I think that may be a great choice!

I made the switch to December and feel a lot more hopeful. I don't think there are many situations in which studying longer is going to hurt you.

My only concern is I may have to apply for the 2018 cycle instead. But, that does give me another semester for good grades. I guess it might not be too bad

December isn't late, it just isn't early. You should be just fine. Most people will tell you that they performed right where their numbers suggested when they applied in January. Just make sure you apps are already submitted, and let the law school know to hold your app until your LSAT score is in.

The schools will begin processing your application when they receive it, and it will remain incomplete until they receive your score. But at least once they receive the score your application is ready to be forwarded to committee for review. If you wait until January to apply, you're delaying the processing of the application by at least a few weeks.

And the advantage if being early is nothing compared to a higher LSAT score. I'd much rather apply with a 170 in December than a 168 in September..

Barack- I figured as much. I was thinking about September too. It is two months away at this point, but I really don't want to sell myself short. I know many people only need a month to three months to do really well, but I feel like this puts me in the best shape to succeed and get in to the school I want.

Still, if I am seeing average scoring in the range that makes me happy, I might bite the bullet and take the September test.

Thanks for clarifying by the way. I will have everything submitted and ready to go except for the LSAT itself.

Why? I thought December was a standard deadline test day? February is the one that is cutting it close, no?

I know September would give us early choice, but I don't see too much of a drag if I take the December test. I definitely plan on going to school next year so I need to time it perfectly.

[Deardevil]

Just make sure you apps are already submitted, and let the law school know to hold your app until your LSAT score is in.

This is most likely what I'm going with, but the problem I see with it is...
What if someone doesn't hit his/her target score?
I know many schools look at the highest,
but it's still offputting to submit an app to, let's say, Stanford, and end up with a 150...
Adcomm members be like, "is this candidate joking?"

[muscleboundlaw]

Just make sure you apps are already submitted, and let the law school know to hold your app until your LSAT score is in.

This is most likely what I'm going with, but the problem I see with it is...
What if someone doesn't hit his/her target score?
I know many schools look at the highest,
but it's still offputting to submit an app to, let's say, Stanford, and end up with a 150...
Adcomm members be like, "is this candidate joking?"

So schools are okay with multiple scores turned in?

I was wondering if they look at that negatively compared to one good score.

[Mikey]

So schools are okay with multiple scores turned in?

I was wondering if they look at that negatively compared to one good score.

The word around is that only Yale cares about multiple scores, other schools just care about your highest.

[muscleboundlaw]

So schools are okay with multiple scores turned in?

I was wondering if they look at that negatively compared to one good score.

The word around is that only Yale cares about multiple scores, other schools just care about your highest.

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/mu ... scores.cfm

Seems like you are right. LSAC reports all scores separately and on average.

The majority of law schools accept the highest score only.

Hmm. That gives me an interesting scenario. I can take September and take December if I am not comfortable with where I stand.

Not happy with the idea of average though. Unfortunately, I stupidly took the LSAT in 2013 without studying and got a 150 flat. It's a horrible score and one I wish I could erase. I was stupidly naive and over confident in my natural intelligence. Basically immature from an intellectual standpoint and unwilling to do the work to get a good score.

Now that I am taking this seriously, that feels like a stain on my LSAT past.

Anyway, it seems like it won't matter unless I apply to Yale (I won't) so I am feeling better about it.

[Barack O'Drama]

Just make sure you apps are already submitted, and let the law school know to hold your app until your LSAT score is in.

This is most likely what I'm going with, but the problem I see with it is...
What if someone doesn't hit his/her target score?
I know many schools look at the highest,
but it's still offputting to submit an app to, let's say, Stanford, and end up with a 150...
Adcomm members be like, "is this candidate joking?"

Yeah, that is a legitimate concern. I guess you have to be confident you are going to score well before applying. It certainly is a bit off putting, but it is still the best way to ensure the December take doesn't put you on the late side. My thought has always been to just sit out another cycle if I don't get HYS this time around.

Haha! Imagine a Stanford Adcomm seeing a 150. LOL. I am sure they get plenty every year honestly. People in real life I've talked to have a very skewed importance of GPA and LSAT.

So, I know a girl with a 3.9 and gunning for Columbia. She seems to think she will get in with an LSAT in the 150s because her GPA is so high.
Also, I guess when you are gunning for schools with LSAT medians in the 150s, your perception of a good score and a bad score change a bit.

Overall, I think we will be alright. We have 4.5 months and we aren't starting from the worse place either.

[Barack O'Drama]

So schools are okay with multiple scores turned in?

I was wondering if they look at that negatively compared to one good score.

The word around is that only Yale cares about multiple scores, other schools just care about your highest.

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/mu ... scores.cfm

Seems like you are right. LSAC reports all scores separately and on average.

The majority of law schools accept the highest score only.

Hmm. That gives me an interesting scenario. I can take September and take December if I am not comfortable with where I stand.

Not happy with the idea of average though. Unfortunately, I stupidly took the LSAT in 2013 without studying and got a 150 flat. It's a horrible score and one I wish I could erase. I was stupidly naive and over confident in my natural intelligence. Basically immature from an intellectual standpoint and unwilling to do the work to get a good score.

Now that I am taking this seriously, that feels like a stain on my LSAT past.

Anyway, it seems like it won't matter unless I apply to Yale (I won't) so I am feeling better about it.

Don't sweat it. Most people don't study much for the LSAT at all.
How ready do you think you will be by September? Don't sit for it if you just started studying. I think it more prudent to give yourself the extra time and sit for December if you aren't scoring consistently at your target score.

[muscleboundlaw]

http://www.top-law-schools.com/retaking-the-lsat.html

Here is a resource on how schools view retakes in case anyone else is interested:

Looks like I am safe with UT, Baylor, and SMU if I want to retake.

[muscleboundlaw]

So schools are okay with multiple scores turned in?

I was wondering if they look at that negatively compared to one good score.

The word around is that only Yale cares about multiple scores, other schools just care about your highest.

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/mu ... scores.cfm

Seems like you are right. LSAC reports all scores separately and on average.

The majority of law schools accept the highest score only.

Hmm. That gives me an interesting scenario. I can take September and take December if I am not comfortable with where I stand.

Not happy with the idea of average though. Unfortunately, I stupidly took the LSAT in 2013 without studying and got a 150 flat. It's a horrible score and one I wish I could erase. I was stupidly naive and over confident in my natural intelligence. Basically immature from an intellectual standpoint and unwilling to do the work to get a good score.

Now that I am taking this seriously, that feels like a stain on my LSAT past.

Anyway, it seems like it won't matter unless I apply to Yale (I won't) so I am feeling better about it.

Don't sweat it. Most people don't study much for the LSAT at all.
How ready do you think you will be by September? Don't sit for it if you just started studying. I think it more prudent to give yourself the extra time and sit for December if you aren't scoring consistently at your target score.

I started two weeks ago at the 150 cold and am practice testing at 158-160 (have taken 4 tests) since. I have a lot of work to do, but I do dedicate about 3 hours a day to it. I definitely lean with you here. If I feel uncomfortable, I won't take the plunge. I want to go in there knowing I did everything I could to crush it. No half-measures.

[Barack O'Drama]

So schools are okay with multiple scores turned in?

I was wondering if they look at that negatively compared to one good score.

The word around is that only Yale cares about multiple scores, other schools just care about your highest.

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/mu ... scores.cfm

Seems like you are right. LSAC reports all scores separately and on average.

The majority of law schools accept the highest score only.

Hmm. That gives me an interesting scenario. I can take September and take December if I am not comfortable with where I stand.

Not happy with the idea of average though. Unfortunately, I stupidly took the LSAT in 2013 without studying and got a 150 flat. It's a horrible score and one I wish I could erase. I was stupidly naive and over confident in my natural intelligence. Basically immature from an intellectual standpoint and unwilling to do the work to get a good score.

Now that I am taking this seriously, that feels like a stain on my LSAT past.

Anyway, it seems like it won't matter unless I apply to Yale (I won't) so I am feeling better about it.

Don't sweat it. Most people don't study much for the LSAT at all.
How ready do you think you will be by September? Don't sit for it if you just started studying. I think it more prudent to give yourself the extra time and sit for December if you aren't scoring consistently at your target score.

I started two weeks ago at the 150 cold and am practice testing at 158-160 (have taken 4 tests) since. I have a lot of work to do, but I do dedicate about 3 hours a day to it. I definitely lean with you here. If I feel uncomfortable, I won't take the plunge. I want to go in there knowing I did everything I could to crush it. No half-measures.

Going from a 150-160 in 4 tests worth of prep is great! That is a good sign, and should strengthen your faith that you got this.

We will crush it, no doubts about it

[PrezRand]

Might just have to take it in Dec rather than Sept

I think that may be a great choice!

I made the switch to December and feel a lot more hopeful. I don't think there are many situations in which studying longer is going to hurt you.

My only concern is I may have to apply for the 2018 cycle instead. But, that does give me another semester for good grades. I guess it might not be too bad

Why? I thought December was a standard deadline test day? February is the one that is cutting it close, no?

I know September would give us early choice, but I don't see too much of a drag if I take the December test. I definitely plan on going to school next year so I need to time it perfectly.

December isn't late, it just isn't early. You should be just fine. Most people will tell you that they performed right where their numbers suggested when they applied in January. Just make sure you apps are already submitted, and let the law school know to hold your app until your LSAT score is in.

The schools will begin processing your application when they receive it, and it will remain incomplete until they receive your score. But at least once they receive the score your application is ready to be forwarded to committee for review. If you wait until January to apply, you're delaying the processing of the application by at least a few weeks.

And the advantage if being early is nothing compared to a higher LSAT score. I'd much rather apply with a 170 in December than a 168 in September..

Ahh, ok. Did not know that December is the standard deadline day. Thanks guys!

[Walliums]

So schools are okay with multiple scores turned in?

I was wondering if they look at that negatively compared to one good score.

The word around is that only Yale cares about multiple scores, other schools just care about your highest.

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/mu ... scores.cfm

Seems like you are right. LSAC reports all scores separately and on average.

The majority of law schools accept the highest score only.

Hmm. That gives me an interesting scenario. I can take September and take December if I am not comfortable with where I stand.

Not happy with the idea of average though. Unfortunately, I stupidly took the LSAT in 2013 without studying and got a 150 flat. It's a horrible score and one I wish I could erase. I was stupidly naive and over confident in my natural intelligence. Basically immature from an intellectual standpoint and unwilling to do the work to get a good score.

Now that I am taking this seriously, that feels like a stain on my LSAT past.

Anyway, it seems like it won't matter unless I apply to Yale (I won't) so I am feeling better about it.

Don't sweat it. Most people don't study much for the LSAT at all.
How ready do you think you will be by September? Don't sit for it if you just started studying. I think it more prudent to give yourself the extra time and sit for December if you aren't scoring consistently at your target score.

I started two weeks ago at the 150 cold and am practice testing at 158-160 (have taken 4 tests) since. I have a lot of work to do, but I do dedicate about 3 hours a day to it. I definitely lean with you here. If I feel uncomfortable, I won't take the plunge. I want to go in there knowing I did everything I could to crush it. No half-measures.

Going from a 150-160 in 4 tests worth of prep is great! That is a good sign, and should strengthen your faith that you got this.

We will crush it, no doubts about it

Hear, hear!

[Walliums]

By the way, being able to check back on this thread and seeing so many new replies makes me happy!

[Barack O'Drama]

By the way, being able to check back on this thread and seeing so many new replies makes me happy!

Me too! It is nice to see it starting to get some action. And I'm quite certain as we get closer to four months out, it will be jumpin'

[muscleboundlaw]

By the way, being able to check back on this thread and seeing so many new replies makes me happy!

Me too! It is nice to see it starting to get some action. And I'm quite certain as we get closer to four months out, it will be jumpin'

I plan on being here religiously.

[Barack O'Drama]

By the way, being able to check back on this thread and seeing so many new replies makes me happy!

Me too! It is nice to see it starting to get some action. And I'm quite certain as we get closer to four months out, it will be jumpin'

I plan on being here religiously.

Good man! Same. We need to keep each other motivated. Mindset is so critical to do well on this test.

[Walliums]

By the way, being able to check back on this thread and seeing so many new replies makes me happy!

Me too! It is nice to see it starting to get some action. And I'm quite certain as we get closer to four months out, it will be jumpin'

I plan on being here religiously.

We'll keep each other sane!!

[muscleboundlaw]

I am using that guide by the person that got a 180. I finished my first books that was a good intro to the lLSAT and allowed me to improve by a good amount. Anyway, I have power score bibles and workbooks next. I am staggering my schedule at LR/LG/LR/LG/RC m-f and practice test Sunday. I am not sure if I have to put more time into RC so I put more emphasis on LR and lg. Do you guys think this is adequate?