The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Fri May 29, 2015 10:43 pm

Rigo wrote:How is everyone's prep going? Any megaprepper postponements?

Rigo! No megaposter postponements that I know of, but there aren't megaposters around anymore. In other news, I caved and dropped money on a 65L Osprey for back packing trips over the summer when my life is LSAT free. How's your LSAT free life?

Joscellin · Post by **Joscellin** » Fri May 29, 2015 10:51 pm

Seamus887 wrote:Well LG decided to screw with me again.

PT 64
173

LG -4
LR1 -2
LR2 -0
RC -3

Perfect LG section would have got me a 177.... Looks like getting my goal will depend on what the LG section looks like on test day :/

I know that feeling. I just got eaten alive by the games section on PT60, leaving me with my lowest score in weeks

Right after 5 straight tests over my target, too.

Generally · Post by **Generally** » Fri May 29, 2015 10:55 pm

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Li'l Sebastian · Post by **Li'l Sebastian** » Sat May 30, 2015 12:58 am

kevgogators wrote:
ruizdaw wrote:
kevgogators wrote:Is/has anyone else experienced an influx of intellectual auto-pilot while taking PTs or drilling?

It's difficult to describe, but it sort of feels like I'm just mindlessly going through the questions as opposed to being truly focused as I once was. As a result, I've been getting a few extra wrong and that's been knocking me off the 170+ train. Any advice on this?
I just started to notice that I was doing this but if anything it's been giving the biggest jump. When there's only 4 questions on any section that really make you go in the tank it's a lot more efficient.
I know what you mean. Initially this feeling helped with timing tremendously, it's just as of late that I've caught myself making careless mistakes like misreading or whatever. I've been going like -3 per LR when I used to consistently achieve -1 or so. IDK what's going on.

If the automatic process is already occurring, spend large tracts of time just going through a large volume of questions with the goal of just being 100% accurate regardless of time. Working on your accuracy even if it takes you like 10 minutes on one question will help stop you from making careless mistakes because of what it reinforces. Just like print out 100 LR/50 RC questions and just be as accurate as possible. Do that like three times. Then see how much your test day processing has improved. It's almost entirely a pattern recognition issue.

P.S. One thing I've found mind bogglingly useful in my prep was initially focusing the Games section until it was flawless. Not only are the vast majority of my LG sections on Practice Tests almost perfect, perfecting games early meant that I was and am able to focus almost exclusively on Reading Comp and Logical Reasoning, which really maximizes my allotted practice time getting this close to game day. These sections are best served for last, I think, because the question types are remarkably similar to each other and because gains in LG are almost always the most easily achieved which can be big motivation to propel us forward.

buckiguy_sucks · Post by **buckiguy_sucks** » Sat May 30, 2015 8:56 am

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Joscellin · Post by **Joscellin** » Sat May 30, 2015 9:43 am

buckiguy_sucks wrote:How do you guys deal with timing? Do you just count 35 minutes from whatever time it is, do you reset your watch to 12 every time so 35 minutes is the 7, or do you have one of those LSAT watches?

I like to set my watch to the nearest 5 minute mark, but not all the way up to 12.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat May 30, 2015 11:02 am

Seamus887 wrote:
Rigo wrote:These trails are sooooooo remote. I'd be surprised if they saw 20 hikers per year.
Whereabouts are they? Sounds like a trail I want to take.

Salmon-Challis National Forest, Idaho. Part of the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness.

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon-Challi ... nal_Forest
http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Church_ ... Wilderness

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat May 30, 2015 11:06 am

JackelJ wrote:
Rigo wrote:How is everyone's prep going? Any megaprepper postponements?
Rigo! No megaposter postponements that I know of, but there aren't megaposters around anymore. In other news, I caved and dropped money on a 65L Osprey for back packing trips over the summer when my life is LSAT free. How's your LSAT free life?

Is it the new red pack? I forget what the women's one is called but one of my crew mates has it and it looks awesome.

LSAT free life is going well. I miss home, but at least I'm having cool experiences. I've been thinking that I definitely want to hit the LSAT again this coming cycle. I'm so masochistic.

I hope everyone kills it in June. So many new posters here. The task of hazing all of them is too daunting.

buckiguy_sucks · Post by **buckiguy_sucks** » Sat May 30, 2015 11:22 am

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lebeaudiable · Post by **lebeaudiable** » Sat May 30, 2015 12:33 pm

buckiguy_sucks wrote:
Joscellin wrote:
buckiguy_sucks wrote:How do you guys deal with timing? Do you just count 35 minutes from whatever time it is, do you reset your watch to 12 every time so 35 minutes is the 7, or do you have one of those LSAT watches?
I like to set my watch to the nearest 5 minute mark, but not all the way up to 12.
Nice seems like the perfect compromise

Set to 11:25, and the ending will be at 12.

kevgogators · Post by **kevgogators** » Sat May 30, 2015 12:37 pm

ruizdaw wrote:
kevgogators wrote:
ruizdaw wrote:
kevgogators wrote:Is/has anyone else experienced an influx of intellectual auto-pilot while taking PTs or drilling?

It's difficult to describe, but it sort of feels like I'm just mindlessly going through the questions as opposed to being truly focused as I once was. As a result, I've been getting a few extra wrong and that's been knocking me off the 170+ train. Any advice on this?
I just started to notice that I was doing this but if anything it's been giving the biggest jump. When there's only 4 questions on any section that really make you go in the tank it's a lot more efficient.
I know what you mean. Initially this feeling helped with timing tremendously, it's just as of late that I've caught myself making careless mistakes like misreading or whatever. I've been going like -3 per LR when I used to consistently achieve -1 or so. IDK what's going on.

If the automatic process is already occurring, spend large tracts of time just going through a large volume of questions with the goal of just being 100% accurate regardless of time. Working on your accuracy even if it takes you like 10 minutes on one question will help stop you from making careless mistakes because of what it reinforces. Just like print out 100 LR/50 RC questions and just be as accurate as possible. Do that like three times. Then see how much your test day processing has improved. It's almost entirely a pattern recognition issue.

P.S. One thing I've found mind bogglingly useful in my prep was initially focusing the Games section until it was flawless. Not only are the vast majority of my LG sections on Practice Tests almost perfect, perfecting games early meant that I was and am able to focus almost exclusively on Reading Comp and Logical Reasoning, which really maximizes my allotted practice time getting this close to game day. These sections are best served for last, I think, because the question types are remarkably similar to each other and because gains in LG are almost always the most easily achieved which can be big motivation to propel us forward.

You nailed that description... it's definitely a pattern recognition issue. I'll print out some old sections from PT 1-20 and work it. Thanks for the solid advice, R.

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Sat May 30, 2015 1:30 pm

Rigo wrote:
JackelJ wrote:
Rigo wrote:How is everyone's prep going? Any megaprepper postponements?
Rigo! No megaposter postponements that I know of, but there aren't megaposters around anymore. In other news, I caved and dropped money on a 65L Osprey for back packing trips over the summer when my life is LSAT free. How's your LSAT free life?
Is it the new red pack? I forget what the women's one is called but one of my crew mates has it and it looks awesome.

LSAT free life is going well. I miss home, but at least I'm having cool experiences. I've been thinking that I definitely want to hit the LSAT again this coming cycle. I'm so masochistic.

I hope everyone kills it in June. So many new posters here. The task of hazing all of them is too daunting.

Yup, it's the red pack! You'll be home soon enough, I hope the rest of your wilderness journey is enjoyable.
So there's still a chance for a Cambridge bar crawl at ASW next cycle?

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat May 30, 2015 1:35 pm

I don't think I could take until February so probably still the cycle after, but I'm always down for a ~*~elite~*~ bar crawl.

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Sat May 30, 2015 1:45 pm

Haha alright. Try not to think too much about the LSAT until then!

buckiguy_sucks · Post by **buckiguy_sucks** » Sat May 30, 2015 2:19 pm

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Generally · Post by **Generally** » Sat May 30, 2015 2:31 pm

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Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat May 30, 2015 2:34 pm

Seamus887 wrote:Wonder what the chances that one of us in this thread will end up in the same school together? I have been watching Suits and now I find myself drawn to Columbia or NYU to experience a big ol Northern City... Ha, but if not UVA or Vandy.

Suits should make you Harvard or bust, if anything.

biggestlawman · Post by **biggestlawman** » Sat May 30, 2015 2:35 pm

Good luck with weekend PTs! I am in the drill mode!

Generally · Post by **Generally** » Sat May 30, 2015 2:44 pm

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Li'l Sebastian · Post by **Li'l Sebastian** » Sat May 30, 2015 3:12 pm

buckiguy_sucks wrote:PT 59:

LG:-3
LR:-1
LR:-1
RC-0

178

Huge outlier but still feels great

I know how you feel. But have faith!

It might be anecdotal but my outlier 179 on Friday just got a back up with 177 today!

Keep drilling and take another test tomorrow!

RareExports · Post by **RareExports** » Sat May 30, 2015 3:12 pm

What's up the games section on PT13? I usually don't miss any, but I missed 6 on that one.

LG: -6
LR1: -1
LR2: -1
RC: -1

174

whacka · Post by **whacka** » Sat May 30, 2015 3:18 pm

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Sat May 30, 2015 3:53 pm

whacka wrote:Lol I took a peek at the score conversions for 71 on break from my PT and this shit is insane. You could have gotten a -8 for a 175 on that test. Hope they recycle that curve. Welp, time to finish the test!

Curve has been -12 for the last two disclosed test (Sept/Dec). Who knows.

whacka · Post by **whacka** » Sat May 30, 2015 3:59 pm

buckiguy_sucks · Post by **buckiguy_sucks** » Sat May 30, 2015 6:14 pm

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