The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[BlackCanary]

It is so difficult to focus when your neighbors are busy prepping for Ramadan and all the delicious smells are wafting in. Suddenly have all of the study time munchies.

[proteinshake]

just went through the Relative Ordering Cambridge pack and went -0 on the whole thing. granted, every game was only level 1 or 2 on the difficulty scale and there were only 7 of them!

[34iplaw]

Two things...

Main thing: When blind reviewing, is it wise to go over answers that you sort of just knew and picked? i.e. you recognized a strong inference... best example I can think off of the top of my head is in the spoiler. Not the actual question, but I don't want to give anyone hints who hasn't gotten to it yet!

June 2005 Questions 17-22 - Secret Committee - 528-529 Power Score - couldn't double spoil! Don't click if you don't want to know a critical inference in the game.

[+] Spoiler

Ok... going to try a double spoiler in here just in case someone clicked by accident! I'm talking about the Magnus Pinky game.

I pretty instantly recognized the Magnus|Pinky relationship. Take the question [#21]...I knew it was E without reading anything... during a BR should I still go through to prove the wrong answers wrong?

I'm pretty sure this is well within the bounds of what I can post!

Side thing: Also, are you allowed to bring in custom mechanical watches? It may be overkill, but I was probably going to be that guy and order a LSAT watch... something with like a blank face with marks at 07, 14, 21, 28, & 35... can't upload pic ... I murdered my cheap weekender trying to take it apart and get at the face!

[westtech]

Drilled the Grouping (Distribution) packet over the last two days.

The results: column headers are test, number incorrect, actual time, target time.
PT27 S2 G3 -0 13:25 10:00
PT37 S3 G3 -1 13:23 11:00
PT19 S1 G4 -1 10:36 10:00
PT12 S2 G2 -1 19:19 8:00
PT10 S2 G3 -1 7:15 7:00
PT6 S4 G1 -0 9:50 10:00
PT19 S1 G3 -1 12:44 9:00
PT38 S2 G3 -2 15:55 8:00
PT24 S4 G1 -1 8:48 6:00
PT22 S3 G1 -0 12:50 6:00
PT29 S3 G1 -1 10:48 5:00
PT11 S1 G1 -0 9:23 10:00
PT13 S1 G1 -0 untimed 7:00
PT26 S1 G3 -1 12:39 9:00
PT14 S1 G3 -0 12:07 12:00
PT18 S1 G1 -1 13:50 8:00
PT23 S1 G3 -4 16:48 11:00
PT16 S1 G1 -1 11:26 7:00

[20170322]

Yet another day of no LSAT prep (3 in a row). The internship, plus workout, plus class, just ate the day. Need to make a more concerted effort to drill during the day-- luckily, the summer will calm down in a couple of weeks.

[34iplaw]

Oh - PS - about to sign up for a Testmasters...

Does anyone need a referral code & I'll Venmo/PayPal you half the amount/rebate [or want to give me yours and Venmo or PayPal me half the amount/rebate?]

LMK dudes and dudettes.

[Doubting Law]

Is anyone familiar with the "blind review" method from 7Sage? I've been trying to get myself to do it, but I can't help myself from checking my answers immediately after drilling LR. Has anyone who has implemented the "blind review" method seen a marked improvement?/ How do ya'll drill for LR? Sorry if this seems like a rambling post.

[Doubting Law]

Two things...

Main thing: When blind reviewing, is it wise to go over answers that you sort of just knew and picked? i.e. you recognized a strong inference... best example I can think off of the top of my head is in the spoiler. Not the actual question, but I don't want to give anyone hints who hasn't gotten to it yet!

June 2005 Questions 17-22 - Secret Committee - 528-529 Power Score - couldn't double spoil! Don't click if you don't want to know a critical inference in the game.

[+] Spoiler

Ok... going to try a double spoiler in here just in case someone clicked by accident! I'm talking about the Magnus Pinky game.

I pretty instantly recognized the Magnus|Pinky relationship. Take the question [#21]...I knew it was E without reading anything... during a BR should I still go through to prove the wrong answers wrong?

I'm pretty sure this is well within the bounds of what I can post!

Side thing: Also, are you allowed to bring in custom mechanical watches? It may be overkill, but I was probably going to be that guy and order a LSAT watch... something with like a blank face with marks at 07, 14, 21, 28, & 35... can't upload pic ... I murdered my cheap weekender trying to take it apart and get at the face!

Can you post the company that would make a custom LSAT watch? Curious to see what it'd look like.

[34iplaw]

Two things...

Main thing: When blind reviewing, is it wise to go over answers that you sort of just knew and picked? i.e. you recognized a strong inference... best example I can think off of the top of my head is in the spoiler. Not the actual question, but I don't want to give anyone hints who hasn't gotten to it yet!

June 2005 Questions 17-22 - Secret Committee - 528-529 Power Score - couldn't double spoil! Don't click if you don't want to know a critical inference in the game.

[+] Spoiler

Ok... going to try a double spoiler in here just in case someone clicked by accident! I'm talking about the Magnus Pinky game.

I pretty instantly recognized the Magnus|Pinky relationship. Take the question [#21]...I knew it was E without reading anything... during a BR should I still go through to prove the wrong answers wrong?

I'm pretty sure this is well within the bounds of what I can post!

Side thing: Also, are you allowed to bring in custom mechanical watches? It may be overkill, but I was probably going to be that guy and order a LSAT watch... something with like a blank face with marks at 07, 14, 21, 28, & 35... can't upload pic ... I murdered my cheap weekender trying to take it apart and get at the face!

Can you post the company that would make a custom LSAT watch? Curious to see what it'd look like.

So, these were the two I originally saw...

http://180watch.com/

https://toptiertimer.com/

I, personally, rather have something with 7 minute divisions [ambitious game timing]... along the lines of...

http://imgur.com/IdLyqj7


just did initial sketch up of idea... didn't really feel like investing too much time into the idea yet... I would just be using zazzle or something else... have to look into that.

Edit: actually just saw the 180 watch has 8 minute marks... maybe I'll order that one... just wish the lines were a bit longer for the game marks...

[proteinshake]

I'll most likely be getting the 180 Watch.

[Barack O'Drama]

Is anyone familiar with the "blind review" method from 7Sage? I've been trying to get myself to do it, but I can't help myself from checking my answers immediately after drilling LR. Has anyone who has implemented the "blind review" method seen a marked improvement?/ How do ya'll drill for LR? Sorry if this seems like a rambling post.

Yes. The BR method for me has helped a lot with LR. I started off at around missing 8 LR questions per section. Now I am missing ~4 per section. Blind review can be agonizing sometimes when you can't see why you got the question wrong. After sitting there and reviewing it for a few minutes I usually see what I did wrong, and what led me to the error in my process. It is my least favorite part of studying, but it undoubtedly is where I feel myself actually learning the most. Sometimes I have to sit there for 5 minutes examining the question, but in the end I rarely can't figure out what I did wrong. Painful, but helpful lol!

For LR I drill out of the Cambridge packets. I have been reading the LR lessons of the Trainer/PS LR Bible and then drilling about 50 questions from whatever question type I just learned. I ordered the Manhattan LSAT Logical reasoning and once it comes I am going to go through it and then do another 50 of each type. After I do the 50, I wait until later that day and then BR.

[Barack O'Drama]

Yet another day of no LSAT prep (3 in a row). The internship, plus workout, plus class, just ate the day. Need to make a more concerted effort to drill during the day-- luckily, the summer will calm down in a couple of weeks.

I feel you man. With work and everything it can be hard. I started studying in mid-May and towards the end I got really screwed with work and a funeral. I was really upset and had trouble getting back into the groove after I missed about a week without studying very much. Even if you only do a section a day, it's still better than nothing. Even setting aside a 35 minutes for that can be a challenge.

[Doubting Law]

Is anyone familiar with the "blind review" method from 7Sage? I've been trying to get myself to do it, but I can't help myself from checking my answers immediately after drilling LR. Has anyone who has implemented the "blind review" method seen a marked improvement?/ How do ya'll drill for LR? Sorry if this seems like a rambling post.

Yes. The BR method for me has helped a lot with LR. I started off at around missing 8 LR questions per section. Now I am missing ~4 per section. Blind review can be agonizing sometimes when you can't see why you got the question wrong. After sitting there and reviewing it for a few minutes I usually see what I did wrong, and what led me to the error in my process. It is my least favorite part of studying, but it undoubtedly is where I feel myself actually learning the most. Sometimes I have to sit there for 5 minutes examining the question, but in the end I rarely can't figure out what I did wrong. Painful, but helpful lol!

For LR I drill out of the Cambridge packets. I have been reading the LR lessons of the Trainer/PS LR Bible and then drilling about 50 questions from whatever question type I just learned. I ordered the Manhattan LSAT Logical reasoning and once it comes I am going to go through it and then do another 50 of each type. After I do the 50, I wait until later that day and then BR.

I'm going to try your strategy. I have the Ultimate package from 7Sage so I've been drilling from the 7,000 or so questions they have online. I really need to just force myself not to check the answers right away haha.

[etramak]

Hey everyone! Just signed up to re-take at the September date. I exhausted all of the PT material so I'm going to have to figure out an effective way to study regardless but I look forward to talking with all of you in the process. Anyone else here still gonna be in undergrad classes in september? I'm hoping this doesn't cause too much conflict.

[Barack O'Drama]

Is anyone familiar with the "blind review" method from 7Sage? I've been trying to get myself to do it, but I can't help myself from checking my answers immediately after drilling LR. Has anyone who has implemented the "blind review" method seen a marked improvement?/ How do ya'll drill for LR? Sorry if this seems like a rambling post.

Yes. The BR method for me has helped a lot with LR. I started off at around missing 8 LR questions per section. Now I am missing ~4 per section. Blind review can be agonizing sometimes when you can't see why you got the question wrong. After sitting there and reviewing it for a few minutes I usually see what I did wrong, and what led me to the error in my process. It is my least favorite part of studying, but it undoubtedly is where I feel myself actually learning the most. Sometimes I have to sit there for 5 minutes examining the question, but in the end I rarely can't figure out what I did wrong. Painful, but helpful lol!

For LR I drill out of the Cambridge packets. I have been reading the LR lessons of the Trainer/PS LR Bible and then drilling about 50 questions from whatever question type I just learned. I ordered the Manhattan LSAT Logical reasoning and once it comes I am going to go through it and then do another 50 of each type. After I do the 50, I wait until later that day and then BR.

I'm going to try your strategy. I have the Ultimate package from 7Sage so I've been drilling from the 7,000 or so questions they have online. I really need to just force myself not to check the answers right away haha.

Honestly man, I do it too sometimes and I can't help myself. Granted I only do it 1 or 2 times out of 50 questions, but I really should control myself haha!I will do a hard LR question and then just check. I am tying to stop, but I think it is just a symptom that I am not 100% where I want to be. I think it is just my lack of confidence on harder questions manifesting. I hope once I go through the Manhattan LR I will be confident enough that I know I am good.

The silver lining for me has been that every time I check it is usually wrong. This at least means I am cognizant of something not being right. Figuring out exactly what it is..different story lol

[Doubting Law]

Hey everyone! Just signed up to re-take at the September date. I exhausted all of the PT material so I'm going to have to figure out an effective way to study regardless but I look forward to talking with all of you in the process. Anyone else here still gonna be in undergrad classes in september? I'm hoping this doesn't cause too much conflict.

I'll be in my last semester of undergrad in September, but I'm only taking 13 credits so hopefully it doesn't conflict too much with my last minute cramming/prepping for the LSAT. This is also why I'm trying my best to get as much prep done this summer before the Fall semester starts.

[Doubting Law]

Is anyone familiar with the "blind review" method from 7Sage? I've been trying to get myself to do it, but I can't help myself from checking my answers immediately after drilling LR. Has anyone who has implemented the "blind review" method seen a marked improvement?/ How do ya'll drill for LR? Sorry if this seems like a rambling post.

Yes. The BR method for me has helped a lot with LR. I started off at around missing 8 LR questions per section. Now I am missing ~4 per section. Blind review can be agonizing sometimes when you can't see why you got the question wrong. After sitting there and reviewing it for a few minutes I usually see what I did wrong, and what led me to the error in my process. It is my least favorite part of studying, but it undoubtedly is where I feel myself actually learning the most. Sometimes I have to sit there for 5 minutes examining the question, but in the end I rarely can't figure out what I did wrong. Painful, but helpful lol!

For LR I drill out of the Cambridge packets. I have been reading the LR lessons of the Trainer/PS LR Bible and then drilling about 50 questions from whatever question type I just learned. I ordered the Manhattan LSAT Logical reasoning and once it comes I am going to go through it and then do another 50 of each type. After I do the 50, I wait until later that day and then BR.

I'm going to try your strategy. I have the Ultimate package from 7Sage so I've been drilling from the 7,000 or so questions they have online. I really need to just force myself not to check the answers right away haha.

Honestly man, I do it too sometimes and I can't help myself. Granted I only do it 1 or 2 times out of 50 questions, but I really should control myself haha!I will do a hard LR question and then just check. I am tying to stop, but I think it is just a symptom that I am not 100% where I want to be. I think it is just my lack of confidence on harder questions manifesting. I hope once I go through the Manhattan LR I will be confident enough that I know I am good.

The silver lining for me has been that every time I check it is usually wrong. This at least means I am cognizant of something not being right. Figuring out exactly what it is..different story lol

I feel you 100%. I notice that when I check my answers right away, most of time the ones that are wrong are because I fell for an obvious trap or didn't read the answer choice carefully enough.

[etramak]

Hey everyone! Just signed up to re-take at the September date. I exhausted all of the PT material so I'm going to have to figure out an effective way to study regardless but I look forward to talking with all of you in the process. Anyone else here still gonna be in undergrad classes in september? I'm hoping this doesn't cause too much conflict.

I'll be in my last semester of undergrad in September, but I'm only taking 13 credits so hopefully it doesn't conflict too much with my last minute cramming/prepping for the LSAT. This is also why I'm trying my best to get as much prep done this summer before the Fall semester starts.

Same here! Graduating in December. I think I'll just be re-taking some of the more recent exams on the weekend in July and August and then finally retake the test I took this afternoon before the real thing in September. Usually professors hit me with tests/quizzes the last week of September so I'm just hoping I can juggle both.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Is anyone familiar with the "blind review" method from 7Sage? I've been trying to get myself to do it, but I can't help myself from checking my answers immediately after drilling LR. Has anyone who has implemented the "blind review" method seen a marked improvement?/ How do ya'll drill for LR? Sorry if this seems like a rambling post.

Yes. The BR method for me has helped a lot with LR. I started off at around missing 8 LR questions per section. Now I am missing ~4 per section. Blind review can be agonizing sometimes when you can't see why you got the question wrong. After sitting there and reviewing it for a few minutes I usually see what I did wrong, and what led me to the error in my process. It is my least favorite part of studying, but it undoubtedly is where I feel myself actually learning the most. Sometimes I have to sit there for 5 minutes examining the question, but in the end I rarely can't figure out what I did wrong. Painful, but helpful lol!

For LR I drill out of the Cambridge packets. I have been reading the LR lessons of the Trainer/PS LR Bible and then drilling about 50 questions from whatever question type I just learned. I ordered the Manhattan LSAT Logical reasoning and once it comes I am going to go through it and then do another 50 of each type. After I do the 50, I wait until later that day and then BR.

I'm going to try your strategy. I have the Ultimate package from 7Sage so I've been drilling from the 7,000 or so questions they have online. I really need to just force myself not to check the answers right away haha.

Honestly man, I do it too sometimes and I can't help myself. Granted I only do it 1 or 2 times out of 50 questions, but I really should control myself haha!I will do a hard LR question and then just check. I am tying to stop, but I think it is just a symptom that I am not 100% where I want to be. I think it is just my lack of confidence on harder questions manifesting. I hope once I go through the Manhattan LR I will be confident enough that I know I am good.

The silver lining for me has been that every time I check it is usually wrong. This at least means I am cognizant of something not being right. Figuring out exactly what it is..different story lol

I didn't really think about using blind-review during drilling. I assumed it was more for PTs. Going to make sure I do this when drilling by type from now on...

[Barack O'Drama]

Is anyone familiar with the "blind review" method from 7Sage? I've been trying to get myself to do it, but I can't help myself from checking my answers immediately after drilling LR. Has anyone who has implemented the "blind review" method seen a marked improvement?/ How do ya'll drill for LR? Sorry if this seems like a rambling post.

Yes. The BR method for me has helped a lot with LR. I started off at around missing 8 LR questions per section. Now I am missing ~4 per section. Blind review can be agonizing sometimes when you can't see why you got the question wrong. After sitting there and reviewing it for a few minutes I usually see what I did wrong, and what led me to the error in my process. It is my least favorite part of studying, but it undoubtedly is where I feel myself actually learning the most. Sometimes I have to sit there for 5 minutes examining the question, but in the end I rarely can't figure out what I did wrong. Painful, but helpful lol!

For LR I drill out of the Cambridge packets. I have been reading the LR lessons of the Trainer/PS LR Bible and then drilling about 50 questions from whatever question type I just learned. I ordered the Manhattan LSAT Logical reasoning and once it comes I am going to go through it and then do another 50 of each type. After I do the 50, I wait until later that day and then BR.

I'm going to try your strategy. I have the Ultimate package from 7Sage so I've been drilling from the 7,000 or so questions they have online. I really need to just force myself not to check the answers right away haha.

Honestly man, I do it too sometimes and I can't help myself. Granted I only do it 1 or 2 times out of 50 questions, but I really should control myself haha!I will do a hard LR question and then just check. I am tying to stop, but I think it is just a symptom that I am not 100% where I want to be. I think it is just my lack of confidence on harder questions manifesting. I hope once I go through the Manhattan LR I will be confident enough that I know I am good.

The silver lining for me has been that every time I check it is usually wrong. This at least means I am cognizant of something not being right. Figuring out exactly what it is..different story lol

I didn't really think about using blind-review during drilling. I assumed it was more for PTs. Going to make sure I do this when drilling by type from now on...

I just started really* drilling, so I am not sure if there's any downsides?
I think, at least in the early phases, it's extremely useful. Once I start really Pt'ing I am going to put more energy and time into that, but for now, I don't see any reason to waste questions. I guess try it out, the only downside for me has been is it being time consuming, but if you can spare it, it can only help..

[BlackCanary]

Just took another PT for better analysis of what I need to tackle. Pretty pleased with the results.

Think I will be focusing on LR since it has the most potential to translate into points.

I'm still trying to figure out a way to get all of the materials I have at home over to where I am now, but I do have PS LR, so I'll be doing that for now.

[20170322]

Yet another day of no LSAT prep (3 in a row). The internship, plus workout, plus class, just ate the day. Need to make a more concerted effort to drill during the day-- luckily, the summer will calm down in a couple of weeks.

I feel you man. With work and everything it can be hard. I started studying in mid-May and towards the end I got really screwed with work and a funeral. I was really upset and had trouble getting back into the groove after I missed about a week without studying very much. Even if you only do a section a day, it's still better than nothing. Even setting aside a 35 minutes for that can be a challenge.

Yeah, gonna hop back on the prep-train today. It's hard to stay committed when the test is so far off, but every day counts.

[BlackCanary]

Thinking of getting Manhattan LR. They offer an e-version... love having actual books, but given the complications of getting anything to my current location, I think this might be the best option. I would also get start it sooner and it would be super easy to take with me to work/travel.

Yeah, gonna hop back on the prep-train today. It's hard to stay committed when the test is so far off, but every day counts.

It's really not though. There's very little precious time, especially if you have other commitments. Get back on that train.

[Gluteus]

That feel when you need a 166 on the LSAT to get into your dream school (Canadian)

Feel bad for the folks who need a 170-176+


Going to get 3 hours of LG drilling done today

[Mikey]

Waddup people, I hope you're all doing well. I more than likely will be joining you all unless my June results prove my thoughts wrong.