The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

ChoboPie · Post by **ChoboPie** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:26 pm

I'm pretty confused too... Like seriously, what are you on, Lawjag?

Also, working full-time while studying LSAT really doesn't feel terrible ... I work 8-7 and can still get in a solid 10-15 hours/week, which feels like a perfectly fine pace. I tried doing an insane number of hours/week for a few weeks before the September administration (literally, no job and just 100% LSAT), and it was one of the dumbest decisions I've ever made in my life.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:36 pm

I've heard people say that less than 15 hours per week is pointless, and I'm having trouble reaching that.

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:37 pm

ChoboPie wrote:I'm pretty confused too... Like seriously, what are you on, Lawjag?

Also, working full-time while studying LSAT really doesn't feel terrible ... I work 8-7 and can still get in a solid 10-15 hours/week, which feels like a perfectly fine pace. I tried doing an insane number of hours/week for a few weeks before the September administration (literally, no job and just 100% LSAT), and it was one of the dumbest decisions I've ever made in my life.

Chobo, coming from you, it makes sense. But, for someone who is not in that situation to lecture on it is adventurous at best, and petty and foolish at worst. Add to that the rude remarks! Believe me, I am not happy about dishing it out, even when it is by way of dishing it back.

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:39 pm

RZ5646 wrote:I've heard people say that less than 15 hours per week is pointless, and I'm having trouble reaching that.

I can only speak from my experience. 15 hours a week will only take you so far.

NonTradLawHopeful · Post by **NonTradLawHopeful** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:40 pm

Reminder to anyone working fulltime who thinks they are at a "disadvantage", if you have meaningful work, it will be on your resume and make you that much more marketable than the person who has to write an addendum for why they were unemployed for a year.

Yes, I get that it is a numbers game, but strong softs can push you from borderline to in at your reach schools. As someone with an embarrassingly low GPA and very strong softs, I know firsthand from success this cycle that softs matter in a buyers market.

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:43 pm

NonTradLawHopeful wrote:Reminder to anyone working fulltime who thinks they are at a "disadvantage", if you have meaningful work, it will be on your resume and make you that much more marketable than the person who has to write an addendum for why they were unemployed for a year.

Yes, I get that it is a numbers game, but strong softs can push you from borderline to in at your reach schools. As someone with an embarrassingly low GPA and very strong softs, I know firsthand from success this cycle that softs matter in a buyers market.

Good to know! Could you please elaborate? It might benefit me! I keep hearing, as you said, that it is about hard numbers.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:43 pm

RZ5646 wrote:I've heard people say that less than 15 hours per week is pointless, and I'm having trouble reaching that.

Not true at all. I only did 10-15 hours most weeks (and that's probably a liberal estimate). It's more so the total time you put in, not the time per week, and if you've truly been at it for a year (or even for several months already), then you've put in a lot of cumulative hours.
If you've been making progress, then you're doing it right.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:46 pm

Dirigo wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:I've heard people say that less than 15 hours per week is pointless, and I'm having trouble reaching that.
Not true at all. I only did 10-15 hours most weeks (and that's probably a liberal estimate). It's more so the total time you put in, not the time per week, and if you've truly been at it for a year (or even for several months already), then you've put in a lot of cumulative hours.
If you've been making progress, then you're doing it right.

I've only been seriously studying since Christmas break started lol

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:49 pm

RZ5646 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:I've heard people say that less than 15 hours per week is pointless, and I'm having trouble reaching that.
Not true at all. I only did 10-15 hours most weeks (and that's probably a liberal estimate). It's more so the total time you put in, not the time per week, and if you've truly been at it for a year (or even for several months already), then you've put in a lot of cumulative hours.
If you've been making progress, then you're doing it right.
I've only been seriously studying since Christmas break started lol

Oh I was assuming you were a serious gunner starting this thread a year before the test.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:51 pm

Dirigo wrote: Oh I was assuming you were a serious gunner starting this thread a year before the test.

I procrastinate a lot.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:53 pm

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Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:54 pm

RZ5646 wrote:
Dirigo wrote: Oh I was assuming you were a serious gunner starting this thread a year before the test.
I procrastinate a lot.

Ugh me too. I haven't studied a lick since December 6th.
Tomorrow there are only 20 weeks left. That seems super soon.
Make it count!

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:55 pm

RZ5646 wrote:I've only been seriously studying since Christmas break started lol

Haven't your PT scores been in the mid-170's? I wish I could have that kind of score improvement in a month.

NonTradLawHopeful · Post by **NonTradLawHopeful** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:55 pm

RZ5646 wrote:
Dirigo wrote: Oh I was assuming you were a serious gunner starting this thread a year before the test.
I procrastinate a lot.

What happened to the long plan that involved reading every prep book imaginable? What is your study plan now?

NonTradLawHopeful · Post by **NonTradLawHopeful** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:05 pm

lawjag2015 wrote:
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:Reminder to anyone working fulltime who thinks they are at a "disadvantage", if you have meaningful work, it will be on your resume and make you that much more marketable than the person who has to write an addendum for why they were unemployed for a year.

Yes, I get that it is a numbers game, but strong softs can push you from borderline to in at your reach schools. As someone with an embarrassingly low GPA and very strong softs, I know firsthand from success this cycle that softs matter in a buyers market.
Good to know! Could you please elaborate? It might benefit me! I keep hearing, as you said, that it is about hard numbers.

GPA: sub 3.0
LSAT: low 160s
Softs: 4+ years strong leadership experience, military, most of a Masters with strong GPA

The numbers are nothing special. LSN put me at less than 5% for most schools I applied to. So far I have been accepted to 3 T-1s and WL at a Top 20 (which I am not pursuing since I am waiting a year to go to law school). Still waiting to hear from the rest, all T-1s with one T-2 as a safety.

If you want more specifics feel free to PM me.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:07 pm

Yeah military is definitely a strong soft.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:07 pm

1. Yes on my last 2 PT's I scored in the mid 170s, with the caveat that in the one case the LG was unusually easy and in the other case I had seen some of the games before when drilling. I missed 1 LR and 1 RC on each of those PTs, so I feel like I'm at an okay level for those sections, but LG could still sink me.

2. My crazy intense plan evaporated when my short-lived LSAT study group fell apart at the beginning of the fall semester and I lost motivation. I also took a PT at that time and got a 166, so I felt like I could postpone studying some. My current plan is to spend this week drilling LG hard and then doing 2 PTs per week for the rest of the school year. I still have to read Manhattan LR, the rest of the Trainer, and possibly the LR Bible.

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:14 pm

NonTradLawHopeful wrote:
lawjag2015 wrote:
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:Reminder to anyone working fulltime who thinks they are at a "disadvantage", if you have meaningful work, it will be on your resume and make you that much more marketable than the person who has to write an addendum for why they were unemployed for a year.

Yes, I get that it is a numbers game, but strong softs can push you from borderline to in at your reach schools. As someone with an embarrassingly low GPA and very strong softs, I know firsthand from success this cycle that softs matter in a buyers market.
Good to know! Could you please elaborate? It might benefit me! I keep hearing, as you said, that it is about hard numbers.
GPA: sub 3.0
LSAT: low 160s
Softs: 4+ years strong leadership experience, military, most of a Masters with strong GPA

The numbers are nothing special. LSN put me at less than 5% for most schools I applied to. So far I have been accepted to 3 T-1s and WL at a Top 20 (which I am not pursuing since I am waiting a year to go to law school). Still waiting to hear from the rest, all T-1s with one T-2 as a safety.

If you want more specifics feel free to PM me.

Thanks!

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:54 pm

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RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:57 pm

gamerish wrote: You got a 166 on your diagnostic?

164 on my diagnostic, which I took literally years ago when I was deciding what to major in.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:00 pm

RZ5646 wrote:
gamerish wrote: You got a 166 on your diagnostic?

164 on my diagnostic, which I took literally years ago when I was deciding what to major in.

Savant.

kevgogators · Post by **kevgogators** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:08 pm

Checking in, homies. Currently scoring in the high 160's territory.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:09 pm

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TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:10 pm

^fellow uf grad?

Edit. Meant toward gogators

kevgogators · Post by **kevgogators** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:17 pm

campaignraiser wrote:^fellow uf grad?

Edit. Meant toward gogators

Always glad to bump into a fellow Gator. Graduating at the end of this term, but taking a gap year before lawl skool.