The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[20170322]

Tbh, after deciding I'm cool with Harvard at sticker, I'm cool with anything above a 171.

are you still going to try to gun for that dillard scholly?

Yeah, and I'd probs still prefer it to sticker at HYS, but I think I'd go to law school this year if I got HYS.

[Alexandros]

Three days of classes and I'm already behind

[Instrumental]

i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc

Same but replace it with LR.

i'll trade RC for anything. all level 5 difficulty lr section, 4 extremely tough additional lg games anything. fuck rc.

i'll do like 10 writing samples and have my hand cramping tf up in place of rc

I'm glad someone else shares my hatred for that section. It warms my heart.

[Alexandros]

SERIOUS QUESTION(S) Y'ALL!!!!

What are you guys planning on eating for breakfast and bringing for lunch?

Also what time do you guys plan on waking up?

Breakfast - egg on english muffin.
Lunch/snack - an entire thing of Häagen-Dazs to drown my sorrows. worried it might be a bit melted tho so I'm gonna have to investigate the TC freezer situation. also (for real) - granola bars (nature valley extra protein, hopefully), cliff bar, maybe-probably something else. I highly doubt I'll eat it all / much but my brain shuts down when I'm hungry so better safe than sorry.

Waking up at 5am at the latest, but that was before I realized I'd be having a commute in the morning, so I'm still trying to work that out.

[proteinshake]

PT 77:

Score 175
BR 178

RC -3
LR -1
LG -1
LR -1

haven't BR'd the experimental yet but I'll do it tomorrow. feels good to be back in my range after a week off. would've been a 176 if I didn't misread a question stem in LR2.

I sat for the real thing, but nothing besides game 3 looked familiar. even then, I didn't even know how to solve game 3 until I took this PT yesterday. I wasn't really good at LG when I sat for this also this RC did not feel like a 5/5.

[Mikey]

PT 77:

Score 175
BR 178

RC -3
LR -1
LG -1
LR -1

haven't BR'd the experimental yet but I'll do it tomorrow. feels good to be back in my range after a week off. would've been a 176 if I didn't misread a question stem in LR2.

I sat for the real thing, but nothing besides game 3 looked familiar. even then, I didn't even know how to solve game 3 until I took this PT yesterday. I wasn't really good at LG when I sat for this also this RC did not feel like a 5/5.

Dope score. How the hell do you guys go -3 and better?

[Mikey]

PT61 RC had it's way with me

[Alexandros]

i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc

Same but replace it with LR.

i'll trade RC for anything. all level 5 difficulty lr section, 4 extremely tough additional lg games anything. fuck rc.

i'll do like 10 writing samples and have my hand cramping tf up in place of rc

I've just accepted that I'm gonna miss 3 RC on test day. I accept my fate.

RC seems to be very hit or miss for me. I feel like I rely almost solely on my intuition, (as opposed to reasoning, like the other two sections) and how well I perform is mainly a factor of how focused I am and how comfortable I am with the passage material, and I don't really have a reliable strategy to approach it with. (aside from like... hope for the best?)

[Alexandros]

PT 77:

Score 175
BR 178

RC -3
LR -1
LG -1
LR -1

haven't BR'd the experimental yet but I'll do it tomorrow. feels good to be back in my range after a week off. would've been a 176 if I didn't misread a question stem in LR2.

I sat for the real thing, but nothing besides game 3 looked familiar. even then, I didn't even know how to solve game 3 until I took this PT yesterday. I wasn't really good at LG when I sat for this also this RC did not feel like a 5/5.

HELL YES congrats protein!!

[proteinshake]

PT 77:

Score 175
BR 178

RC -3
LR -1
LG -1
LR -1

haven't BR'd the experimental yet but I'll do it tomorrow. feels good to be back in my range after a week off. would've been a 176 if I didn't misread a question stem in LR2.

I sat for the real thing, but nothing besides game 3 looked familiar. even then, I didn't even know how to solve game 3 until I took this PT yesterday. I wasn't really good at LG when I sat for this also this RC did not feel like a 5/5.

Dope score. How the hell do you guys go -3 and better?

I was literally where you are before I sat for this test in December. this time around, I focus on the structure and not getting bogged down in details. if you know WHY a sentence or paragraph is there, you're golden. it's a lot like when LR has complex science as the topic. it doesn't really matter what they're talking about -- it's easy to figure out the conclusion and the support. RC is just like this (there are differences of course).

[Mikey]

PT 77:

Score 175
BR 178

RC -3
LR -1
LG -1
LR -1

haven't BR'd the experimental yet but I'll do it tomorrow. feels good to be back in my range after a week off. would've been a 176 if I didn't misread a question stem in LR2.

I sat for the real thing, but nothing besides game 3 looked familiar. even then, I didn't even know how to solve game 3 until I took this PT yesterday. I wasn't really good at LG when I sat for this also this RC did not feel like a 5/5.

Dope score. How the hell do you guys go -3 and better?

I was literally where you are before I sat for this test in December. this time around, I focus on the structure and not getting bogged down in details. if you know WHY a sentence or paragraph is there, you're golden. it's a lot like when LR has complex science as the topic. it doesn't really matter what they're talking about -- it's easy to figure out the conclusion and the support. RC is just like this (there are differences of course).

I've just done so many RC passages all summer and I still suck. I saw improvement back when I was doing easy passages and repeating them, but it's still no help. I might have to accept the fact that my RC section won't get any better. I might have to just bank on acing the other sections if this is actually the case.

the memory method has been where i've seen most improvement, but i still feel like it just isn't good enough. plus, my rc timing is horrendous compared to the other sections.

[proteinshake]

PT 77:

Score 175
BR 178

RC -3
LR -1
LG -1
LR -1

haven't BR'd the experimental yet but I'll do it tomorrow. feels good to be back in my range after a week off. would've been a 176 if I didn't misread a question stem in LR2.

I sat for the real thing, but nothing besides game 3 looked familiar. even then, I didn't even know how to solve game 3 until I took this PT yesterday. I wasn't really good at LG when I sat for this also this RC did not feel like a 5/5.

HELL YES congrats protein!!

you too

[Alexandros]

Since a good portion of us have done PT 77 -

[+] Spoiler

How in the hell were you actually supposed to do that 3rd game? I basically winged it and didn't really set anything up.

also (spoiler involving PT 72)

[+] Spoiler

do y'all think these *weird* games getting common again? Can't remember any other specific numbers but 72 and 77 both had pretty non-traditional games imo. Or am I overthinking this.

[proteinshake]

I've just done so many RC passages all summer and I still suck. I saw improvement back when I was doing easy passages and repeating them, but it's still no help. I might have to accept the fact that my RC section won't get any better. I might have to just bank on acing the other sections if this is actually the case.

the memory method has been where i've seen most improvement, but i still feel like it just isn't good enough. plus, my rc timing is horrendous compared to the other sections.

do you pause after each paragraph and passage to think about what you read? after each paragraph I do a quick summary and purpose of the paragraph, and the same thing after the whole passage. if the memory method just focuses on retaining facts about the passage, I can't see why it would help much, since that isn't going to help with structure, but I'm not familiar with the method so idk.

[proteinshake]

Since a good portion of us have done PT 77 -

[+] Spoiler

How in the hell were you actually supposed to do that 3rd game? I basically winged it and didn't really set anything up.

[+] Spoiler

no setup is necessary at all. there really isn't one you could make.

the key to this game is the last rule. each of the questions will test your ability to see whether or not office selections for the 4 employees is possible given this constraint. take question 13. you pretty much had to brute force this one. what I did was rewrite B like this:

J - Z
L - X
P - W
T - Y

what we have to figure out is if there is an order these four could go in which they would select these offices, keeping the last rule in mind. indeed it is possible if L goes first, T goes second, J goes third, and L goes fourth. if they go in this order, we would get the selection we get in B, which is correct. basically if you understand this, you understand the game.

one inference is that one person will definitely get their first option, since one person will have to go first (but this doesn't mean whoever gets their first option went first).

this game is hard to explain but I hope this helps.

[Pozzo]

Since a good portion of us have done PT 77 -

[+] Spoiler

How in the hell were you actually supposed to do that 3rd game? I basically winged it and didn't really set anything up.

[+] Spoiler

Yeah, there was no real "board" for it. I just started plugging and chugging. Fortunately, the questions aren't really all that tough once you get past the shock of it.

[Mikey]

I've just done so many RC passages all summer and I still suck. I saw improvement back when I was doing easy passages and repeating them, but it's still no help. I might have to accept the fact that my RC section won't get any better. I might have to just bank on acing the other sections if this is actually the case.

the memory method has been where i've seen most improvement, but i still feel like it just isn't good enough. plus, my rc timing is horrendous compared to the other sections.

do you pause after each paragraph and passage to think about what you read? after each paragraph I do a quick summary and purpose of the paragraph, and the same thing after the whole passage. if the memory method just focuses on retaining facts about the passage, I can't see why it would help much, since that isn't going to help with structure, but I'm not familiar with the method so idk.

Yeah after each paragraph I usually just say like a short sentence in my head of what the paragraph is. Sometimes I go straight to the questions after the passage, but sometimes I review the passage's paragraphs.

[Pozzo]

24 pack of black ticons at Staples for $3 right now. Get on it!

[Rupert Pupkin]

When you guys are drilling your weak areas? How many consecutive correct answers does it take for you to generally be like "OK I get this shit now"? just curious how long I should spend drilling weak question-types

Honestly, I'm past the point of drilling question types. That worked really well to get me from the mid-160's to 170 or so. But, at this point, I find I understand the mechanics of all the questions.

Now, success at the margins is more a function of being able to clutch-shift-gas between question types in the heat of the race. So, I end up trying to get into a flow or a rhythm--drilling skill sets don't seem to transfer to this skill-set. Hope this makes sense.

Alright. Yea- that totally makes sense. Thanks for the input.

[Rupert Pupkin]

24 pack of black ticons at Staples for $3 right now. Get on it!

Woot woot!

[Alexandros]

Since a good portion of us have done PT 77 -

[+] Spoiler

How in the hell were you actually supposed to do that 3rd game? I basically winged it and didn't really set anything up.

[+] Spoiler

no setup is necessary at all. there really isn't one you could make.

the key to this game is the last rule. each of the questions will test your ability to see whether or not office selections for the 4 employees is possible given this constraint. take question 13. you pretty much had to brute force this one. what I did was rewrite B like this:

J - Z
L - X
P - W
T - Y

what we have to figure out is if there is an order these four could go in which they would select these offices, keeping the last rule in mind. indeed it is possible if L goes first, T goes second, J goes third, and L goes fourth. if they go in this order, we would get the selection we get in B, which is correct. basically if you understand this, you understand the game.

one inference is that one person will definitely get their first option, since one person will have to go first (but this doesn't mean whoever gets their first option went first).

this game is hard to explain but I hope this helps.

Thank you! I think that was more or less my thinking (at least by the time I was a few questions in). it's weird not having a way to visually set it up.

Thanks! Yeah, that's what I did as well. I'm glad it was short game.

[20170322]

24 pack of black ticons at Staples for $3 right now. Get on it!

Woot woot!

Tbh the LSAT has forever made me a pencil snob.

[Instrumental]

My biggest issue in RC I think is just translating what I the answer is in my mind to the equivalent in the answer choices. The way they write the answer is almost always counter-intuitive. I rarely have difficulty following the passage and understanding what was discussed (and consequently I rarely miss the general picture questions), but I the wording of their answer choices throws me off a lot. idk. I have my scores in each section graphed out and RC is the only one with a flat line.

[20170322]

Got the 4th draft pick

[20170322]

Doing my legal writing homework for UG and realizing how out of my depth I am.