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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Alexandros » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:07 pm

SweetTort wrote:
Alexandros wrote:PT 77:
RC: 0
LR1: -4 :shock:
LG: 0
LR exp: 0
LR2: -1
raw: 96
scaled: 176

Beat the 175 at long last. Which is good, because that means I can finally let myself watch Legally Blonde. 8)

Killing the game!!!!

I'm about to take PT 77, so I hope I can match your score.
Thanks!! :D Good luck! you're gonna leave us all in the dust. :wink:

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:09 pm

ponderingmeerkat wrote:Ooooooo everyone is taking PT77 today.

My results from this AM--fresh, clean, never tampered with, virgin prep test: 176 (-1/-2 LR, -1 RC, -1 LG)

Now it's Tort's turn to show up Alex and I with a straight up 180. Good luck guy! 8)
WOOT fuck yes *high-five* 8)

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:10 pm

Alexandros wrote:PT 77:
RC: 0
LR1: -4 :shock:
LG: 0
LR exp: 0
LR2: -1
raw: 96
scaled: 176

Beat the 175 at long last. Which is good, because that means I can finally let myself watch Legally Blonde. 8)
Alexandros wrote:
ponderingmeerkat wrote:Ooooooo everyone is taking PT77 today.

My results from this AM--fresh, clean, never tampered with, virgin prep test: 176 (-1/-2 LR, -1 RC, -1 LG)

Now it's Tort's turn to show up Alex and I with a straight up 180. Good luck guy! 8)
WOOT fuck yes *high-five* 8)
Beast mode!!! Hoping to join the club on my next PT
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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by Rupert Pupkin » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:12 pm

When you guys are drilling your weak areas? How many consecutive correct answers does it take for you to generally be like "OK I get this shit now"? just curious how long I should spend drilling weak question-types

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Post by Alexandros » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:13 pm

TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Alexandros wrote:PT 77:
RC: 0
LR1: -4 :shock:
LG: 0
LR exp: 0
LR2: -1
raw: 96
scaled: 176

Beat the 175 at long last. Which is good, because that means I can finally let myself watch Legally Blonde. 8)
Dope score! Proud of you, cuz. Which PT was your exp from?
Thanks Mikey!! :) experimental was 54.4.
Ahh ok. I was just curious to see if some of you used very old sections or more recent sections as your exp :D
I do usually use old sections (trying to save the newer ones for PTs obv.) But I didn't think I had any old sections that I'd never seen before readily available this morning.

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:18 pm

ponderingmeerkat wrote:Ooooooo everyone is taking PT77 today.

My results from this AM--fresh, clean, never tampered with, virgin prep test: 176 (-1/-2 LR, -1 RC, -1 LG)

Now it's Tort's turn to show up Alex and I with a straight up 180. Good luck guy! 8)

The real question: will I do better on that PT, or the draft tonight? ;)

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Post by Rupert Pupkin » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:31 pm

SweetTort wrote:
ponderingmeerkat wrote:Ooooooo everyone is taking PT77 today.

My results from this AM--fresh, clean, never tampered with, virgin prep test: 176 (-1/-2 LR, -1 RC, -1 LG)

Now it's Tort's turn to show up Alex and I with a straight up 180. Good luck guy! 8)

The real question: will I do better on that PT, or the draft tonight? ;)
OBJ is 180!

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Post by ponderingmeerkat » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:31 pm

SweetTort wrote:
ponderingmeerkat wrote:Ooooooo everyone is taking PT77 today.

My results from this AM--fresh, clean, never tampered with, virgin prep test: 176 (-1/-2 LR, -1 RC, -1 LG)

Now it's Tort's turn to show up Alex and I with a straight up 180. Good luck guy! 8)

The real question: will I do better on that PT, or the draft tonight? ;)
Shits gunna get real man! :lol:

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Post by ponderingmeerkat » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:33 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
ponderingmeerkat wrote:Ooooooo everyone is taking PT77 today.

My results from this AM--fresh, clean, never tampered with, virgin prep test: 176 (-1/-2 LR, -1 RC, -1 LG)

Now it's Tort's turn to show up Alex and I with a straight up 180. Good luck guy! 8)

The real question: will I do better on that PT, or the draft tonight? ;)
OBJ is 180!
Definitely the HYS of draft picks. If you aren't in the first three draft spots, no way you're gunna get a look at him.

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Post by ponderingmeerkat » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:36 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:When you guys are drilling your weak areas? How many consecutive correct answers does it take for you to generally be like "OK I get this shit now"? just curious how long I should spend drilling weak question-types
Honestly, I'm past the point of drilling question types. That worked really well to get me from the mid-160's to 170 or so. But, at this point, I find I understand the mechanics of all the questions.

Now, success at the margins is more a function of being able to clutch-shift-gas between question types in the heat of the race. So, I end up trying to get into a flow or a rhythm--drilling skill sets don't seem to transfer to this skill-set. Hope this makes sense.

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Re: The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS

Post by appind » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:37 pm

jagerbom79 wrote:
Alexandros wrote:PT 77:
RC: 0
LR1: -4 :shock:
LG: 0
LR exp: 0
LR2: -1
raw: 96
scaled: 176

Beat the 175 at long last. Which is good, because that means I can finally let myself watch Legally Blonde. 8)
Alexandros wrote:
ponderingmeerkat wrote:Ooooooo everyone is taking PT77 today.

My results from this AM--fresh, clean, never tampered with, virgin prep test: 176 (-1/-2 LR, -1 RC, -1 LG)

Now it's Tort's turn to show up Alex and I with a straight up 180. Good luck guy! 8)
WOOT fuck yes *high-five* 8)
Beast mode!!! Hoping to join the club on my next PT
nice, thats amazing scores for fresh tests

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Post by appind » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:43 pm

proteinshake wrote:
StopLawying wrote:Do you guys do 15 in 15 for LR? I'm able to do 10 in 10, but am usually at the 17,18 min mark when I'm finished with #15. And I usually finish sections right in time, never have time to check answers. I'm at around -6,-7 total for LR.
probably half and half. sometimes I'll be at the 16-17 mark by the time I finish #15. if it's hard I'll be at 18:00 but never past that. 15 in 18 is still good time as long as the questions that are slowing you down are indeed difficult questions and you aren't just staring at a question or something.
I am one of those that's usually never at 10 by 10 or 15 by 15 mark. I am usually 10-12 min for 10 q and 16-19 min for 15 q. In some cases I have been even at 20 min mark for 15 q.

Somehow q16-20 go faster for me in 7-8 mins than expected.

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Post by ponderingmeerkat » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:54 pm

appind wrote:Guise,

I posted this a few pages back but it's got buried in the posts since.

I'm having trouble seeing the correctness of credited choice of 77.rc.q1. anyone understand this?

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Psg only supports that ftp's nunits came closer to founding national black theatre than anyone else, not that they did found one. C says it founded perhaps a national black theatre. I eliminated C due to this distinction.
Hey guy, so now that I've knocked out this PT, time to look at this.
[+] Spoiler
As I see it, answer C leaves itself an "escape clause" from this argument by using the "perhaps" verbiage. Meaning, "maybe they did and maybe they didn't. It's possible." It's not like there's a black line drawn on a map somewhere that, once you cross it, you are officially labeled a "national theater". It's a spectrum with a lot of grey...but, they were in 28 states. Some might say they classify as national. Others might disagree. But, we can all agree they came close. "Perhaps" they made the first national theater program.

(You can also solve this by POE because all the other answers are way wrong.)

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Post by Instrumental » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:04 pm

Seems like after struggling to attain scores in the upper 160s and low 170s, my brain is firmly settled in mid 160s. Just took PT67 and ended up with a 164.
LR: -6
AR: -4 (That last game threw me for a loop, had trouble processing the set up for a bit).
RC: -8

My pacing is pretty solid, the only thing that hangs me up in that regard is when AR has an unfamiliar scenario. Not giving up, but I'm getting to the point where I'll be okay with any RC score that gets me 20+ points. It'll be pretty disappointing if I get a mid 160 score knowing that at some point I was capable of considerably better than that. :\

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Post by appind » Wed Sep 07, 2016 3:44 pm

ponderingmeerkat wrote:
appind wrote:Guise,

I posted this a few pages back but it's got buried in the posts since.

I'm having trouble seeing the correctness of credited choice of 77.rc.q1. anyone understand this?

[+] Spoiler
Psg only supports that ftp's nunits came closer to founding national black theatre than anyone else, not that they did found one. C says it founded perhaps a national black theatre. I eliminated C due to this distinction.
Hey guy, so now that I've knocked out this PT, time to look at this.
[+] Spoiler
As I see it, answer C leaves itself an "escape clause" from this argument by using the "perhaps" verbiage. Meaning, "maybe they did and maybe they didn't. It's possible." It's not like there's a black line drawn on a map somewhere that, once you cross it, you are officially labeled a "national theater". It's a spectrum with a lot of grey...but, they were in 28 states. Some might say they classify as national. Others might disagree. But, we can all agree they came close. "Perhaps" they made the first national theater program.

(You can also solve this by POE because all the other answers are way wrong.)
Interesting stuff
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Yeah I saw "perhaps" but had an issue with the connotation of language in the psg. I posted the following earlier about it.

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I thought "came closer to founding X than anyone else" has a connotation or inference that they attempted and came close but didn't really found X. So it seems a leap to say that it's same as " founded perhaps what was X", which has an opposite connotation which is that they likely founded X.
I dont know, is this a settled issue about connotation of the stmt in the passage?
Im not sure if there is consensus on whether these two statements are same in meaning or have opposite connotation among experts, but I thought the latter. I see why other choices are no good, but MP questions have such choices that are eliminatable per lsac standards if the two statements above don't have exactly the same meaning.
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Also the psg says "until recently, nunits were little studied". Assuming this to mean that nunits are studied well or recognized now, which C says, will be a mistaken negation of what passage says. I mean, the passage describes good things about nunits but that doesnt mean they are being recognized now.

these things made me feel not so good about this q. This is fun anyway.

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Post by Mikey » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:12 pm

i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc

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Post by Instrumental » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:14 pm

TheMikey wrote:i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc
Same but replace it with LR.

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Post by Mikey » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:27 pm

Instrumental wrote:
TheMikey wrote:i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc
Same but replace it with LR.
i'll trade RC for anything. all level 5 difficulty lr section, 4 extremely tough additional lg games anything. fuck rc.

i'll do like 10 writing samples and have my hand cramping tf up in place of rc

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:31 pm

TheMikey wrote:
Instrumental wrote:
TheMikey wrote:i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc
Same but replace it with LR.
i'll trade RC for anything. all level 5 difficulty lr section, 4 extremely tough additional lg games anything. fuck rc.

i'll do like 10 writing samples and have my hand cramping tf up in place of rc

I've just accepted that I'm gonna miss 3 RC on test day. I accept my fate.

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Post by Mikey » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:34 pm

SweetTort wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Instrumental wrote:
TheMikey wrote:i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc
Same but replace it with LR.
i'll trade RC for anything. all level 5 difficulty lr section, 4 extremely tough additional lg games anything. fuck rc.

i'll do like 10 writing samples and have my hand cramping tf up in place of rc

I've just accepted that I'm gonna miss 3 RC on test day. I accept my fate.
shit, i wish -3 was my worst on rc :( i've never even hit -3 before on rc lol

here just hoping something clicks for rc..

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:34 pm

TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Instrumental wrote:
TheMikey wrote:i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc
Same but replace it with LR.
i'll trade RC for anything. all level 5 difficulty lr section, 4 extremely tough additional lg games anything. fuck rc.

i'll do like 10 writing samples and have my hand cramping tf up in place of rc

I've just accepted that I'm gonna miss 3 RC on test day. I accept my fate.
shit, i wish -3 was my worst on rc :( i've never even hit -3 before on rc lol

here just hoping something clicks for rc..

Hopefully it clicks on test day. Tbh I'm starting to get super nervous about the day of.

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Post by Mikey » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:38 pm

SweetTort wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Instrumental wrote:
TheMikey wrote:i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc
Same but replace it with LR.
i'll trade RC for anything. all level 5 difficulty lr section, 4 extremely tough additional lg games anything. fuck rc.

i'll do like 10 writing samples and have my hand cramping tf up in place of rc

I've just accepted that I'm gonna miss 3 RC on test day. I accept my fate.
shit, i wish -3 was my worst on rc :( i've never even hit -3 before on rc lol

here just hoping something clicks for rc..

Hopefully it clicks on test day. Tbh I'm starting to get super nervous about the day of.
Don't be, you know this test front and back. I know I say shit like "i got $180 on you getting a 180" and tbh I know you can get a good ass score. just stay calm on test day (don't be a mikey), and kill it!

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Post by 20170322 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:41 pm

TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
SweetTort wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
Instrumental wrote:
TheMikey wrote:i truly FUCKING despise reading comp. just give me an extra LG section with all miscellaneous games instead. jfc
Same but replace it with LR.
i'll trade RC for anything. all level 5 difficulty lr section, 4 extremely tough additional lg games anything. fuck rc.

i'll do like 10 writing samples and have my hand cramping tf up in place of rc

I've just accepted that I'm gonna miss 3 RC on test day. I accept my fate.
shit, i wish -3 was my worst on rc :( i've never even hit -3 before on rc lol

here just hoping something clicks for rc..

Hopefully it clicks on test day. Tbh I'm starting to get super nervous about the day of.
Don't be, you know this test front and back. I know I say shit like "i got $180 on you getting a 180" and tbh I know you can get a good ass score. just stay calm on test day (don't be a mikey), and kill it!


Tbh, after deciding I'm cool with Harvard at sticker, I'm cool with anything above a 171.

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Post by Mikey » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:43 pm

SweetTort wrote:
Tbh, after deciding I'm cool with Harvard at sticker, I'm cool with anything above a 171.
are you still going to try to gun for that dillard scholly?

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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