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Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:31 pm

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RZ5646 wrote:Seconding the thing about wanting to quit everything else and just study for the LSAT. If you're in school and/or working there's no way you'll reach the same peak score as if you had no responsibilities besides prepping. That's one of the reasons people say standardized tests are biased in favor of the wealthy.
Let's be real though: basically nobody studies for the LSAT 40 hours a week. Sure you'd have more time to allocate if you had less responsibilities other than the LSAT, but most high scorers work full-time or go to school full-time.
The argument about standardized tests favoring the wealthy is more about systemic poverty and k-12 education stunting educational growth for a lifetime.
Also blah blah blah causation argument blah blah blah.
If anybody is actually studying for the LSAT 40/hours a week, please chime in. It's completely unnecessary.
Dude, its not just the hours you study, but, the quality of studying in those hours. After being out from 7 to 5, it takes hell of a lot more out of you to do what you need to do from 5 to 10. Yes, Let's be real! Of course, there are others who are doing it, and that's a motivating factor. There are also more people who are not/cannot do it given these odds, but, we have to ignore that!

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:45 pm

lawjag2015 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Seconding the thing about wanting to quit everything else and just study for the LSAT. If you're in school and/or working there's no way you'll reach the same peak score as if you had no responsibilities besides prepping. That's one of the reasons people say standardized tests are biased in favor of the wealthy.
Let's be real though: basically nobody studies for the LSAT 40 hours a week. Sure you'd have more time to allocate if you had less responsibilities other than the LSAT, but most high scorers work full-time or go to school full-time.
The argument about standardized tests favoring the wealthy is more about systemic poverty and k-12 education stunting educational growth for a lifetime.
Also blah blah blah causation argument blah blah blah.
If anybody is actually studying for the LSAT 40/hours a week, please chime in. It's completely unnecessary.
Dude, its not just the hours you study, but, the quality of studying in those hours. After being out from 7 to 5, it takes hell of a lot more out of you to do what you need to do from 5 to 10. Yes, Let's be real! Of course, there are others who are doing it, and that's a motivating factor. There are also more people who are not/cannot do it given these odds, but, we have to ignore that!
You're not disagreeing with me, so yeah.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:47 pm

Dirigo wrote:
lawjag2015 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:Seconding the thing about wanting to quit everything else and just study for the LSAT. If you're in school and/or working there's no way you'll reach the same peak score as if you had no responsibilities besides prepping. That's one of the reasons people say standardized tests are biased in favor of the wealthy.
Let's be real though: basically nobody studies for the LSAT 40 hours a week. Sure you'd have more time to allocate if you had less responsibilities other than the LSAT, but most high scorers work full-time or go to school full-time.
The argument about standardized tests favoring the wealthy is more about systemic poverty and k-12 education stunting educational growth for a lifetime.
Also blah blah blah causation argument blah blah blah.
If anybody is actually studying for the LSAT 40/hours a week, please chime in. It's completely unnecessary.
Dude, its not just the hours you study, but, the quality of studying in those hours. After being out from 7 to 5, it takes hell of a lot more out of you to do what you need to do from 5 to 10. Yes, Let's be real! Of course, there are others who are doing it, and that's a motivating factor. There are also more people who are not/cannot do it given these odds, but, we have to ignore that!
You're not disagreeing with me, so yeah.
The difference is that you are making light of it!

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:48 pm

lawjag2015 wrote: The difference is that you are making light of it!
Please provide the quote where I made light of whatever you're referring to.
What am I making light of? Do you understand what that idiom means?

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:56 pm

"Let's be real though: basically nobody studies for the LSAT 40 hours a week. Sure you'd have more time to allocate if you had less responsibilities other than the LSAT, but most high scorers work full-time or go to school full-time."

Suggests that people who are working full-time do not have much reason to complain.


"The argument about standardized tests favoring the wealthy is more about systemic poverty and k-12 education stunting educational growth for a lifetime.
Also blah blah blah causation argument blah blah blah.
If anybody is actually studying for the LSAT 40/hours a week, please chime in. It's completely unnecessary."

How else would you read "blah blah causation argument blah blah blah"?

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:00 pm

You need to work on your RC skills. I was referring to the "standardized tests favor the wealthy" argument, which if you notice, I didn't completely disagree with.

I simply said that 40 hours a week of studying is insane and nobody actually does that even if they only have LSAT on their plate. I was reassuring and encouraging people who do work full time that a high score is attainable.

You're just looking for an issue when there isn't one. Calm thyself.

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Post by Yeezus » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:04 pm

Dirigo wrote:I simply said that 40 hours a week of studying is insane and nobody actually does that even if they only have LSAT on their plate. I was reassuring and encouraging people who do work full time that a high score is attainable.
I second that. I studied 4-5 hours a day for the most part.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:08 pm

Dirigo wrote:You need to work on your RC skills. I was referring to the "standardized tests favor the wealthy" argument, which if you notice, I didn't completely disagree with.

I simply said that 40 hours a week of studying is insane and nobody actually does that even if they only have LSAT on their plate. I was reassuring and encouraging people who do work full time that a high score is attainable.

You're just looking for an issue when there isn't one. Calm thyself.
I think you need to learn how to write! Clearly you did not mean what you wrote. You just side stepped and weakened what was being discussed and then started talking about how "40 hours a week of studying is insane and nobody actually does that".

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:12 pm

A fool is a fool.

Have you replicated your LG victory, GYG?

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Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:13 pm

gamerish wrote:Ladies, please.


I don't work but I don't study more than 2 or 3 hours a day. I get too mad at myself to do more.
My lady,

At least you are not dead tired during those 2 or 3 hours that you spend studying for LSAT everyday! :wink:

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Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:16 pm

Dirigo wrote:A fool is a fool.

Have you replicated your LG victory, GYG?
My point exactly!

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Post by a_parm » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:25 pm

gamerish wrote:Ladies, please.


I don't work but I don't study more than 2 or 3 hours a day. I get too mad at myself to do more.
I dont work either. Done with grad school as well. Still cant manage to study for more than 2 or 3 hrs. I do frown upon that though. Trying to build up mental stamina ASAP. Wish i could study 5 hrs MINIMUM.

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Post by Rigo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:26 pm

a_parm wrote:
gamerish wrote:Ladies, please.
I don't work but I don't study more than 2 or 3 hours a day. I get too mad at myself to do more.
I dont work either. Done with grad school as well. Still cant manage to study for more than 2 or 3 hrs. I do frown upon that though. Trying to build up mental stamina ASAP. Wish i could study 5 hrs MINIMUM.
Totally normal. Slow and steady wins the race.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by a_parm » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:27 pm

Dirigo wrote:
a_parm wrote:
gamerish wrote:Ladies, please.
I don't work but I don't study more than 2 or 3 hours a day. I get too mad at myself to do more.
I dont work either. Done with grad school as well. Still cant manage to study for more than 2 or 3 hrs. I do frown upon that though. Trying to build up mental stamina ASAP. Wish i could study 5 hrs MINIMUM.
Totally normal. Slow and steady wins the race.
Hopefully, or else i will be the same as my avatar on test day.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:31 pm

a_parm wrote:
gamerish wrote:Ladies, please.


I don't work but I don't study more than 2 or 3 hours a day. I get too mad at myself to do more.
I dont work either. Done with grad school as well. Still cant manage to study for more than 2 or 3 hrs. I do frown upon that though. Trying to build up mental stamina ASAP. Wish i could study 5 hrs MINIMUM.
Its also about knowing what you need to do, and that's where someone who has done it comes handy. Else you might just wonder if there is much merit to studying a lot.

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Post by TheWalkingDebt » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:49 pm

Combining reading, drills, review, etc, I will definitely be over 40 hours a week.

I literally have nothing else to do. I worked on campaigns where I am used to 80+ hours of work a week. I also have a below average GPA and need to dominate the test to get into a t14.

You know the only thing better than slow and steady, right? Fast and steady.

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Post by RZ5646 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:53 pm

campaignraiser wrote:Combining reading, drills, review, etc, I will definitely be over 40 hours a week.

I literally have nothing else to do. I worked on campaigns where I am used to 80+ hours of work a week. I also have a below average GPA and need to dominate the test to get into a t14.

You know the only thing better than slow and steady, right? Fast and steady.
You'll burn out.

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Post by NonTradLawHopeful » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:01 pm

I work full time and go to grad school part time...and try to study 2 hours for the LSAT each week day. I don't see it as a disadvantage, more like added motivation to keep up with the unemployed recent graduates!

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Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:50 pm

NonTradLawHopeful wrote:I work full time and go to grad school part time...and try to study 2 hours for the LSAT each week day. I don't see it as a disadvantage, more like added motivation to keep up with the unemployed recent graduates!
Good way of putting it!

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:52 pm

NonTradLawHopeful wrote:I work full time and go to grad school part time...and try to study 2 hours for the LSAT each week day. I don't see it as a disadvantage, more like added motivation to keep up with the unemployed recent graduates!
Good job NTLH. That's the way you do it. Keep up the hard work and discipline.
Glad you're looking at it positively rather than engaging in complaints.

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Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:05 pm

Dirigo wrote:
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:I work full time and go to grad school part time...and try to study 2 hours for the LSAT each week day. I don't see it as a disadvantage, more like added motivation to keep up with the unemployed recent graduates!
Good job NTLH. That's the way you do it. Keep up the hard work and discipline.
Glad you're looking at it positively rather than engaging in complaints.
Yes, the professor here works 60 hours a week himself! What a joke! It is for the guys who are in similar situations to commiserate.

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Post by Rigo » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:12 pm

lawjag2015 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:I work full time and go to grad school part time...and try to study 2 hours for the LSAT each week day. I don't see it as a disadvantage, more like added motivation to keep up with the unemployed recent graduates!
Good job NTLH. That's the way you do it. Keep up the hard work and discipline.
Glad you're looking at it positively rather than engaging in complaints.
Yes, the professor here works 60 hours a week himself! What a joke! It is for the guys who are in similar situations to commiserate.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Are you taking issue with my encouragement or are you wanting to let us all know you're a professor? So lost, dude.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by lawjag2015 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:20 pm

Dirigo wrote:
lawjag2015 wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
NonTradLawHopeful wrote:I work full time and go to grad school part time...and try to study 2 hours for the LSAT each week day. I don't see it as a disadvantage, more like added motivation to keep up with the unemployed recent graduates!
Good job NTLH. That's the way you do it. Keep up the hard work and discipline.
Glad you're looking at it positively rather than engaging in complaints.
Yes, the professor here works 60 hours a week himself! What a joke! It is for the guys who are in similar situations to commiserate.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Are you taking issue with my encouragement or are you wanting to let us all know you're a professor? So lost, dude.
A fool is a fool.

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