December 2012 Re-takers Forum

[Lenahan3]

NorthEastern just trolled the shit out of me...

Me too! All I could see was "North" and then the rest of it loaded.

*Sigh.

[Cobretti]

NorthEastern just trolled the shit out of me...

lol i like how you classify them sending any email to you as trolling

They knew what they were doing, don't defend them

Getting an email with the subject "Application Fee Waiver" from NU would have been so sweet...

[gguuueessttt]

The only schools I've gotten fee waivers from were schools I didn't plan to apply to. Looks like I'm going to be spending a grand on apps.

[rebexness]

[VeeD101]

logging on here during work hours freaks me out. I feel like everybody besides me is constantly studying. This is going to be an extremely emotional month.

[1TLStudent]

Hey can anyone tell me exactly why answer choice A on question 26 in section 3 of preptest 28 is wrong? I can see why D is right but I'm having trouble articulating what is wrong with choice A. Thanks.

On a happier note its the only question I missed in this section! Haha

[gguuueessttt]

The only schools I've gotten fee waivers from were schools I didn't plan to apply to. Looks like I'm going to be spending a grand on apps.

You know you can request Waivers, right? Not a guarantee, but every single one counts as savings.

How many schools are you applying to?

That's true reb. I'll probably request some in the next couple days.
I'm probably applying to 10-12 schools. I'm applying to several reaches because I'm planning on retaking the LSAT in Feb to hopefully get me off some wait lists. This is obviously a long shot, and might work at some schools but not others, so I'm applying to a bunch to have a better shot.

[Sugar Lumps]

logging on here during work hours freaks me out. I feel like everybody besides me is constantly studying. This is going to be an extremely emotional month.

Yep.

[sinfiery]

Hey can anyone tell me exactly why answer choice A on question 26 in section 3 of preptest 28 is wrong? I can see why D is right but I'm having trouble articulating what is wrong with choice A. Thanks.

On a happier note its the only question I missed in this section! Haha

Other countries are committing the logical deduction that the premise said is irrational. (Countering an argument by countering the person's actions giving that argument in relation to the argument)


A says it is irrational, so that is correct.

The reason why A decides the argument is irrational is different from the premise.
In the premise, the reasoning is "whether or not someone in fact heeds his own advice is irrelevent to wether that person's advice should be heeded."

A relies on the irrational logic as being logical and uses the consequences of said logic to create a scenario that is irrational.

D is correct because it directly follows that the reasoning that to dismiss the philosophers idea's based on his actions is irrational. The same argument the premise makes.

[Alorain]

logging on here during work hours freaks me out. I feel like everybody besides me is constantly studying. This is going to be an extremely emotional month.

I know that feel bro.

[Cobretti]

Hey can anyone tell me exactly why answer choice A on question 26 in section 3 of preptest 28 is wrong? I can see why D is right but I'm having trouble articulating what is wrong with choice A. Thanks.

On a happier note its the only question I missed in this section! Haha

I think it is because the reasoning for us making the same argument against them implicitly implies that we do give some credit to whether or not someone's actions affect the strength of their argument. If this argument assumed that people's actions have no affect on the strength of their argument then our response wouldn't make any sense.

[Sugar Lumps]

Finished PT 55 during down time at work. 169. Not bad for having two latina ladies screaming at each other in the background the whole time.

Optimism.

[GabeQuixote]

I mean business:

Prep Test 40 June 2003 11/3/2012
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Prep Test 42 December 2003 11/6/2012
Prep Test 43 June 2004 11/8/2012
Prep Test 44 October 2004 11/10/2012
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Prep Test 47 October 2005 11/5/2012
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Prep Test 49 June 2006 11/8/2012
Prep Test 50 October 2006 11/21/2012
Prep Test 51 December 2006 11/22/2012
Prep Test 55 October 2008 11/23/2012
Prep Test 56 December 2008 11/24/2012
Prep Test 66 June 2012 11/25/2012
Prep Test 67 October 2012 11/28/2012
Prep Test 68 December 2012 12/1/2012

Logic Games, 97 7:00 11/1/2012
Logic Games, A 7:00 11/1/2012
Logic Games, B 7:00 11/2/2012
Logic Games, C 7:00 11/2/2012
Logic Games, 1 7:00 11/3/2012
Logic Games, 2 7:00 11/3/2012
Logic Games, 3 7:00 11/4/2012
Logic Games, 4 7:00 11/4/2012
Logic Games, 5 7:00 11/5/2012
Logic Games, 6 7:00 11/5/2012
Logic Games, 7 7:00 11/6/2012
Logic Games, 8 7:00 11/6/2012
Logic Games, 9 7:00 11/7/2012
Logic Games, 10 7:00 11/7/2012
Logic Games, 11 7:00 11/8/2012
Logic Games, 12 7:00 11/8/2012
Logic Games, 13 7:00 11/9/2012
Logic Games, 14 7:00 11/9/2012
Logic Games, 15 7:00 11/10/2012
Logic Games, 16 7:00 11/10/2012
Logic Games, 17 14:00 11/11/2012
Logic Games, 18 14:00 11/11/2012
Logic Games, 19 14:00 11/12/2012
Logic Games, 20 14:00 11/12/2012
Logic Games, 21 14:00 11/13/2012
Logic Games, 22 14:00 11/13/2012
Logic Games, 23 14:00 11/14/2012
Logic Games, 24 14:00 11/14/2012
Logic Games, 25 14:00 11/15/2012
Logic Games, 26 14:00 11/15/2012
Logic Games, 27 14:00 11/16/2012
Logic Games, 28 14:00 11/16/2012
Logic Games, 29 14:00 11/17/2012
Logic Games, 30 14:00 11/17/2012
Logic Games, 31 14:00 11/18/2012
Logic Games, 32 14:00 11/18/2012
Logic Games, 33 14:00 11/19/2012
Logic Games, 34 14:00 11/19/2012
Logic Games, 35 14:00 11/20/2012
Logic Games, 36 14:00 11/20/2012
Logic Games, 37 21:00 11/21/2012
Logic Games, 38 21:00 11/21/2012
Logic Games, 39 21:00 11/22/2012
Logic Games, 2007 21:00 11/22/2012

Reading Comprehension, 97 7:00 11/1/2012
Reading Comprehension, A 7:00 11/1/2012
Reading Comprehension, B 7:00 11/2/2012
Reading Comprehension, C 7:00 11/2/2012
Reading Comprehension, 1 7:00 11/3/2012
Reading Comprehension, 2 7:00 11/3/2012
Reading Comprehension, 3 7:00 11/4/2012
Reading Comprehension, 4 7:00 11/4/2012
Reading Comprehension, 5 7:00 11/5/2012
Reading Comprehension, 6 7:00 11/5/2012
Reading Comprehension, 7 7:00 11/6/2012
Reading Comprehension, 8 7:00 11/6/2012
Reading Comprehension, 9 7:00 11/7/2012
Reading Comprehension, 10 7:00 11/7/2012
Reading Comprehension, 11 7:00 11/8/2012
Reading Comprehension, 12 7:00 11/8/2012
Reading Comprehension, 13 7:00 11/9/2012
Reading Comprehension, 14 7:00 11/9/2012
Reading Comprehension, 15 7:00 11/10/2012
Reading Comprehension, 16 7:00 11/10/2012
Reading Comprehension, 17 14:00 11/11/2012
Reading Comprehension, 18 14:00 11/11/2012
Reading Comprehension, 19 14:00 11/12/2012
Reading Comprehension, 20 14:00 11/12/2012
Reading Comprehension, 21 14:00 11/13/2012
Reading Comprehension, 22 14:00 11/13/2012
Reading Comprehension, 23 14:00 11/14/2012
Reading Comprehension, 24 14:00 11/14/2012
Reading Comprehension, 25 14:00 11/15/2012
Reading Comprehension, 26 14:00 11/15/2012
Reading Comprehension, 27 14:00 11/16/2012
Reading Comprehension, 28 14:00 11/16/2012
Reading Comprehension, 29 14:00 11/17/2012
Reading Comprehension, 30 14:00 11/17/2012
Reading Comprehension, 31 14:00 11/18/2012
Reading Comprehension, 32 14:00 11/18/2012
Reading Comprehension, 33 14:00 11/19/2012
Reading Comprehension, 34 14:00 11/19/2012
Reading Comprehension, 35 14:00 11/20/2012
Reading Comprehension, 36 14:00 11/20/2012
Reading Comprehension, 37 21:00 11/21/2012
Reading Comprehension, 38 21:00 11/21/2012
Reading Comprehension, 39 21:00 11/22/2012
Reading Comprehension, '07 21:00 11/22/2012

7:00 = 1 Passage/Game in 7:00
14:00 = 2 Passages/Games in 14:00
21:00 = 3 Passages/Games in 21:00

[rebexness]

[gguuueessttt]

I mean business:

Prep Test 40 June 2003 11/3/2012
Prep Test 41 September 2003 11/4/2012
Prep Test 42 December 2003 11/6/2012
Prep Test 43 June 2004 11/8/2012
Prep Test 44 October 2004 11/10/2012
Prep Test 45 December 2004 11/11/2012
Prep Test 46 June 2005 11/13/2012
Prep Test 47 October 2005 11/5/2012
Prep Test 48 December 2005 11/7/2012
Prep Test 49 June 2006 11/8/2012
Prep Test 50 October 2006 11/21/2012
Prep Test 51 December 2006 11/22/2012
Prep Test 55 October 2008 11/23/2012
Prep Test 56 December 2008 11/24/2012
Prep Test 66 June 2012 11/25/2012
Prep Test 67 October 2012 11/28/2012
Prep Test 68 December 2012 12/1/2012

Logic Games, 97 7:00 11/1/2012
Logic Games, A 7:00 11/1/2012
Logic Games, B 7:00 11/2/2012
Logic Games, C 7:00 11/2/2012
Logic Games, 1 7:00 11/3/2012
Logic Games, 2 7:00 11/3/2012
Logic Games, 3 7:00 11/4/2012
Logic Games, 4 7:00 11/4/2012
Logic Games, 5 7:00 11/5/2012
Logic Games, 6 7:00 11/5/2012
Logic Games, 7 7:00 11/6/2012
Logic Games, 8 7:00 11/6/2012
Logic Games, 9 7:00 11/7/2012
Logic Games, 10 7:00 11/7/2012
Logic Games, 11 7:00 11/8/2012
Logic Games, 12 7:00 11/8/2012
Logic Games, 13 7:00 11/9/2012
Logic Games, 14 7:00 11/9/2012
Logic Games, 15 7:00 11/10/2012
Logic Games, 16 7:00 11/10/2012
Logic Games, 17 14:00 11/11/2012
Logic Games, 18 14:00 11/11/2012
Logic Games, 19 14:00 11/12/2012
Logic Games, 20 14:00 11/12/2012
Logic Games, 21 14:00 11/13/2012
Logic Games, 22 14:00 11/13/2012
Logic Games, 23 14:00 11/14/2012
Logic Games, 24 14:00 11/14/2012
Logic Games, 25 14:00 11/15/2012
Logic Games, 26 14:00 11/15/2012
Logic Games, 27 14:00 11/16/2012
Logic Games, 28 14:00 11/16/2012
Logic Games, 29 14:00 11/17/2012
Logic Games, 30 14:00 11/17/2012
Logic Games, 31 14:00 11/18/2012
Logic Games, 32 14:00 11/18/2012
Logic Games, 33 14:00 11/19/2012
Logic Games, 34 14:00 11/19/2012
Logic Games, 35 14:00 11/20/2012
Logic Games, 36 14:00 11/20/2012
Logic Games, 37 21:00 11/21/2012
Logic Games, 38 21:00 11/21/2012
Logic Games, 39 21:00 11/22/2012
Logic Games, 2007 21:00 11/22/2012

Reading Comprehension, 97 7:00 11/1/2012
Reading Comprehension, A 7:00 11/1/2012
Reading Comprehension, B 7:00 11/2/2012
Reading Comprehension, C 7:00 11/2/2012
Reading Comprehension, 1 7:00 11/3/2012
Reading Comprehension, 2 7:00 11/3/2012
Reading Comprehension, 3 7:00 11/4/2012
Reading Comprehension, 4 7:00 11/4/2012
Reading Comprehension, 5 7:00 11/5/2012
Reading Comprehension, 6 7:00 11/5/2012
Reading Comprehension, 7 7:00 11/6/2012
Reading Comprehension, 8 7:00 11/6/2012
Reading Comprehension, 9 7:00 11/7/2012
Reading Comprehension, 10 7:00 11/7/2012
Reading Comprehension, 11 7:00 11/8/2012
Reading Comprehension, 12 7:00 11/8/2012
Reading Comprehension, 13 7:00 11/9/2012
Reading Comprehension, 14 7:00 11/9/2012
Reading Comprehension, 15 7:00 11/10/2012
Reading Comprehension, 16 7:00 11/10/2012
Reading Comprehension, 17 14:00 11/11/2012
Reading Comprehension, 18 14:00 11/11/2012
Reading Comprehension, 19 14:00 11/12/2012
Reading Comprehension, 20 14:00 11/12/2012
Reading Comprehension, 21 14:00 11/13/2012
Reading Comprehension, 22 14:00 11/13/2012
Reading Comprehension, 23 14:00 11/14/2012
Reading Comprehension, 24 14:00 11/14/2012
Reading Comprehension, 25 14:00 11/15/2012
Reading Comprehension, 26 14:00 11/15/2012
Reading Comprehension, 27 14:00 11/16/2012
Reading Comprehension, 28 14:00 11/16/2012
Reading Comprehension, 29 14:00 11/17/2012
Reading Comprehension, 30 14:00 11/17/2012
Reading Comprehension, 31 14:00 11/18/2012
Reading Comprehension, 32 14:00 11/18/2012
Reading Comprehension, 33 14:00 11/19/2012
Reading Comprehension, 34 14:00 11/19/2012
Reading Comprehension, 35 14:00 11/20/2012
Reading Comprehension, 36 14:00 11/20/2012
Reading Comprehension, 37 21:00 11/21/2012
Reading Comprehension, 38 21:00 11/21/2012
Reading Comprehension, 39 21:00 11/22/2012
Reading Comprehension, '07 21:00 11/22/2012

7:00 = 1 Passage/Game in 7:00
14:00 = 2 Passages/Games in 14:00
21:00 = 3 Passages/Games in 21:00

Sounds like a great plan! Are you not drilling LR?

[GabeQuixote]

Sounds like a great plan! Are you not drilling LR?

If I had gone -0 on LG and RC I would have scored:

December 2011: 175
October 2012: 179

For LR I plan on minor drilling for:

-Weaken
-Must Be True
-Parallel Reasoning

If I take a game or passage in 7 minutes you not only improve your reading skills and timing -- you can DO IT ANYWHERE.

[ph5354a]

Does anyone have any great test day-anxiety tips? I was scoring between -8 and -12 on the PTs but got a -15 on test day, largely due to timing issues on RC and LG that I had never experienced before. My practice is going to focus on getting timing down for the hardest RC and LG passages/games, but I also need to address anxiety issues so it doesn't happen again on test day.

Any thoughts?

[Sugar Lumps]

Does anyone have any great test day-anxiety tips? I was scoring between -8 and -12 on the PTs but got a -15 on test day, largely due to timing issues on RC and LG that I had never experienced before. My practice is going to focus on getting timing down for the hardest RC and LG passages/games, but I also need to address anxiety issues so it doesn't happen again on test day.

Any thoughts?

I've struggled with test day anxiety before. What tends to calm me down from any anxiety is a combination of Neuro Bliss and an herbal supplement called Gaba. Not sure if you have access to either, but you could give it a shot before a PT and see if/how it affects your performance.

[gguuueessttt]

Sounds like a great plan! Are you not drilling LR?

If I had gone -0 on LG and RC I would have scored:

December 2011: 175
October 2012: 179

For LR I plan on minor drilling for:

-Weaken
-Must Be True
-Parallel Reasoning

If I take a game or passage in 7 minutes you not only improve your reading skills and timing -- you can DO IT ANYWHERE.

I'd be careful with that. I was consistently getting -0 or -1 on RC on PTs so I barely studied it for October. It ended up being by far my worst section.

Lots of people slip in their best sections if they don't drill enough.

[Cobretti]

Finished PT 55 during down time at work. 169. Not bad for having two latina ladies screaming at each other in the background the whole time.

Optimism.

Very nice, congrats. I've been experimenting with ridiculously loud music while I drill to try and improve my concentration too. I hate it so much, but I guess it works.

[Cobretti]

Does anyone have any great test day-anxiety tips? I was scoring between -8 and -12 on the PTs but got a -15 on test day, largely due to timing issues on RC and LG that I had never experienced before. My practice is going to focus on getting timing down for the hardest RC and LG passages/games, but I also need to address anxiety issues so it doesn't happen again on test day.

Any thoughts?

I've struggled with test day anxiety before. What tends to calm me down from any anxiety is a combination of Neuro Bliss and an herbal supplement called Gaba. Not sure if you have access to either, but you could give it a shot before a PT and see if/how it affects your performance.

Serious note, I wouldn't use any medication (herbal or otherwise) on test day unless it is something I had been taking for a long time and knew exactly how it would affect me. Especially something that could make you sluggish like this.

[Sugar Lumps]

Does anyone have any great test day-anxiety tips? I was scoring between -8 and -12 on the PTs but got a -15 on test day, largely due to timing issues on RC and LG that I had never experienced before. My practice is going to focus on getting timing down for the hardest RC and LG passages/games, but I also need to address anxiety issues so it doesn't happen again on test day.

Any thoughts?

I've struggled with test day anxiety before. What tends to calm me down from any anxiety is a combination of Neuro Bliss and an herbal supplement called Gaba. Not sure if you have access to either, but you could give it a shot before a PT and see if/how it affects your performance.

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Serious note, I wouldn't use any medication (herbal or otherwise) on test day unless it is something I had been taking for a long time and knew exactly how it would affect me. Especially something that could make you sluggish like this.

Dat experimentation.

[steel_shot]

I'm writing this Saturday but I felt I'd jump in!

I've re taken:

PT 50 (from 5 months ago): 168 >_< RC hurt me on this one at -7, but I've tried to think a little more while reading and it seems to be helping!

PT 60 (from 2 months ago): 171, I'm okay with this, the games section I went -3, as well as RC and LR1, but did a bit better with only -1 on LR2. Mostly stupid mistakes from not studying for almost a month.

I also took 57 (fresh) today, and I felt horrible after it. Dinos killed me, and I felt like shit about both LR sections. I'm going to blind review after a bit of a break. I'll then take 65 Thursday as my last fresh PT, with game day Saturday. Hopefully this will be a bit easier than October!

[Cobretti]

Does anyone have any great test day-anxiety tips? I was scoring between -8 and -12 on the PTs but got a -15 on test day, largely due to timing issues on RC and LG that I had never experienced before. My practice is going to focus on getting timing down for the hardest RC and LG passages/games, but I also need to address anxiety issues so it doesn't happen again on test day.

Any thoughts?

I've struggled with test day anxiety before. What tends to calm me down from any anxiety is a combination of Neuro Bliss and an herbal supplement called Gaba. Not sure if you have access to either, but you could give it a shot before a PT and see if/how it affects your performance.

[/img]

Serious note, I wouldn't use any medication (herbal or otherwise) on test day unless it is something I had been taking for a long time and knew exactly how it would affect me. Especially something that could make you sluggish like this.

Dat experimentation.

You're in to... experimentation?

[Cobretti]

I'm writing this Saturday but I felt I'd jump in!

I've re taken:

PT 50 (from 5 months ago): 168 >_< RC hurt me on this one at -7, but I've tried to think a little more while reading and it seems to be helping!

PT 60 (from 2 months ago): 171, I'm okay with this, the games section I went -3, as well as RC and LR1, but did a bit better with only -1 on LR2. Mostly stupid mistakes from not studying for almost a month.

I also took 57 (fresh) today, and I felt horrible after it. Dinos killed me, and I felt like shit about both LR sections. I'm going to blind review after a bit of a break. I'll then take 65 Thursday as my last fresh PT, with game day Saturday. Hopefully this will be a bit easier than October!

This saturday? So those people that got their tests lost and were invited to retake on the 10th was a real thing?