The Official February 2015 Study Group Forum

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:49 pm

kang wrote:
Big Red wrote:
I'm actually trying to find melatonin that comes in either 1g or .5g doses since anything higher wakes me up in the middle of the night, but so far no luck.

Feel really bad for people who test on like 3 hours
higher doses makes you wake up?

There was a really good post on it either ITT or somewhere else on TLS... if you find it can you link it for me maybe?

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:49 pm

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kang · Post by **kang** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:49 pm

Big Red wrote:
kang wrote:So, the test day is approaching pretty quickly! What are you guys doing to prepare?
Trying to actually finish Manhattan LR

As in their drills? I'm going to try to get through all the drills before DDay. I don't know if thats possible though...

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:53 pm

kang wrote:
Big Red wrote:
kang wrote:So, the test day is approaching pretty quickly! What are you guys doing to prepare?
Trying to actually finish Manhattan LR
As in their drills? I'm going to try to get through all the drills before DDay. I don't know if thats possible though...

yeah, like all that stuff I told myself I'd do later when I was feeling particularly lsat yolo

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:56 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:My setup

[img]desksetup[/img]

really bro... Mechanical pencil...? where them ticons at??

NL2424 · Post by **NL2424** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:57 pm

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:01 pm

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Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:03 pm

gamerish wrote:I use mechanical pencils. I hate wood pencils.

outed as not outed

ty ty, I'll be here for 21 more days

NL2424 · Post by **NL2424** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:04 pm

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:07 pm

Smallville wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:My setup

[img]desksetup[/img]
really bro... Mechanical pencil...? where them ticons at??

The ticons are allllll in that cup next to my laptop... check if ya want

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:09 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:
Smallville wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:My setup

[img]desksetup[/img]
really bro... Mechanical pencil...? where them ticons at??
The ticons are allllll in that cup next to my laptop... check if ya want

but it looks like ur prepping without them (obvi flawed since based off a single picture)

Smallville · Post by **Smallville** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:09 pm

zacboro wrote:I've been using mechanical pencil, you're not allowed to on the test though right??

STOP THAT! lol nope, real pencils only, go get urself some nice ticons or something

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:10 pm

zacboro wrote:I've been using mechanical pencil, you're not allowed to on the test though right??

nope, and if you see anyone try to use them on test day you have a TLS obligation (agreed upon @ account creation) to observe and report back

NL2424 · Post by **NL2424** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:12 pm

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:13 pm

Smallville wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:
Smallville wrote:
ilikebaseball wrote:My setup

[img]desksetup[/img]
really bro... Mechanical pencil...? where them ticons at??
The ticons are allllll in that cup next to my laptop... check if ya want
but it looks like ur prepping without them (obvi flawed since based off a single picture)

For drilling I use mechanical (which is what I'm doing today as you can see cuz I'm using the Difficult Questions packet. But PT's I only use ticons. I'm just trying to take LR slow and steady today since these questions are pretty tough. Not worrying about anything else

NL2424 · Post by **NL2424** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:17 pm

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:22 pm

zacboro wrote:Guys I don't want to start a big discussion about this but sometimes I think ~~everyone~~ most people on TLS take "simulating test day conditions" a little bit too seriously during their prep. I agree with doing prep in the library, but sometimes the things people suggest are outlandish. "Yeah, I actually reserved a classroom and hired 32 other people to take PTs around me during all of my PTs. You really have to simulate test day conditions as much as possible if you want your prep to be worth it."

ETA: had to adjust a modifier.

what? who said that? lol

and if you haven't taken the test before, you probably don't realize how important it is. On test day, whether you like it or not, you'll be a bit different. On PT's, sometimes you can just circle an AC and move on, because in the back of your mind you're thinking "I'll definitely review this one after to make sure my thought process was correct."

On test day, you dont get to do this. You're thinking along the lines of "wow, if i miss this, I'm gonna drop an entire point and may not get into top choice law school." You are FAR more deliberate. Which is why I, personally, think the 32 minute section thing is so beneficial. The 3 decreased minutes serve as the "extra deliberation time" you'll inevitably be taking on gameday. There is NO way to simulate test conditions perfectly, but if you make PT conditions as tough as possible, test conditions will seem a bit easier.

I don't think you should "hire people to PT around you." That's a bit outlandish. But, testing in less than ideal conditions, having quicker section times, taking more than 5 sections, testing with smaller curves, etc is a great way to simulate it imo. Prepare for the absolute worst. Make gameday as smooth as possible.

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:23 pm

zacboro wrote:Guys I don't want to start a big discussion about this but sometimes I think ~~everyone~~ most people on TLS take "simulating test day conditions" a little bit too seriously during their prep. I agree with doing prep in the library, but sometimes the things people suggest are outlandish. "Yeah, I actually reserved a classroom and hired 32 other people to take PTs around me during all of my PTs. You really have to simulate test day conditions as much as possible if you want your prep to be worth it."

ETA: had to adjust a modifier.

I think it's pretty fair to say the two main reasons people drop points are 1) lack of sleep or 2) not being ready for test conditions. Like, if you haven't been using an answer sheet and factoring in that time/process, it's going to affect you. Like, if you've been giving yourself 20 minutes bt. section 3/4 or taking 5 minutes from section to section, it's going to affect you. If you haven't taken the test in a weird room with a loud AC or something, it might affect you. If you haven't woken up at 6:30 and gone through the routine, it might affect you.

m27 · Post by **m27** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:25 pm

zacboro wrote:Guys I don't want to start a big discussion about this but sometimes I think ~~everyone~~ most people on TLS take "simulating test day conditions" a little bit too seriously during their prep. I agree with doing prep in the library, but sometimes the things people suggest are outlandish. "Yeah, I actually reserved a classroom and hired 32 other people to take PTs around me during all of my PTs. You really have to simulate test day conditions as much as possible if you want your prep to be worth it."

ETA: had to adjust a modifier.

That example is a tad extreme lol. But I do think it's a good move to take practice exams in a library, or in some other quiet, but not completely quiet place. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.

Believe it or not, in the beginning of my prep I only used mechanical pencils and when I switched over to ticons it was a huge difference (for me at least). Mainly because they dull quicker and not as neat as mechanical pencils, especially for logic games. As a result I only use my smexy ticons

NL2424 · Post by **NL2424** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:27 pm

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:29 pm

Does economist really help those that use it? Like, can you honestly say that it has helped you increase your RC score? Because there are no questions. It seems to me like its just dense passages. i just dont see how this could help THAT much with the material.

Honest opinions lol. I dont wanna shell out the money and read them everyday for 21 days if it isn't that helpful.

Big Red · Post by **Big Red** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:31 pm

zacboro wrote:Like I said I didn't want to start a discussion. For the record I agree with both of you. I was just making a comment.

I mean that's going to start a discussion because it comes off as, 'just PT in your room and you'll be fine.' Honestly, I've found pretty much all the "tls hivemind" stuff about studying for the lsat to be sound - and if I do score better in Feb I feel like I owe it to the board to make sure the good advice is what's highlighted on the board.

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:34 pm

zacboro wrote:Like I said I didn't want to start a discussion. For the record I agree with both of you. I was just making a comment.

its not a big deal or anything. I was more along the lines of trying to help you in case you WERENT trying to simulate them. If you are, you're fine.

NL2424 · Post by **NL2424** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:42 pm

ilikebaseball · Post by **ilikebaseball** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:12 pm

ilikebaseball wrote:Does economist really help those that use it? Like, can you honestly say that it has helped you increase your RC score? Because there are no questions. It seems to me like its just dense passages. i just dont see how this could help THAT much with the material.

Honest opinions lol. I dont wanna shell out the money and read them everyday for 21 days if it isn't that helpful.

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