The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:34 pm

I don't think I'll even apply to Yale. It seems like getting into YS is basically the same as getting into YS college: you need to be a special snowflake. All the other schools are numbers-based.

lollsat · Post by **lollsat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:59 pm

Anyone here have burnout before? Ugh it's weird it's like I can't look at a single LR question anymore without losing motivation/focus and reviewing has become extremely boring and tiring, I keep wanting to just go to sleep. Contrast this with just 2 weeks ago where I was so happy, doing quality studying 5+ hours a day without any problem whatsoever. I took a week off but it still feels so tiresome and frustrating, I'm down to only being able to review 1 LR section a day.

Anyone experienced this, is it burnout? Maybe I should go take a vacation from LSAT for a longer time period.

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:01 pm

Rigo wrote:I'll be in New Haven this week. I'll let you know if Yale does in fact exist.

Plz also update us on your date.

ETA: Valentine's Day was spent at YLS by yours truly and GT. Can confirm YLS does not exist. Is this the start of the new SkakaTee??

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:06 pm

lollsat wrote:Anyone here have burnout before? Ugh it's weird it's like I can't look at a single LR question anymore without losing motivation/focus and reviewing has become extremely boring and tiring, I keep wanting to just go to sleep. Contrast this with just 2 weeks ago where I was so happy, doing quality studying 5+ hours a day without any problem whatsoever. I took a week off but it still feels so tiresome and frustrating, I'm down to only being able to review 1 LR section a day. Anyone experienced this, is it burnout? Maybe I should go take a vacation from LSAT for a longer time period.

Work through the burnout and fatigue, then take a rest day or two. If you're stopping every time you hit that mental wall of burnout, your body won't be trained properly for any potential burn out you might experience on test day! I don't know the extent of your situation rn, but if you feel like you're getting splitting headaches from studying, vs. just feeling lazy and resigned to the LOLSAT, then definitely take a break. The burn out is a spectrum - if you're on the far right, take a break and stop. If you're just entering the on ramp of burn out, stick it through.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:07 pm

Mind you, I'm not going for the purpose of touring Yale like you weirdos.

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:08 pm

Rigo wrote:Mind you, I'm not going for the purpose of touring Yale like you weirdos.

Oh, I'm sure you'll be giving your date a tour!

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:09 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:
Rigo wrote:Mind you, I'm not going for the purpose of touring Yale like you weirdos.
Oh, I'm sure you'll be giving your date a tour!

If anything, it will the the other way around.

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:12 pm

Rigo wrote:
Shakawkaw wrote:
Rigo wrote:Mind you, I'm not going for the purpose of touring Yale like you weirdos.
Oh, I'm sure you'll be giving your date a tour!
If anything, it will the the other way around.

I hear the Eiffel tower is wonderful this time of year.

Blueprint Ben · Post by **Blueprint Ben** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:17 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:
lollsat wrote:Anyone here have burnout before? Ugh it's weird it's like I can't look at a single LR question anymore without losing motivation/focus and reviewing has become extremely boring and tiring, I keep wanting to just go to sleep. Contrast this with just 2 weeks ago where I was so happy, doing quality studying 5+ hours a day without any problem whatsoever. I took a week off but it still feels so tiresome and frustrating, I'm down to only being able to review 1 LR section a day. Anyone experienced this, is it burnout? Maybe I should go take a vacation from LSAT for a longer time period.
Work through the burnout and fatigue, then take a rest day or two. If you're stopping every time you hit that mental wall of burnout, your body won't be trained properly for any potential burn out you might experience on test day! I don't know the extent of your situation rn, but if you feel like you're getting splitting headaches from studying, vs. just feeling lazy and resigned to the LOLSAT, then definitely take a break. The burn out is a spectrum - if you're on the far right, take a break and stop. If you're just entering the on ramp of burn out, stick it through.

I totally agree.

I think you need to try and separate emotional burn out from physical burn out. We all (hopefully) know what it feels like to have an LSAT headache, right? It's that sort of throbbing soreness, and you don't feel sharp. It gets worse when you try to focus hard on anything--especially LSAT related. A very familiar condition for anyone who's been studying for a while, I'm sure. But then there's the "Ughhhh this is TSO boring I hate it and I don't want to do it anymore" kind of burn out. That's the kind of burn out that you need to suck it up and push through.

So, if you have the classic LSAT headache, and you're really having trouble focusing because it feels like your brain muscles are sore, then take more time off. During that time, focus on sleeping a lot, relaxing, exercising, and recalibrating your mindset so that you can hit the ground running when your rest period is over. If you're experiencing the emotional kind of burn out, you don't necessarily need to take time off, but you definitely need to take a moment to remind yourself why you're doing this. Studying for the LSAT is meaningful work, in the sense that your effort has a guaranteed, direct, and significant return (chasing dreams/chasing dolla billz). So take out your journal or whatever, and write down all of the reasons why the suck is totally 100% worth it.

lollsat · Post by **lollsat** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:24 pm

Yeah both Shakawkaw and Bp Ben hit the nail on the head. It's definitely emotional burnout, "Ughhhh this is SO boring I hate it and I don't want to do it anymore" this is EXACTLY how I feel! I've never studied for one thing for such a long period of time. Lol Bp Ben those were my exact thoughts this morning when I was reviewing LR

Thanks for the advice guys, definitely emotional burnout.

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:40 pm

At a local library and they have the Princeton Review LSAT book from 2012. Decided to open it up and just see what it's like. First page I open to says the following, and I'm quoting verbatim:
"Many people feel they have to score at least a 160 to get into a "good" law school. That's pure myth."
Really thankful I discovered TLS.

Shakawkaw · Post by **Shakawkaw** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:42 pm

lollsat wrote:Yeah both Shakawkaw and Bp Ben hit the nail on the head. It's definitely emotional burnout, "Ughhhh this is SO boring I hate it and I don't want to do it anymore" this is EXACTLY how I feel! I've never studied for one thing for such a long period of time. Lol Bp Ben those were my exact thoughts this morning when I was reviewing LR Thanks for the advice guys, definitely emotional burnout.

Definitely get where you're coming from. It's hard, when you're self studying, to keep at it because it's very easy to, well - stop working. That's why the study forums are an invaluable resource. We can keep you accountable

Keep chugging along!

Hi, BP Ben.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:57 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:
Rigo wrote:
Shakawkaw wrote:
Rigo wrote:Mind you, I'm not going for the purpose of touring Yale like you weirdos.
Oh, I'm sure you'll be giving your date a tour!
If anything, it will the the other way around.
I hear the Eiffel tower is wonderful this time of year.

Way to make something innocent inappropriate. Enjoy servicing your sticker debt.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:07 pm

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TheProdigal · Post by **TheProdigal** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:16 pm

gamerish wrote:
179orBust wrote:At a local library and they have the Princeton Review LSAT book from 2012. Decided to open it up and just see what it's like. First page I open to says the following, and I'm quoting verbatim:
"Many people feel they have to score at least a 160 to get into a "good" law school. That's pure myth."
Really thankful I discovered TLS.
The advisors at my school say the same about a 140.

Rofl.

Ain't Cooley y'all's hometown school? Maybe they're getting kickbacks.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:34 pm

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TheProdigal · Post by **TheProdigal** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:43 pm

I know. Cooley has a Tampa campus, doesn't it?

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:00 pm

TheProdigal wrote:I know. Cooley has a Tampa campus, doesn't it?

Yessir.

TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:32 pm

gamerish wrote:No, I go to school in Florida. Barry is repped to high heavens around here. I've overheard UF being compared favorably to Harvard a depressing amount of times.

I've heard "Harvard of the South" too many times also.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:33 pm

TheWalkingDebt wrote:
gamerish wrote:No, I go to school in Florida. Barry is repped to high heavens around here. I've overheard UF being compared favorably to Harvard a depressing amount of times.
I've heard "Harvard of the South" too many times also.

Haha that's hilarious because there are so many better options for that title.

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:44 pm

Rigo wrote:
TheWalkingDebt wrote:
gamerish wrote:No, I go to school in Florida. Barry is repped to high heavens around here. I've overheard UF being compared favorably to Harvard a depressing amount of times.
I've heard "Harvard of the South" too many times also.
Haha that's hilarious because there are so many better options for that title.

Duke, Vandy and Emory come to mind. Duke especially.

ChoboPie · Post by **ChoboPie** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:51 pm

TheWalkingDebt wrote:
gamerish wrote:No, I go to school in Florida. Barry is repped to high heavens around here. I've overheard UF being compared favorably to Harvard a depressing amount of times.

I've heard "Harvard of the South" too many times also.

Apparently some people call CWRU the "Harvard of Ohio."

Not to mention a match vs. UT Austin last year. We're talking about the order of matches for the day, and one of the guys interjects in the chat that they're the "Harvard of the South," only with smarter students and better job outcomes ...

Speaking of Harvard, I remember scouting their match history 3 seasons ago, and they had gone like 1-13. The single win? It was vs. Yale.

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:29 pm

People visiting YLS? Good lord....

Hikikomorist · Post by **Hikikomorist** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:10 pm

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:28 pm

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