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Post by Hennessy » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:27 pm

cakerusk wrote:Hello! I'm not a frequent visitor to this forum (even though I'd like to be!) but I wanted to share my experience. Last time I posted here was to vent about my little kiddos ripping apart and coloring in my PTs and I was so frustrated and jealous of some of you'll studying in relative peace. I spent 3 grueling months furiously pausing my stopwatch amidst PTs while little humans tugged at my shirt for food or screamed into the baby monitor. I almost gave up as I started scoring much lower than my average on a couple PTs a couple week before test date when one of them fell sick and I thought to myself if I can't deal with 3 months of distractions then how will I survive 3 years of LS, but at the insistence of of my husband I kept going. Anyway, long story short, I shockingly exceeded my target score by 5 points! I was scoring between 163-167 in the last month but I was extremely focused and determined on test day and on Tuesday I saw the beautiful 170 beaming at me on my phone screen. To say I was ecstatic would be an understatement but I wanted to post this as a shout out to any parents out there who feel at any point in their academic endeavors that their kids may be holding them back from their full potential, You're wrong!!! They were the first ones I hugged and kissed and fed ice cream too upon the good news =D
This was my first take and I'm a foreign grad (meaning no official GPA reported by Lsac) so I MIGHT retake to further boost my score and hence application value. I'm an oldie pushing on to 30 next year and if anyone out there in similar shoes as me has any advice for me I'd be extremely happy to hear from you!
Good luck to everyone ITT, I will be perusing the Admissions Board next month so see you'll there :)
Holy shit, congratulations. That's pretty amazing. You have slain the GrayDay horror.

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Post by dodint » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:31 pm

I'm still waiting, in a way. I floated my super late 2016 cycle application. Admissions said they'd decide in a few days because of the compressed timeline. Application was marked complete today, but of course it's a holiday weekend so I suspect I have another week of just waiting.

Unless they knock it out before peacing out tomorrow, that'd be greeeeeeeeeaaaaaaat if they would go ahead and do that.

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Post by pretzeltime » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:45 pm

HennessyVSOP wrote:
cakerusk wrote:Hello! I'm not a frequent visitor to this forum (even though I'd like to be!) but I wanted to share my experience. Last time I posted here was to vent about my little kiddos ripping apart and coloring in my PTs and I was so frustrated and jealous of some of you'll studying in relative peace. I spent 3 grueling months furiously pausing my stopwatch amidst PTs while little humans tugged at my shirt for food or screamed into the baby monitor. I almost gave up as I started scoring much lower than my average on a couple PTs a couple week before test date when one of them fell sick and I thought to myself if I can't deal with 3 months of distractions then how will I survive 3 years of LS, but at the insistence of of my husband I kept going. Anyway, long story short, I shockingly exceeded my target score by 5 points! I was scoring between 163-167 in the last month but I was extremely focused and determined on test day and on Tuesday I saw the beautiful 170 beaming at me on my phone screen. To say I was ecstatic would be an understatement but I wanted to post this as a shout out to any parents out there who feel at any point in their academic endeavors that their kids may be holding them back from their full potential, You're wrong!!! They were the first ones I hugged and kissed and fed ice cream too upon the good news =D
This was my first take and I'm a foreign grad (meaning no official GPA reported by Lsac) so I MIGHT retake to further boost my score and hence application value. I'm an oldie pushing on to 30 next year and if anyone out there in similar shoes as me has any advice for me I'd be extremely happy to hear from you!
Good luck to everyone ITT, I will be perusing the Admissions Board next month so see you'll there :)
Holy shit, congratulations. That's pretty amazing. You have slain the GrayDay horror.
yeah that is some unicorn shit right there! that's incredible. you ain't old by any means, but having a few youngin's is indeed a completely different category for LSAT studying obstacles. congratulations, I hope you are basking in a lovely lovely victory glow.

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Post by ayylmao » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:32 pm

Looking back on this thread has me sad as fuck yall. I still remember dejectedly making a TLS account and joining the June preppers thread on the day I decided to postpone my Feb take to June. And now I'm done. June 2016 is no more; my LSAT journey is no more. I really feel a pang of emptiness, a strong sense of loss. I won't be a applying for a couple years, so I guess I won't see you in the admissions threads this fall. All I can say is that I love you bunch of shitposting dorkwads. No one IRL understood my struggle nearly as intimately as you all did. Goodbye.

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Post by Mikey » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:38 pm

ayylmao wrote:Looking back on this thread has me sad as fuck yall. I still remember dejectedly making a TLS account and joining the June preppers thread on the day I decided to postpone my Feb take to June. And now I'm done. June 2016 is no more; my LSAT journey is no more. I really feel a pang of emptiness, a strong sense of loss. I won't be a applying for a couple years, so I guess I won't see you in the admissions threads this fall. All I can say is that I love you bunch of shitposting dorkwads. No one IRL understood my struggle nearly as intimately as you all did. Goodbye.
See you around my dude, I'm glad that you're happy with your score. You can always step into the September group thread and say waddup 8)

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Post by ayylmao » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:41 pm

TheMikey wrote:
ayylmao wrote:Looking back on this thread has me sad as fuck yall. I still remember dejectedly making a TLS account and joining the June preppers thread on the day I decided to postpone my Feb take to June. And now I'm done. June 2016 is no more; my LSAT journey is no more. I really feel a pang of emptiness, a strong sense of loss. I won't be a applying for a couple years, so I guess I won't see you in the admissions threads this fall. All I can say is that I love you bunch of shitposting dorkwads. No one IRL understood my struggle nearly as intimately as you all did. Goodbye.
See you around my dude, I'm glad that you're happy with your score. You can always step into the September group thread and say waddup 8)
Thanks, yeah I'm pretty happy with it. My potential was higher, and if I had unlimited time to study maybe I could eventually turn my BR 180s to actual 180s. But 173 is good enough for me, and I can't complain. Now go do better than I did!

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Post by Mikey » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:10 pm

ayylmao wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
ayylmao wrote:Looking back on this thread has me sad as fuck yall. I still remember dejectedly making a TLS account and joining the June preppers thread on the day I decided to postpone my Feb take to June. And now I'm done. June 2016 is no more; my LSAT journey is no more. I really feel a pang of emptiness, a strong sense of loss. I won't be a applying for a couple years, so I guess I won't see you in the admissions threads this fall. All I can say is that I love you bunch of shitposting dorkwads. No one IRL understood my struggle nearly as intimately as you all did. Goodbye.
See you around my dude, I'm glad that you're happy with your score. You can always step into the September group thread and say waddup 8)
Thanks, yeah I'm pretty happy with it. My potential was higher, and if I had unlimited time to study maybe I could eventually turn my BR 180s to actual 180s. But 173 is good enough for me, and I can't complain. Now go do better than I did!
173 is an amazing score nonetheless, you worked hard for it and you definitely deserve it.

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Post by footballlax55 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:29 pm

Finally checked my score. Got a 170 again. I got a 169, 170,170. FML. LG: -2, LR:-2, Lr: -3, R: -3. -10 overall. Why couldn't a -10 have been at least just a 171 then i'd feel like I actually made some progress.

I'm extremely disappointed. I was PTing around 174 with scores between 171 and 177. Well. There goes literally 600 hours of my life. My senior year of college was not very fun because I was busy with this. And there goes my chances at getting into CCN.

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Post by notsolawful » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:32 pm

footballlax55 wrote:Finally checked my score. Got a 170 again. I got a 169, 170,170. FML. LG: -2, LR:-2, Lr: -3, R: -3. -10 overall. Why couldn't a -10 have been at least just a 171 then i'd feel like I actually made some progress.

I'm extremely disappointed. I was PTing around 174 with scores between 171 and 177. Well. There goes literally 600 hours of my life. My senior year of college was not very fun because I was busy with this. And there goes my chances at getting into CCN.
Damn, that's rough man. I prefer a harder test and a bigger curve because I tend to make stupid mistakes. Best of luck to you.

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Post by RamTitan » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:35 pm

footballlax55 wrote:Finally checked my score. Got a 170 again. I got a 169, 170,170. FML. LG: -2, LR:-2, Lr: -3, R: -3. -10 overall. Why couldn't a -10 have been at least just a 171 then i'd feel like I actually made some progress.

I'm extremely disappointed. I was PTing around 174 with scores between 171 and 177. Well. There goes literally 600 hours of my life. My senior year of college was not very fun because I was busy with this. And there goes my chances at getting into CCN.
I feel like this is going to be me....that fucking sucks dude

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Post by Alive97 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:45 pm

ayylmao wrote:
TheMikey wrote:
ayylmao wrote:Looking back on this thread has me sad as fuck yall. I still remember dejectedly making a TLS account and joining the June preppers thread on the day I decided to postpone my Feb take to June. And now I'm done. June 2016 is no more; my LSAT journey is no more. I really feel a pang of emptiness, a strong sense of loss. I won't be a applying for a couple years, so I guess I won't see you in the admissions threads this fall. All I can say is that I love you bunch of shitposting dorkwads. No one IRL understood my struggle nearly as intimately as you all did. Goodbye.
See you around my dude, I'm glad that you're happy with your score. You can always step into the September group thread and say waddup 8)
Thanks, yeah I'm pretty happy with it. My potential was higher, and if I had unlimited time to study maybe I could eventually turn my BR 180s to actual 180s. But 173 is good enough for me, and I can't complain. Now go do better than I did!
We got 172/173 with potential to get a little higher. What if we retake in Sep with a study strategy that is not mass repetition? It seems to me there's no question in isolation on these tests that I don't understand. It's an issue of not having focused on the right thing in that moment. I'm thinking about retaking with the understanding it's no big deal if I don't top 172. It will be relatively lax studying, doing RC sections to try to get to the point where I remember the whole passage precisely within the time allotted. In other words detailed focus on which parts of the passage I missed to get certain Qs wrong, rather than mass repetition of PTs.

Just seems to me that in the 170s, it's basically one Q per point. Squeaking out a couple more Qs is a matter of how you approach the test.

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Post by R. Jeeves » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:34 am

I'm gonna miss this thread. It was nice having all you guys to share this grind with. This thread was also entertaing in and of itself and made me legit lol on numerous occassions. A lot of people in this thread were cool posters and nice people.

Congrats to the people who met their goals, and good luck next time to the people who didnt. I hope anyone who is considering a retake saw the posts itt where people made 5-10 point jumps on 2nd takes - it happens more often than you would think, and in most cases there is almost no downside to letting yourself believe it will happen to you and working to make that possible.

I'm still a waiter thanks to a proctor fuck up, and I honestly cant predict how I did at this point. Maybe I'll join you guys in the applicants thread. Or in the september study thread. Or maybe I won't even do law school and will only pop into waiters threads to provide my tutelage to promising posters so that they can flourish.

Anyway, good luck with your careers you wonderful people. Happy drinking.
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Post by bmathers » Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:55 pm

zeglo wrote:
R. Jeeves wrote:I'm gonna miss this thread. It was nice having all you guys to share this grind with. This thread was also entertaing in and of itself and made me legit lol on numerous occassions. A lot of people in this thread were cool posters and nice people.

Congrats to the people who met their goals, and good luck next time to the people who didnt. I hope anyone who is considering a retake saw the posts itt where people made 15-20 point jumps on 2nd takes - it happens more often than you would think, and in most cases there is almost no downside to letting yourself believe it will happen to you and working to make that possible.

I'm still a waiter thanks to a proctor fuck up, and I honestly cant predict how I did at this point. Maybe I'll join you guys in the applicants thread. Or in the september study thread. Or maybe I won't even do law school and will only pop into waiters threads to provide my tutelage to promising posters so that they can flourish.

Anyway, good luck with your careers you wonderful people. Happy drinking.
Best wishes! I jumped only three points from first to second take, but my total improvement from the diagnostic was 15 points.
The average improvement is only 2.4 points. I've never actually heard of anyone jumping 15-20 points in one test?? I jumped 5 points on my retake, another 2-4 on my next retake and I'll be sitting great for my goals :-)

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Post by R. Jeeves » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:36 pm

Oh balls I think I meant to write 5-10. Sorry I was drunk on a train when I wrote that.

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Post by footballlax55 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:00 pm

RamTitan wrote:
footballlax55 wrote:
Something similar happened for me, too. I took off 8 weeks between the feb test before starting back up studying in april for the June test. My first 2 PTs back were 175 and 176. They were old ones (PT 22 and PT 29) but I hadn't done them ever before and my previous highest was 174.
I was thinking of taking PT 60 this Saturday and seeing how it goes. I took it once back in December - think that's long enough for it to be a fresh test, or should I do an older test like you did?
Fresh would be better. Remembering just a little bit really helps on reading and sometimes LG

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Post by footballlax55 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:05 pm

notsolawful wrote:
footballlax55 wrote:Finally checked my score. Got a 170 again. I got a 169, 170,170. FML. LG: -2, LR:-2, Lr: -3, R: -3. -10 overall. Why couldn't a -10 have been at least just a 171 then i'd feel like I actually made some progress.

I'm extremely disappointed. I was PTing around 174 with scores between 171 and 177. Well. There goes literally 600 hours of my life. My senior year of college was not very fun because I was busy with this. And there goes my chances at getting into CCN.
Damn, that's rough man. I prefer a harder test and a bigger curve because I tend to make stupid mistakes. Best of luck to you.
Exactly. I'm always going to make a couple stupid mistakes and I'm always going to get at least a couple wrong so the higher the curve the better I do.

And the first time I took it I got 13 wrong, 2nd time 12 wrong and 3rd time 10 wrong. But of course the curve had to be -10/-11 for the 3rd time.
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Post by footballlax55 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:09 pm

RamTitan wrote:
footballlax55 wrote:Finally checked my score. Got a 170 again. I got a 169, 170,170. FML. LG: -2, LR:-2, Lr: -3, R: -3. -10 overall. Why couldn't a -10 have been at least just a 171 then i'd feel like I actually made some progress.

I'm extremely disappointed. I was PTing around 174 with scores between 171 and 177. Well. There goes literally 600 hours of my life. My senior year of college was not very fun because I was busy with this. And there goes my chances at getting into CCN.
I feel like this is going to be me....that fucking sucks dude
And what's the worst is that I know the test so much better than I did my first time taking it. I definitely know how to approach it better, find the right answers, pace myself better etc. Except my score doesn't reflect it.

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Post by RamTitan » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:24 pm

footballlax55 wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
footballlax55 wrote:Finally checked my score. Got a 170 again. I got a 169, 170,170. FML. LG: -2, LR:-2, Lr: -3, R: -3. -10 overall. Why couldn't a -10 have been at least just a 171 then i'd feel like I actually made some progress.

I'm extremely disappointed. I was PTing around 174 with scores between 171 and 177. Well. There goes literally 600 hours of my life. My senior year of college was not very fun because I was busy with this. And there goes my chances at getting into CCN.
I feel like this is going to be me....that fucking sucks dude
And what's the worst is that I know the test so much better than I did my first time taking it. I definitely know how to approach it better, find the right answers, pace myself better etc. Except my score doesn't reflect it.
Well, there's always Penn man, and they have better employment stats than CCN anyways.

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Post by proteinshake » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:27 pm

RamTitan wrote:
footballlax55 wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
footballlax55 wrote:Finally checked my score. Got a 170 again. I got a 169, 170,170. FML. LG: -2, LR:-2, Lr: -3, R: -3. -10 overall. Why couldn't a -10 have been at least just a 171 then i'd feel like I actually made some progress.

I'm extremely disappointed. I was PTing around 174 with scores between 171 and 177. Well. There goes literally 600 hours of my life. My senior year of college was not very fun because I was busy with this. And there goes my chances at getting into CCN.
I feel like this is going to be me....that fucking sucks dude
And what's the worst is that I know the test so much better than I did my first time taking it. I definitely know how to approach it better, find the right answers, pace myself better etc. Except my score doesn't reflect it.
Well, there's always Penn man, and they have better employment stats than CCN anyways.
I mean they're good but not better

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Post by Fantasyfreak294 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:48 pm

171. I was sorely disappointed.

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Post by Mikey » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:51 pm

Fantasyfreak294 wrote:171. I was sorely disappointed.
I mean that's not a bad score. What were you PTing?

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Post by BirdLawExpert » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:44 pm

Fantasyfreak294 wrote:171. I was sorely disappointed.
I think you should take a step back and gather a little perspective. 171 is not only a great score, it's an anomaly. You scored in the highest 1% of test-takers on a standardized evaluation administered to college students and graduates who are seeking entry into an academically rigorous profession. The score you've received is nothing short of miraculous, and being "sorely disappointed" in what you've received is likely going to be detrimental moving forward if you choose to retake.

What's more, being "sorely disappointed" in a score that many on this board would kill for is staggeringly tone-deaf.

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Post by RamTitan » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:48 pm

footballlax55 wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
footballlax55 wrote:Finally checked my score. Got a 170 again. I got a 169, 170,170. FML. LG: -2, LR:-2, Lr: -3, R: -3. -10 overall. Why couldn't a -10 have been at least just a 171 then i'd feel like I actually made some progress.

I'm extremely disappointed. I was PTing around 174 with scores between 171 and 177. Well. There goes literally 600 hours of my life. My senior year of college was not very fun because I was busy with this. And there goes my chances at getting into CCN.
I feel like this is going to be me....that fucking sucks dude
And what's the worst is that I know the test so much better than I did my first time taking it. I definitely know how to approach it better, find the right answers, pace myself better etc. Except my score doesn't reflect it.
Do you mind me asking why you think you had a hard time getting a score that reflected your PT average?

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Post by RamTitan » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:49 pm

proteinshake wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
footballlax55 wrote:
RamTitan wrote:
footballlax55 wrote:Finally checked my score. Got a 170 again. I got a 169, 170,170. FML. LG: -2, LR:-2, Lr: -3, R: -3. -10 overall. Why couldn't a -10 have been at least just a 171 then i'd feel like I actually made some progress.

I'm extremely disappointed. I was PTing around 174 with scores between 171 and 177. Well. There goes literally 600 hours of my life. My senior year of college was not very fun because I was busy with this. And there goes my chances at getting into CCN.
I feel like this is going to be me....that fucking sucks dude
And what's the worst is that I know the test so much better than I did my first time taking it. I definitely know how to approach it better, find the right answers, pace myself better etc. Except my score doesn't reflect it.
Well, there's always Penn man, and they have better employment stats than CCN anyways.
I mean they're good but not better
For some reason I thought I had read a ranking they were #4....probably should have googled that before making that comment lol.

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