June 2016 - Waiter's (+170 or bust) GRAY DAY HAS AWOKEN FROM ITS SLUMBER Forum

[RamTitan]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

[footballlax55]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

Retake it unless you'll have a job that will make it near impossible to study.

It's better to know that you tried as hard and much as you could than to regret it. Even just a 2 point increase could mean tens of thousands of dollars or getting into schools that are even better.

[nerdylsat]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

We're pretty much in the same situation and with the same stats.

I wanna get higher but I realllyyy don't wanna go back to studying now that I'm enjoying my free time again.

[RamTitan]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

Retake it unless you'll have a job that will make it near impossible to study.

It's better to know that you tried as hard and much as you could than to regret it. Even just a 2 point increase could mean tens of thousands of dollars or getting into schools that are even better.

I'm actually unemployed at the moment......with that said, I am hopefully going to start working at a major tech company which would have hours from 8 to 8. I was thinking I'd make some great connection from that endeavor; I'm not sure which one would be more worth it at this point.

[RamTitan]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

We're pretty much in the same situation and with the same stats.

I wanna get higher but I realllyyy don't wanna go back to studying now that I'm enjoying my free time again.

Pretty much everyone online is telling me to retake it, and everyone in real life (law school students, pre-law adviser included) are telling me not to; so damn confusing

[sluggla]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

We're pretty much in the same situation and with the same stats.

I wanna get higher but I realllyyy don't wanna go back to studying now that I'm enjoying my free time again.

Pretty much everyone online is telling me to retake it, and everyone in real life (law school students, pre-law adviser included) are telling me not to; so damn confusing

Everyone in real life told me not to retake. I gave it another retake anyway. After today I have a host of new schools available to me and my scholarship potential just sky rocketed - all for a measly 3 months of casual studying and 170 dollars. I traded a few weekends of sleeping in and Netflix binges for tens of thousands of dollars and better job prospects.

Unless you've hit your greatest possible score, retaking is unequivocally the correct choice.

[sluggla]

A bit late - but I surpassed my target score, my puppy graduated from a training class, and I got the chance to have pizza and beers with my best friend.

Best. Day. Ever.

[RamTitan]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

We're pretty much in the same situation and with the same stats.

I wanna get higher but I realllyyy don't wanna go back to studying now that I'm enjoying my free time again.

Pretty much everyone online is telling me to retake it, and everyone in real life (law school students, pre-law adviser included) are telling me not to; so damn confusing

Everyone in real life told me not to retake. I gave it another retake anyway. After today I have a host of new schools available to me and my scholarship potential just sky rocketed - all for a measly 3 months of casual studying and 170 dollars. I traded a few weekends of sleeping in and Netflix binges for tens of thousands of dollars and better job prospects.

Unless you've hit your greatest possible score, retaking is unequivocally the correct choice.

So you didn't go as hard as you initially did? I'm thinking of cutting back to like 1-2 practice tests a week and doing some light drilling. I'm just really afraid of getting a score lower than 169 next time...plus I have already done a lot of test retakes

[josh9308]

For people re-taking - what are the best tips?

Luckily, I have about 4 fresh tests left. Did you guys mostly drill w/ the lack of PTs? Drill old PTs and review again? Just curious what worked best for those re-takers.


I am satisfied w/ my first score, but I think I can improve my score even more.

Thanks.

[sluggla]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

We're pretty much in the same situation and with the same stats.

I wanna get higher but I realllyyy don't wanna go back to studying now that I'm enjoying my free time again.

Pretty much everyone online is telling me to retake it, and everyone in real life (law school students, pre-law adviser included) are telling me not to; so damn confusing

Everyone in real life told me not to retake. I gave it another retake anyway. After today I have a host of new schools available to me and my scholarship potential just sky rocketed - all for a measly 3 months of casual studying and 170 dollars. I traded a few weekends of sleeping in and Netflix binges for tens of thousands of dollars and better job prospects.

Unless you've hit your greatest possible score, retaking is unequivocally the correct choice.

So you didn't go as hard as you initially did? I'm thinking of cutting back to like 1-2 practice tests a week and doing some light drilling. I'm just really afraid of getting a score lower than 169 next time...plus I have already done a lot of test retakes

I posted this a while back...

After studying hardcore (6 months with 2-3 hours per day and 2-3 PTs per week) for last December, I was averaging a 168 with a high of 171. My score in December turned out to be right around my average of 168.

So took 5 months off and just recently picked up studying again. This time I'm taking it casually by just perusing the PS bibles and running through the occasional timed section.

I just took my first PT(62) since December and scored a 177.

Moral of the story: Burn out is real. Chillax with the cramming nerds.

Don't be afraid of getting a lower score. Just feel confident you have the tools to do your best and let it ride.

[bmathers]

A bit late - but I surpassed my target score, my puppy graduated from a training class, and I got the chance to have pizza and beers with my best friend.

Best. Day. Ever.

You're giving a little puppy beers??

[bmathers]

BTW, if you do retake and score a point or two lower... does that look really bad for potential schools?

[pittsburghpirates]

Here's my question guys:

I would really fricken love to get into Columbia, I live in New York and and it HAS been my dream school.

Should I ED it? Or will that just cause me to get less money offered if I get accepted?

Definitely do not ED CLS. Feel free to PM, I was a splitter this cycle with very similar stats and am happy to offer any advice

[pittsburghpirates]

BTW, if you do retake and score a point or two lower... does that look really bad for potential schools?

Check out Spiveys thread. By and large, the answer to your question is no. High score is what counts most because thats what gets reported

[sluggla]

A bit late - but I surpassed my target score, my puppy graduated from a training class, and I got the chance to have pizza and beers with my best friend.

Best. Day. Ever.

You're giving a little puppy beers??

I should have been clear - my puppy is my soul sister.

Soul sister > best friend

[RamTitan]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

We're pretty much in the same situation and with the same stats.

I wanna get higher but I realllyyy don't wanna go back to studying now that I'm enjoying my free time again.

Pretty much everyone online is telling me to retake it, and everyone in real life (law school students, pre-law adviser included) are telling me not to; so damn confusing

Everyone in real life told me not to retake. I gave it another retake anyway. After today I have a host of new schools available to me and my scholarship potential just sky rocketed - all for a measly 3 months of casual studying and 170 dollars. I traded a few weekends of sleeping in and Netflix binges for tens of thousands of dollars and better job prospects.

Unless you've hit your greatest possible score, retaking is unequivocally the correct choice.

So you didn't go as hard as you initially did? I'm thinking of cutting back to like 1-2 practice tests a week and doing some light drilling. I'm just really afraid of getting a score lower than 169 next time...plus I have already done a lot of test retakes

I posted this a while back...

After studying hardcore (6 months with 2-3 hours per day and 2-3 PTs per week) for last December, I was averaging a 168 with a high of 171. My score in December turned out to be right around my average of 168.

So took 5 months off and just recently picked up studying again. This time I'm taking it casually by just perusing the PS bibles and running through the occasional timed section.

I just took my first PT(62) since December and scored a 177.

Moral of the story: Burn out is real. Chillax with the cramming nerds.

Don't be afraid of getting a lower score. Just feel confident you have the tools to do your best and let it ride.

That's an awesome story!

Was the 177 on a fresh practice test or a retake? At this point I don't have any fresh tests left....

[BirdLawExpert]

A bit late - but I surpassed my target score, my puppy graduated from a training class, and I got the chance to have pizza and beers with my best friend.

Best. Day. Ever.

Congrats, sluggla! That's awesome.

[Dodocogon]

Got a 159 for my first take - My PT Avg. was 164 so I was hoping to get that - Was always planning on a September retake though, so I'm fine with having a baseline score that gets me into my state school w/ money in the books. Now, after a good night of drinking, I'm actually excited to buckle down, go through my practice tests in the next few months, and see just how good I can get at these. I wish I had found TLS earlier as it's a great motivator to push myself to the highest degree, and I'm excited to see just what that is.

Congrats to everyone who met/exceeded their targets!! And good luck to everyone joining me in September!

[etramak]

I enjoy torturing myself so I just redid the logic games and the tokens passage, which accounted for 10 of my wrong answers. May as well have been fresh since I didn't remember anything, only difference here was that it was a no-pressure situation. I haven't touched prep material since the sixth, but still games were a breeze and while I found tokens difficult it was manageable (I got 2 wrong on the passage instead of fucking 7).

I know this reasoning is somewhat flawed but I attribute these 8 incorrect choices + 1 LR which I just didn't read right entirely to mental lapse. So I think what I need for September is less hardcore drilling (hmm) and more methods to make sure I don't have any mini breakdowns during the test. I know a lot of you have mentioned meditating but I have no interest in Eastern mumbo jumbo. Sorry for taking so long to vent but:

TLDR: How the hell do you stay calm during the test so you don't royally fuck up questions (preferably without using mind-altering substances)

[benwyatt]

Here's my question guys:

I would really fricken love to get into Columbia, I live in New York and and it HAS been my dream school.

Should I ED it? Or will that just cause me to get less money offered if I get accepted?

Definitely do not ED CLS. Feel free to PM, I was a splitter this cycle with very similar stats and am happy to offer any advice

+1 to this.
Your GPA is higher than mine by a good amount and your LSAT is higher by a point.
I got into Columbia in the first wave.
Don't ED.
PM if you have Qs.

[appind]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

We're pretty much in the same situation and with the same stats.

I wanna get higher but I realllyyy don't wanna go back to studying now that I'm enjoying my free time again.

Pretty much everyone online is telling me to retake it, and everyone in real life (law school students, pre-law adviser included) are telling me not to; so damn confusing

if i am not wrong, tls tells us not to trust pre-law advisers

[asuddenarborealstop]

I enjoy torturing myself so I just redid the logic games and the tokens passage, which accounted for 10 of my wrong answers. May as well have been fresh since I didn't remember anything, only difference here was that it was a no-pressure situation. I haven't touched prep material since the sixth, but still games were a breeze and while I found tokens difficult it was manageable (I got 2 wrong on the passage instead of fucking 7).

I know this reasoning is somewhat flawed but I attribute these 8 incorrect choices + 1 LR which I just didn't read right entirely to mental lapse. So I think what I need for September is less hardcore drilling (hmm) and more methods to make sure I don't have any mini breakdowns during the test. I know a lot of you have mentioned meditating but I have no interest in Eastern mumbo jumbo. Sorry for taking so long to vent but:

TLDR: How the hell do you stay calm during the test so you don't royally fuck up questions (preferably without using mind-altering substances)

I spent the 24 hours before in total relaxation mode -- reading by a pool, spa day, dinner, and a silly movie and early night to bed. It won't protect you from panicking/rushing/psyching yourself out in the exam, but for me going in very calm let me keep a pretty even keel throughout.

[TAD]

I enjoy torturing myself so I just redid the logic games and the tokens passage, which accounted for 10 of my wrong answers. May as well have been fresh since I didn't remember anything, only difference here was that it was a no-pressure situation. I haven't touched prep material since the sixth, but still games were a breeze and while I found tokens difficult it was manageable (I got 2 wrong on the passage instead of fucking 7).

I know this reasoning is somewhat flawed but I attribute these 8 incorrect choices + 1 LR which I just didn't read right entirely to mental lapse. So I think what I need for September is less hardcore drilling (hmm) and more methods to make sure I don't have any mini breakdowns during the test. I know a lot of you have mentioned meditating but I have no interest in Eastern mumbo jumbo. Sorry for taking so long to vent but:

TLDR: How the hell do you stay calm during the test so you don't royally fuck up questions (preferably without using mind-altering substances)

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[footballlax55]

Basically, I don't want to retake it, but I don't want to regret not retaking it

We're pretty much in the same situation and with the same stats.

I wanna get higher but I realllyyy don't wanna go back to studying now that I'm enjoying my free time again.

Pretty much everyone online is telling me to retake it, and everyone in real life (law school students, pre-law adviser included) are telling me not to; so damn confusing

Everyone in real life told me not to retake. I gave it another retake anyway. After today I have a host of new schools available to me and my scholarship potential just sky rocketed - all for a measly 3 months of casual studying and 170 dollars. I traded a few weekends of sleeping in and Netflix binges for tens of thousands of dollars and better job prospects.

Unless you've hit your greatest possible score, retaking is unequivocally the correct choice.

So you didn't go as hard as you initially did? I'm thinking of cutting back to like 1-2 practice tests a week and doing some light drilling. I'm just really afraid of getting a score lower than 169 next time...plus I have already done a lot of test retakes

I posted this a while back...

After studying hardcore (6 months with 2-3 hours per day and 2-3 PTs per week) for last December, I was averaging a 168 with a high of 171. My score in December turned out to be right around my average of 168.

So took 5 months off and just recently picked up studying again. This time I'm taking it casually by just perusing the PS bibles and running through the occasional timed section.

I just took my first PT(62) since December and scored a 177.

Moral of the story: Burn out is real. Chillax with the cramming nerds.

Don't be afraid of getting a lower score. Just feel confident you have the tools to do your best and let it ride.

That's an awesome story!

Was the 177 on a fresh practice test or a retake? At this point I don't have any fresh tests left....

Something similar happened for me, too. I took off 8 weeks between the feb test before starting back up studying in april for the June test. My first 2 PTs back were 175 and 176. They were old ones (PT 22 and PT 29) but I hadn't done them ever before and my previous highest was 174.

[Giro423]

I bombed, kind of: 160. I just wasn't fully prepared and I knew that, but still I haven't scored that low since April. Oh well, September here I come! See some of you guys in that thread?

I was -10 somehow in my first LR and -9 in games, which I blame on nerves. I knew i was very off focus during those sections since they were my first two, but usually when I felt that way during my last PT's I was still only missing between -4 and -6. I probably shouldn't have expected just because I had a high PT of 166 I would score around there necessarily. I don't think I did enough recent PT's, and I've only been studying for 4 months. Once I got into my groove I did pretty well in the last two sections (had my best RC ever at -3, and I deliberately went into RC knowing I needed to try to do perfectly after those first two sections). I bet I would have been closer to mid 160's if the experimental LR had been real *sigh*. Whatevs, not a bad safety score considering my diagnostic was 142...Congrats to everyone who smashed!