The Official February 2015 Study Group Forum

[nlee10]

Had a nightmare yesterday. My nightmare was that I scored a 167.

Bitch.

Rigo scored a 167 this past Dec if you didn't know.

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Anyone have any opinions on if I should throw up a late cycle Hail Mary on any schools or is it not worth the money? With my current score of only 164 and GPA of only 3.59, I didn't take much risk in apps cause I fear rejection. Or are any schools super generous and would help me negotiate with T30 schools?

Nah dont. Wait next year because the majority are gonna drop in medians and give out all their money as soon as the cycle starts in order to attempt to not drop again the following year. This year, a lot of surprise schools held their median. They wont be able to again, especially with these LSATs

Dude, I've been hearing the same thing especially with these past two September and December tests. Been reading up articles on Spivey Consulting saying schools will have a seriously tough time maintaining medians this year. There's been a significant drop in top LSAT takers. Even here on TLS where everyone is gunning for a T-14 school, the average LSAT score has been in the mid-high 160's- not a whole lot of 170+ I've been seeing this year.

[kang]

Rigo scored a 167 this past Dec if you didn't know.

D: totally taken out of context.

I'm not sure what to make of that...Except, I'm terrified of a 94th percentile score?? Jesus, help me. <-- "jesus, help me" (I thought this nightmare was ridic.)

[Rigo]

[kang]

Rigo scored a 167 this past Dec if you didn't know.

D: totally taken out of context.

I'm not sure what to make of that...Except, I'm terrified of a 94th percentile score?? Jesus, help me. <-- "jesus, help me" (I thought this nightmare was ridic.)

Foe'ing you. Bye.

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[Rigo]

[m27]

You don't think schools like Georgetown, GW, or Cornell would compensate for a possible lack of matriculates with late cycle acceptances? Especially if you're at/above median LSAT and GPA?

[Shakawkaw]

You don't think schools like Georgetown, GW, or Cornell would compensate for a possible lack of matriculates with late cycle acceptances? Especially if you're at/above median LSAT and GPA?

Yes, possible - if they don't fill up all their seats, they do tend to do this. It's a business after all. And also why it's rolling admissions.

ETA: Obvs, don't rely on this as a crutch. Apply as early as you can.

[kang]

But in all honesty, 167 sucks because it's in a weird middle ground. It's way too good for tier 1's but too low for t13's if you want good money.
So I get your nightmare. I'm just playing.

lol thank you!! That's exactly my nightmare - would you end up studying again for the test, or just apply with that score.

I don't even want to think about that slight chance of having to study for this damned test again.

[Rigo]

[Smallville]

But in all honesty, 167 sucks because it's in a weird middle ground. It's way too good for tier 1's but too low for t13's if you want good money.
So I get your nightmare. I'm just playing.

lol thank you!! That's exactly my nightmare - would you end up studying again for the test, or just apply with that score.
I don't even want to think about that slight chance of having to study for this damned test again.

I decided to retake, and I have a great GPA. I decided that I won't settle for anything less than a Cornell full-ride.
167/3.9x only gets you a half-ride

shit... I gotta get my score up

[kang]

But in all honesty, 167 sucks because it's in a weird middle ground. It's way too good for tier 1's but too low for t13's if you want good money.
So I get your nightmare. I'm just playing.

lol thank you!! That's exactly my nightmare - would you end up studying again for the test, or just apply with that score.
I don't even want to think about that slight chance of having to study for this damned test again.

I decided to retake, and I have a great GPA. I decided that I won't settle for anything less than a Cornell full-ride.
167/3.9x only gets you a half-ride

what gets you a full-ride? 170+? Wow. Well, you got this!!

[Rigo]

[kang]

what gets you a full-ride? 170+? Wow. Well, you got this!!

Probably 2-3 more points. So I just need to not f up logic games in June.

June? Not Feb?

[NL2424]

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[Rigo]

[nlee10]

Felt a little burnt out at the end of the 5th section of my PT today, so I stopped there instead of going to the 6th. This week I was trying to do one LR and one RC section during my off days (with a 6 section every other day), but I'm definitely considering just taking tomorrow off. Yesterday instead of just a RC and a LR I threw a LG section in there too and I think that extra section just fried me for today...

Are you PT'ing everyday Zac?... Sounds like you're doing a lot of sections a day lol.

[kang]

what gets you a full-ride? 170+? Wow. Well, you got this!!

Probably 2-3 more points. So I just need to not f up logic games in June.

June? Not Feb?

Winner winner chicken dinner.

traitor.

[GreenTee]

I decided that I won't settle for anything less than a Cornell full-ride.
167/3.9x only gets you a half-ride

Oddly specific goal.

Keep in mind that scholarship decisions don't follow the strict & predictable metrics that admissions decisions do. LSN provides a rough idea of what you might expect in terms of scholarship money, but those are just averages from a potentially unrepresentative sample.

Also Cornell is kind of weird with scholarships, right? They have all of these different kinds of alumni/dean's scholarships that come in widely disparate values.

[kang]

Felt a little burnt out at the end of the 5th section of my PT today, so I stopped there instead of going to the 6th. This week I was trying to do one LR and one RC section during my off days (with a 6 section every other day), but I'm definitely considering just taking tomorrow off. Yesterday instead of just a RC and a LR I threw a LG section in there too and I think that extra section just fried me for today...

ETA: Also first time I went -1 instead of -0 in a LG section for the past two weeks, PT 59 Sec 1 Q 10 rule substitution question totally tricked me.

Wait so you're doing 5-6 sections a day AND BR all in the same day? Damn it... I need to get faster with BR.

Btw, which PT does the substitution questions start appearing? Does anyone know?

[Rigo]

[NL2424]

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[nlee10]

Btw, which PT does the substitution questions start appearing? Does anyone know?

I'm too lazy to look it up....but when I took PT 53 on monday, it didn't have it. There was one, however, on PT 65 yesterday so time time between then.

[Shakawkaw]

I decided that I won't settle for anything less than a Cornell full-ride.
167/3.9x only gets you a half-ride

Oddly specific goal.

Keep in mind that scholarship decisions don't follow the strict & predictable metrics that admissions decisions do. LSN provides a rough idea of what you might expect in terms of scholarship money, but those are just averages from a potentially unrepresentative sample.

Also Cornell is kind of weird with scholarships, right? They have all of these different kinds of alumni/dean's scholarships that come in widely disparate values.

You need to get a 'tar. Go back to the mochi at least. Otherwise, I just scroll down all your posts.

Not that they are subtantive or anything, anyway.

Kang - I believe the rule-substitution era is introduced in PT 57.

[kang]

Btw, which PT does the substitution questions start appearing? Does anyone know?

I'm too lazy to look it up....but when I took PT 53 on monday, it didn't have it. There was one, however, on PT 65 yesterday so time time between then.

lolll so somewhere between 53-59 (since zac saw one). Need to go do some searching...
How was your PT btw?