The Official September 2017 Study Group Forum

[Anon-e-miss]

I wonder how GPA/LSAT reporting will work with their new early acceptance program.
I also don't full understand their fixation on the 173 median. Didn't Stanford jump them despite having a lower LSAT median? (171 iirc) Although as someone with above a 3.5 and full intentions of scoring in the 175 range, I can't complain

As sum1 blo a 3.5, I h8 u.

The early acceptance thing might not merit a lot of people, shit I don't understand it at all tbh.
S has the GPA camp on them by far and the lsat isn't as broad as GPA so I think they want it slightly higher to get back to 2. Plus it makes them look weak rankings wise

I wonder if H will ever reclaim the shared (or solely possessed) number 2 spot. I think that post-recession trends in legal hiring favor smaller class sizes, as we have seen with S passing H and UChi passing Columbia this year. I don't think that trend will change in the near future.

[presidentspivey]

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/file/ ... 016-17.pdf

Chicago should really let go of that unnecessarily high GPA median (3.9) and shore up their LSAT 25th, a fairly surprising 166.

[Anon-e-miss]

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/file/ ... 016-17.pdf

Chicago should really let go of that unnecessarily high GPA median (3.9) and shore up their LSAT 25th, a fairly surprising 166.

Purely speculative, but I wonder if this technique is to reduce competition for students with Columbia, who favors the LSAT and has surprisingly low GPA numbers

It is interesting that a law school attached to an UG that is notorious for grade deflation (read: RIGOR) places so much emphasis on GPA

[Alexandros]

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[presidentspivey]

Sorry to keep doing these but this one really jumped out at me

https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd ... rofile.php

3.9/169 medians. WTF, Penn?

[Alexandros]

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[dj9i27]

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[Rupert Pupkin]

Going on vacation for 10 days and am planning accordingly.

I have finished the Trainer, finished 60% of the MH LR (completed the assumption family) and finished up to Chpt 8 in MH LG (all the ordering stuff)... for my 10 days I am away I plan to do as much as I can of LSAT in the mornings just to maintain as much as Ican. Im not really sure what a reasonable allocated study time amount is, but im sure some days i could do a couple hrs and some just an hr or so. But, going to try my best to do as much as I reasonably can while still enjoying the trip.

I waas planning on not progressing in the material and just drill q-types for LR and LG of the month 1 types listed in Pithy PIke's study plan (pretty much what I have covered in the MH series thus far)and just doing that for the trip and before drilling just review some of the key points from the books and my notes... A little RC will keep the 160s at bay (Shoutout DJ) i suppose as well.

or should I just keep progressing in the material aand drilling like i have been? I really need to pickup LG drilling..

Thoughts or any advice on this approach for my hiatus?

[Anon-e-miss]

Sorry to keep doing these but this one really jumped out at me

https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd ... rofile.php

3.9/169 medians. WTF, Penn?

What is surprising here?

All the medians are listed here if you're looking for them http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=267625

frankly I'm surprised it's higher than HYS. Also goddamn T10, I thought your 75% were father away from me

163 25th LSAT

It is interesting how few schools, even in the T13, are able to maintain a 165+ 25th percentile. TLS makes me overestimate how many high LSAT scorers there are each year.

[chargers21]

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[Rupert Pupkin]

Sorry to keep doing these but this one really jumped out at me

https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd ... rofile.php

3.9/169 medians. WTF, Penn?

What is surprising here?

All the medians are listed here if you're looking for them http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=267625

frankly I'm surprised it's higher than HYS. Also goddamn T10, I thought your 75% were father away from me

163 25th LSAT

It is interesting how few schools, even in the T13, are able to maintain a 165+ 25th percentile. TLS makes me overestimate how many high LSAT scorers there are each year.

The real minority lies with people with high LSAT and even good gpas (like 3.7)

Agreed. its also extremely interesting how many low LSAT scorers and what those scores were, that were admitted to T14 and T6 schools. I think we auto assume that person is a super-hero, but really its hopeful that impossible isnt impossible at all despite the stat summaries. I've been to a few T14 visits and this was a pretty common point i took away from adcomms and even deans

[Anon-e-miss]

So I initially planned to start PTing sometime next week, but I forgot that I will be working 60ish hours next week (normally work 40) so that makes my goal unlikely. Do you think starting to PT regularly the following week is fine?
Unfortunately, my schedule hasn't been super strict so I don't want to get lost in the LSAT sauce, so to speak

[Anon-e-miss]

Sorry to keep doing these but this one really jumped out at me

https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd ... rofile.php

3.9/169 medians. WTF, Penn?

What is surprising here?

All the medians are listed here if you're looking for them http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=267625

frankly I'm surprised it's higher than HYS. Also goddamn T10, I thought your 75% were father away from me

163 25th LSAT

It is interesting how few schools, even in the T13, are able to maintain a 165+ 25th percentile. TLS makes me overestimate how many high LSAT scorers there are each year.

The real minority lies with people with high LSAT and even good gpas (like 3.7)

The 3.9+/sub-160 users on LSN hurt my soul

[Alexandros]

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[Alexandros]

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[Alexandros]

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[somebodyelse]

Sorry to keep doing these but this one really jumped out at me

https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd ... rofile.php

3.9/169 medians. WTF, Penn?

What is surprising here?

All the medians are listed here if you're looking for them http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=267625

frankly I'm surprised it's higher than HYS. Also goddamn T10, I thought your 75% were father away from me

163 25th LSAT

It is interesting how few schools, even in the T13, are able to maintain a 165+ 25th percentile. TLS makes me overestimate how many high LSAT scorers there are each year.

What surprises me is how Duke is able to maintain a 167 25th. It's the 5th highest LSAT 25th (YHS Columbia). Their GPA splits aren't particularly low either.

[ngogirl12]

Going on vacation for 10 days and am planning accordingly.

I have finished the Trainer, finished 60% of the MH LR (completed the assumption family) and finished up to Chpt 8 in MH LG (all the ordering stuff)... for my 10 days I am away I plan to do as much as I can of LSAT in the mornings just to maintain as much as Ican. Im not really sure what a reasonable allocated study time amount is, but im sure some days i could do a couple hrs and some just an hr or so. But, going to try my best to do as much as I reasonably can while still enjoying the trip.

I waas planning on not progressing in the material and just drill q-types for LR and LG of the month 1 types listed in Pithy PIke's study plan (pretty much what I have covered in the MH series thus far)and just doing that for the trip and before drilling just review some of the key points from the books and my notes... A little RC will keep the 160s at bay (Shoutout DJ) i suppose as well.

or should I just keep progressing in the material aand drilling like i have been? I really need to pickup LG drilling..

Thoughts or any advice on this approach for my hiatus?

Wow. Props to you! You make me feel like such a slacker LOL.

So, I definitely think (if you can) fool proof LG 1-40, it will take you far. I did that last year and it definitely helped me make key inferences and see similar patterns in the newer games (I was stupid and took some PTs in the 70s when I wasn't ready). I also plan on redoing all the LG 1-40 because I think there are valuable lessons in those LG.

Personally, what I am doing right now as in for this month is 1 PT/week (so one timed section per day and review after that) and on top of that use the 7Sage cc for LR/LG, Manhattan RC Guide and Trainer for LR/RC coupled with drilling from Cambridge 1-38. I think doing timed sections every day will help my brain acclimate closely to the actual PTs before I go all in and also gives me time to complete the CC/books and drill before July comes.

Also, I think the break from the LSAT might actually benefit you in you cognitive capabilities etc. I'm not saying you have to stay away from the LSAT the entire 10 days (maybe during your travel time review what you have been working on) or an hour every day. I know personally when my relatives came to visit I got studying in maybe 1 day while they were in town, there was just too much to do. It took me maybe 1-2 days to get back into the LSAT vibe, but it worked!

Hope you end up figuring out a cohesive plan!

[chargers21]

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[Rupert Pupkin]

Going on vacation for 10 days and am planning accordingly.

I have finished the Trainer, finished 60% of the MH LR (completed the assumption family) and finished up to Chpt 8 in MH LG (all the ordering stuff)... for my 10 days I am away I plan to do as much as I can of LSAT in the mornings just to maintain as much as Ican. Im not really sure what a reasonable allocated study time amount is, but im sure some days i could do a couple hrs and some just an hr or so. But, going to try my best to do as much as I reasonably can while still enjoying the trip.

I waas planning on not progressing in the material and just drill q-types for LR and LG of the month 1 types listed in Pithy PIke's study plan (pretty much what I have covered in the MH series thus far)and just doing that for the trip and before drilling just review some of the key points from the books and my notes... A little RC will keep the 160s at bay (Shoutout DJ) i suppose as well.

or should I just keep progressing in the material aand drilling like i have been? I really need to pickup LG drilling..

Thoughts or any advice on this approach for my hiatus?

Wow. Props to you! You make me feel like such a slacker LOL.

So, I definitely think (if you can) fool proof LG 1-40, it will take you far. I did that last year and it definitely helped me make key inferences and see similar patterns in the newer games (I was stupid and took some PTs in the 70s when I wasn't ready). I also plan on redoing all the LG 1-40 because I think there are valuable lessons in those LG.

Personally, what I am doing right now as in for this month is 1 PT/week (so one timed section per day and review after that) and on top of that use the 7Sage cc for LR/LG, Manhattan RC Guide and Trainer for LR/RC coupled with drilling from Cambridge 1-38. I think doing timed sections every day will help my brain acclimate closely to the actual PTs before I go all in and also gives me time to complete the CC/books and drill before July comes.

Also, I think the break from the LSAT might actually benefit you in you cognitive capabilities etc. I'm not saying you have to stay away from the LSAT the entire 10 days (maybe during your travel time review what you have been working on) or an hour every day. I know personally when my relatives came to visit I got studying in maybe 1 day while they were in town, there was just too much to do. It took me maybe 1-2 days to get back into the LSAT vibe, but it worked!

Hope you end up figuring out a cohesive plan!

Yeah definitely... There will be a day or so when I do nothing, and after a non-stop grind this passed yr and a half in my life I could use a good relaxing vacation..BUT, I don't want to go multiple days cold turkey and then when I get back it take a week to get into the swing of things... So, it sounds like you are suggesting that I just drill and review on the trip?

[dj9i27]

i might take the day off aside from some RC. Tired, oh so tired.

[dm1683]

Sorry to keep doing these but this one really jumped out at me

https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd ... rofile.php

3.9/169 medians. WTF, Penn?

What is surprising here?

All the medians are listed here if you're looking for them http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=267625

frankly I'm surprised it's higher than HYS. Also goddamn T10, I thought your 75% were father away from me

Then again high GPAs are much more common than high LSATs.
Grade inflation and A+s

don't I know it
I have not slept with my professors btw (although there are a few I wouldn't mind...)

i am actually very smartical

[chewinggum]

Coming home to find my puppy completely chewed up my Kaplan book but left my PS book alone

[dj9i27]

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[ngogirl12]

Yeah definitely... There will be a day or so when I do nothing, and after a non-stop grind this passed yr and a half in my life I could use a good relaxing vacation..BUT, I don't want to go multiple days cold turkey and then when I get back it take a week to get into the swing of things... So, it sounds like you are suggesting that I just drill and review on the trip?

Yeah just drill and review. Reinforce those skills you've been building/developing.