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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by ccordero » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:14 am

everyone is scoring so well! and i'm still sitting here all like :cry:

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Post by RZ5646 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:45 am

This thread died lol.

I'll get back into prepping once school ends, aiming for October. I plan on doing LG drills at least 3 times per week so I'll be a logic games machine by test day, plus doing every PT I haven't done yet (which is all but 4 of them) on a one or two per week schedule. And I'm changing my target score from "eh 173 would be good enough" to 180. Seeing as I got 174 on my third ever PT, after only a few weeks of studying, I think a perfect score (or at least a 177+, given test day randomness) is possible for me as long as I work hard. As you guys may have guessed, I'm one of those underachievers who just skates by on talent, but that ends now. I'm going to give this my best effort and see what I'm truly capable of.

I'm going to try to stay off of TLS but I do come back here occasionally to see what's going on, so you'll probably see me every one in a while.

Has anyone found a book, website, etc., beyond the usual recommendations that was especially useful? I feel like there may be some hidden gems of LSAT prep out there somewhere.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by acidwash » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:49 am

In addition to timed PTs, I've been doing earlier tests untimed. The last two untimed tests I've gotten a 172 and 174. But my timed PTs have generally been way lower than that; 164-167 range. I really didn't think the timing was such a big issue for me, but I guess it is? Anyway, I'm shooting for 170+ on the real thing, so I feel relatively confident about it.

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Post by Shakawkaw » Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:52 am

acidwash wrote:In addition to timed PTs, I've been doing earlier tests untimed. The last two untimed tests I've gotten a 172 and 174. But my timed PTs have generally been way lower than that; 164-167 range. I really didn't think the timing was such a big issue for me, but I guess it is? Anyway, I'm shooting for 170+ on the real thing, so I feel relatively confident about it.
This means you've got the strategies down, but now you need to focus on doing timed sections to get your accuracy and timing down to a T. How long do you usually take when you take untimed PTs? Have you been drilling by question type at all?

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Post by TheWalkingDebt » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:51 pm

ccordero wrote:everyone is scoring so well! and i'm still sitting here all like :cry:

It just takes time and diligence and perserverence, especially for us not as incredibly and naturally awesome at LSAT as OP. I've been studying about 4-6 hrs/day most days for 3 months (sans a week off in the middle of it all)

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by acidwash » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:01 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:
acidwash wrote:In addition to timed PTs, I've been doing earlier tests untimed. The last two untimed tests I've gotten a 172 and 174. But my timed PTs have generally been way lower than that; 164-167 range. I really didn't think the timing was such a big issue for me, but I guess it is? Anyway, I'm shooting for 170+ on the real thing, so I feel relatively confident about it.
This means you've got the strategies down, but now you need to focus on doing timed sections to get your accuracy and timing down to a T. How long do you usually take when you take untimed PTs? Have you been drilling by question type at all?

On the untimed PTs, I would estimate I'm taking ~5-10 minutes more per section than the real thing? I have been drilling by question type, but only from the Kaplan Mastery book and LGs by type. I could probably stand to do more of this, though.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by nlee10 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:02 pm

ccordero wrote:everyone is scoring so well! and i'm still sitting here all like :cry:
It takes time. I've been at these study threads since at least late August.

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Post by biggestlawman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:38 pm

Sup, puppies! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Post by biggestlawman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:39 pm

nlee10 wrote:
ccordero wrote:everyone is scoring so well! and i'm still sitting here all like :cry:
It takes time. I've been at these study threads since at least late August.

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Post by biggestlawman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:51 pm

What is everyone's undergrad/grad debt like? Give a range.

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Post by RZ5646 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:00 pm

biggestlawman wrote:What is everyone's undergrad/grad debt like? Give a range.
55-65k, which is why I need to get full tuition for LS. :oops: I made some very poor decisions as an 18 year old (though the complete lack of guidance and financial assistance from my parents didn't help either) :cry:

There are so many things I'd change if I could do it over, and I never waste a chance to drag clueless high schoolers back from the edge when they get starry-eyed about some expensive college's flashy new buildings and luxurious dorms.
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biggestlawman wrote:What is everyone's undergrad/grad debt like? Give a range.
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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by biggestlawman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:17 pm

RZ5646 wrote:
biggestlawman wrote:What is everyone's undergrad/grad debt like? Give a range.
55-65k, which is why I need to get full tuition for LS. :oops: I made some very poor decisions as an 18 year old (though the complete lack of guidance and financial assistance from my parents didn't help either) :cry:

There are so many things I'd change if I could do it over, and I never waste a chance to drag clueless high schoolers back from the edge when they get starry-eyed about some expensive college's flashy new buildings and luxurious dorms.
55-65k isn't that bad.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by biggestlawman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:18 pm

I had ~100k. I paid it back in 8 years.

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Post by biggestlawman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:20 pm

nlee10 wrote:
biggestlawman wrote:What is everyone's undergrad/grad debt like? Give a range.
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Post by RZ5646 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:26 pm

It makes me mad because I could have gotten a respectable engineering degree for half that or an okay CS degree for almost nothing. But I chose to study philosophy at the expensive school. I was so fucking stupid.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by Rigo » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:27 pm

biggestlawman wrote:What is everyone's undergrad/grad debt like? Give a range.
Goose egg.

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by jumbocolumbo » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:30 pm

Roughly 25K for UG. I really had no clue what I was doing. :oops:
Luckily my parents are in a decent enough position to help me out with payments ATM.

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Post by biggestlawman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:32 pm

RZ5646 wrote:It makes me mad because I could have gotten a respectable engineering degree for half that or an okay CS degree for almost nothing. But I chose to study philosophy at the expensive school. I was so fucking stupid.
I am an engineer. Take it from me, Phil->Law is a better option than Engineering ->Stay in Engineering.

Reasons:
1. Salary cap is much lower in Engineering compared to Biglaw/Good Boutique Law (30% in top 10 LS).
2. Fate of an old engineer is nothing short of shameful, barring few exceptions.

(I don't know why I capped certain words, but, so be it! :wink: )

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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by biggestlawman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:42 pm

Rigo wrote:
biggestlawman wrote:What is everyone's undergrad/grad debt like? Give a range.
Goose egg.
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Re: The Official June 2015 Study Group

Post by monadologist » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:49 pm

PT64

LR1: -1
LG: -1
LR2: -5 (!)
RC: -3

-10 overall for 172

Don't know wtf happened in LR2, the wheels fell off somewhere, gonna have to review.
LR1 missed the damn VideoKing question (#20), that one is so tough.

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Post by TheWalkingDebt » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:12 pm

65 total from UG and MA. But I'm not nearly as debt-phobic as you all are. If you make on-time income-based repayments for 20 years, anything not paid off is forgiven. Also, my income-based repayments for the last 2 years have been zero (and will continue to be for the next 3-4 years if I go to LS). I'm sure most everyone here qualifies for the same level of IBR.

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Post by biggestlawman » Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:27 pm

TheWalkingDebt wrote:65 total from UG and MA. But I'm not nearly as debt-phobic as you all are. If you make on-time income-based repayments for 20 years, anything not paid off is forgiven. Also, my income-based repayments for the last 2 years have been zero (and will continue to be for the next 3-4 years if I go to LS). I'm sure most everyone here qualifies for the same level of IBR.
Says the guy whose name inspired the whole debt conversation. I thought you would say 200k from UG, and 100K from grad. Disappointed.

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