The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

Albus Dumbledore · Post by **Albus Dumbledore** » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:31 pm

50 days...

ms9 · Post by **ms9** » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:21 am

Albus Dumbledore wrote:50 days...

I read something that made me think about the anticipation and how it can be the worst part, even if you are a legendary wizard.

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/lsat-t ... out-rates/

jumbocolumbo · Post by **jumbocolumbo** » Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:19 pm

Welp, not sure what happened on LR yesterday:
PT 58: Scaled Score: 168
LR: -3
RC: -3
LG: -3
LR: -4

If I had done as well on LR as on my last two PT's this would have been another 173. I just really wasn't seeing the arguments yesterday. Time to get drillin'

Albus Dumbledore · Post by **Albus Dumbledore** » Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:11 pm

MikeSpivey wrote:
Albus Dumbledore wrote:50 days...
I read something that made me think about the anticipation and how it can be the worst part, even if you are a legendary wizard.

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/lsat-t ... out-rates/

Great plug for the website, by the way. I'd totally use your service if I were rich.

The thing is that we actually have a sense of how we would do on test day by doing PTs. If I am scoring below my target, I need to figure out if I have enough time to get my score up by test day. If I determine that I don't have enough time to reach my target based on the typical experiences of previous test takers in my score range, then like the Navy Seals in your example it would probably be in my interest to "drop out." I don't want a bad score to end up on my report. I know most schools only care about the highest score, but some schools still look at the whole set.

As for anticipation being the worst part, I don't necessarily agree or disagree. But I know that life is not the most exciting when you don't have anything to look forward to.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:30 pm

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ms9 · Post by **ms9** » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:05 pm

Albus Dumbledore wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:
I read something that made me think about the anticipation and how it can be the worst part, even if you are a legendary wizard.

http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/lsat-t ... out-rates/

Great plug for the website, by the way. I'd totally use your service if I were rich.

The thing is that we actually have a sense of how we would do on test day by doing PTs. If I am scoring below my target, I need to figure out if I have enough time to get my score up by test day. If I determine that I don't have enough time to reach my target based on the typical experiences of previous test takers in my score range, then like the Navy Seals in your example it would probably be in my interest to "drop out." I don't want a bad score to end up on my report. I know most schools only care about the highest score, but some schools still look at the whole set.

As for anticipation being the worst part, I don't necessarily agree or disagree. But I know that life is not the most exciting when you don't have anything to look forward to.[/

I bolded the two points that I agree with the most.

But hopefully it also helps.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:26 pm

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jumbocolumbo · Post by **jumbocolumbo** » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:25 pm

jumbocolumbo wrote:Welp, not sure what happened on LR yesterday:
PT 58: Scaled Score: 168
LR: -3
RC: -3
LG: -3
LR: -4

If I had done as well on LR as on my last two PT's this would have been another 173. I just really wasn't seeing the arguments yesterday. Time to get drillin'

Is it weird to quote myself or just narcissistic? I'm wondering if this drop in LR could be burnout. I've been hitting the LR pretty hard lately and I seem to just not be retaining stim info/ putting the pieces together. Thoughts? I may step away from LR for a few days and focus on RC for a while. Any reasons to not?

I'm also considering the possibility that my review hasn't been thorough enough.

Tycho · Post by **Tycho** » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:28 pm

Nothing like four hours of grouping games to round out the weekend. Considered PT'ing yesterday, but opted not to in favor of more drilling. Will try for four hours every day this week, split into two hours per sitting, the way my schedule works out.

TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:17 pm

jumbocolumbo wrote:
jumbocolumbo wrote:Welp, not sure what happened on LR yesterday:
PT 58: Scaled Score: 168
LR: -3
RC: -3
LG: -3
LR: -4

If I had done as well on LR as on my last two PT's this would have been another 173. I just really wasn't seeing the arguments yesterday. Time to get drillin'
Is it weird to quote myself or just narcissistic? I'm wondering if this drop in LR could be burnout. I've been hitting the LR pretty hard lately and I seem to just not be retaining stim info/ putting the pieces together. Thoughts? I may step away from LR for a few days and focus on RC for a while. Any reasons to not?

I'm also considering the possibility that my review hasn't been thorough enough.

I felt the same way yesterday and just took a cautionary day off. After hitting a personal best of 169, I hit two consectuvie 162's, which is unacceptable. One of them I tanked RC with a -11 after 4 or 5 -2's. I will probably take a PT tomorrow and drill some LR today.

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:57 pm

jumbocolumbo wrote:
jumbocolumbo wrote:Welp, not sure what happened on LR yesterday:
PT 58: Scaled Score: 168
LR: -3
RC: -3
LG: -3
LR: -4

If I had done as well on LR as on my last two PT's this would have been another 173. I just really wasn't seeing the arguments yesterday. Time to get drillin'
Is it weird to quote myself or just narcissistic? I'm wondering if this drop in LR could be burnout. I've been hitting the LR pretty hard lately and I seem to just not be retaining stim info/ putting the pieces together. Thoughts? I may step away from LR for a few days and focus on RC for a while. Any reasons to not?

I'm also considering the possibility that my review hasn't been thorough enough.

jumbocolumbo · Post by **jumbocolumbo** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:26 pm

TheWalkingDebt wrote: I felt the same way yesterday and just took a cautionary day off. After hitting a personal best of 169, I hit two consectuvie 162's, which is unacceptable. One of them I tanked RC with a -11 after 4 or 5 -2's. I will probably take a PT tomorrow and drill some LR today.

I think I'll take a day or two as well. I just hate to do it when test day is on the horizon. I think it will be good though. I still haven't wrapped up reviewing that last PT. Good luck.

Edit: I'm definitely going to finish that review today though.

lawjag2015 wrote:[Burnout is real. Practice and PTing needs to be done without loss of proper form. But, too many days off would mean couple days of recovery too!

Thanks for the advice. I won't take off too much time; two days max just to give my brain a rest and digest all that I've been learning.

Tycho · Post by **Tycho** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:28 pm

Gonna wrap up studying for today. Four hours of grouping games and Main Point q's. Redid some of the grouping games and did a few new ones, and went 30/30 on main point. Funny enough, I stumbled on a game that 7Sage classified as easy but had relatively little trouble with a "harder" one (I luckily made the key inference early on).

Will be back at it tomorrow. Splitting into two hour slots seems to work well, with longer study sessions on the weekends to build up endurance.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:52 pm

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Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:53 pm

gamerish wrote:Nothing like food poisoning to give you an excuse to not study for a few days.

So extra.

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:58 pm

Anyone hear take PT 52 and find both LR sections very easy? Went -3 combined, never did this well.

And Gamer, are you taking in June or October?

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:03 am

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jumbocolumbo · Post by **jumbocolumbo** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:09 am

gamerish wrote:Also, still wondering about this. Seems like all you can do is check Manhattan for an explanation which isn't really working for me.

I really only use Manhattan as a last resort. Staring at the Q and taking each individual piece of the stim to check its compatibility with the responses forces me to actively analyze my thought process and why the correct response is correct.

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:24 am

Love the Manhattan forums, but I feel like people sometimes over-analyze questions. IMHO Matt Sherman and Mary Adkins have the best explanations because they're succinct and show the thought process one should have when doing a question timed. This is just me though, some may like the longer explanations.

lawjag2015 · Post by **lawjag2015** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:41 pm

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monadologist · Post by **monadologist** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:45 pm

Checkin in for June exam. Wrote December and didn't do as well as I hoped.
Now back on the retake train.
Still in the cycle, so this might all be for naught.

Either way, just finished LGB again, gonna write PT64 today. Good luck to everyone.

nlee10 · Post by **nlee10** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:25 pm

I took PT 48 today.

LR1: 23/26
LG: 22/22
RC: 21/27
LR2: 21/26

A crazy -8 curve got me a 165.

Gluteus · Post by **Gluteus** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:29 pm

Getting a lot more out of the second read through of Manhattan LSAT than the first time around. There's a decent chance I'll be done the book phase of preparation by May 1st (with the exception of the occasional glance back for a specific question type). Then it's basically PTing/drilling/blind review

Aiming for 1 PT a day + blind review for the first 10 days of May. Not going to bother with the extra section until I get to the point where I'm PTing at or close to my desired score under regular circumstances.

TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:38 pm

The day off helped. Took PT 47 and hit a personal high of 171 with a BR of 172.

Made two stupid mistakes in LG apparently (haven't reviewed which ones I missed)

RC: -3
LR 1: -1
LR 2: -3
LG: -2

whacka · Post by **whacka** » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:51 pm