The Official September 2016 Study Group - WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS Forum

[Alexandros]

Fricking -5 and -1 on LR this morning. Four from misreading. Jfc. Sometimes I feel like I'm right back to square one with this test.

I seem to be under the weather w/ low-grade fever AGAIN. I'm gonna tough it out and drill this time, since I can't afford to take a break right now. I'll have to go see a doctor if this keeps up though.

[Mikey]

Fricking -5 and -1 on LR this morning. Four from misreading. Jfc. Sometimes I feel like I'm right back to square one with this test.

I seem to be under the weather w/ low-grade fever AGAIN. I'm gonna tough it out and drill this time, since I can't afford to take a break right now. I'll have to go see a doctor if this keeps up though.

I always feel like I'm back to square one with this test haha

[proteinshake]

Fricking -5 and -1 on LR this morning. Four from misreading. Jfc. Sometimes I feel like I'm right back to square one with this test.

I seem to be under the weather w/ low-grade fever AGAIN. I'm gonna tough it out and drill this time, since I can't afford to take a break right now. I'll have to go see a doctor if this keeps up though.

I feel you bro, went -6 total on LR on a PT yesterday. after BR it was -3. I missed some super easy questions off of not reading carefully enough. same thing happened on RC.

[Alexandros]

Fricking -5 and -1 on LR this morning. Four from misreading. Jfc. Sometimes I feel like I'm right back to square one with this test.

I seem to be under the weather w/ low-grade fever AGAIN. I'm gonna tough it out and drill this time, since I can't afford to take a break right now. I'll have to go see a doctor if this keeps up though.

I feel you bro, went -6 total on LR on a PT yesterday. after BR it was -3. I missed some super easy questions off of not reading carefully enough. same thing happened on RC.

It's so frustrating. And kinda terrifying that you can prep that much and everything, and still get completely slammed if your brain's not in gear.

[Instrumental]

The third RC passage in PT57 may top the chart as the most pretentious dryly written drivel I've ever had the misfortune of reading.

[mudiverse]

The third RC passage in PT57 may top the chart as the most pretentious dryly written drivel I've ever had the misfortune of reading.

The "thing not named" fails to excite the Russian literary critic in you?

[Instrumental]

The third RC passage in PT57 may top the chart as the most pretentious dryly written drivel I've ever had the misfortune of reading.

The "thing not named" fails to excite the Russian literary critic in you?

I think that was actually the point where I decided I want to die.

[proteinshake]

Fricking -5 and -1 on LR this morning. Four from misreading. Jfc. Sometimes I feel like I'm right back to square one with this test.

I seem to be under the weather w/ low-grade fever AGAIN. I'm gonna tough it out and drill this time, since I can't afford to take a break right now. I'll have to go see a doctor if this keeps up though.

I feel you bro, went -6 total on LR on a PT yesterday. after BR it was -3. I missed some super easy questions off of not reading carefully enough. same thing happened on RC.

It's so frustrating. And kinda terrifying that you can prep that much and everything, and still get completely slammed if your brain's not in gear.

don't worry, we'll get those 175s

[mudiverse]

The third RC passage in PT57 may top the chart as the most pretentious dryly written drivel I've ever had the misfortune of reading.

The "thing not named" fails to excite the Russian literary critic in you?

I think that was actually the point where I decided I want to die.

Save it for Sep. 25th, comrade.

[Mikey]

Save it for Sep. 25th, comrade.

I glanced at your name and thought it said "mauve" then I was thinking about the mauve dinosaur LG. I should get out more, sigh.

[mudiverse]

Save it for Sep. 25th, comrade.

I glanced at your name and thought it said "mauve" then I was thinking about the mauve dinosaur LG. I should get out more, sigh.

Think of me next time you practice test.

[Alexandros]

DONE FULL-TIME WORK. working 10 hours / week here on out and no classes until next Friday. HALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH. Let's do this.

[Alexandros]

The third RC passage in PT57 may top the chart as the most pretentious dryly written drivel I've ever had the misfortune of reading.

The "thing not named" fails to excite the Russian literary critic in you?

I think that was actually the point where I decided I want to die.

I think the best (read: worst) RC I've encountered was 64 passage 3 B. not particularly hard to follow, just an incredibly poor argument.

[34iplaw]

Fricking -5 and -1 on LR this morning. Four from misreading. Jfc. Sometimes I feel like I'm right back to square one with this test.

I seem to be under the weather w/ low-grade fever AGAIN. I'm gonna tough it out and drill this time, since I can't afford to take a break right now. I'll have to go see a doctor if this keeps up though.

I feel you bro, went -6 total on LR on a PT yesterday. after BR it was -3. I missed some super easy questions off of not reading carefully enough. same thing happened on RC.

It's so frustrating. And kinda terrifying that you can prep that much and everything, and still get completely slammed if your brain's not in gear.

don't worry, we'll get those 175s

WE ARE THE 0.30%ILE?

Isn't it a little ridiculous that there are five points on a test to parse out the 0.30% of test takers from each other when you think about it?

[Mikey]

Save it for Sep. 25th, comrade.

I glanced at your name and thought it said "mauve" then I was thinking about the mauve dinosaur LG. I should get out more, sigh.

Think of me next time you practice test.

that sounded kinky af

just me?

[Mikey]

I'm curious as to what my fellow Septemberers(?) do in LG. Do you guys 100% brute force your way through the LG section, or do you attempt to solve for all possibilities and brute force when you can't??

I try to do the latter but always find myself just doing the former most often using the whole "Do the 'IF' questions first" thing.

[ashrice13]

I'm curious as to what my fellow Septemberers(?) do in LG. Do you guys 100% brute force your way through the LG section, or do you attempt to solve for all possibilities and brute force when you can't??

I try to do the latter but always find myself just doing the former most often using the whole "Do the 'IF' questions first" thing.

I try to solve all the possibilities but there are a lot of games where it isn't possible...of course sometimes I feel like there's no way that the game board can be split up and then JY does it like its the most obvious thing in the world

[ashrice13]

Just got a 171 after BR for PT58. I'm finally feeling like I understand the concepts...I just gotta work on not letting stress and timing affect me

[Instrumental]

I'm curious as to what my fellow Septemberers(?) do in LG. Do you guys 100% brute force your way through the LG section, or do you attempt to solve for all possibilities and brute force when you can't??

I try to do the latter but always find myself just doing the former most often using the whole "Do the 'IF' questions first" thing.

I number and rewrite each rule, I work out any inferences I can get from the clues, fill out the board as much as I can and then I attack the problems.

[Mikey]

I'm curious as to what my fellow Septemberers(?) do in LG. Do you guys 100% brute force your way through the LG section, or do you attempt to solve for all possibilities and brute force when you can't??

I try to do the latter but always find myself just doing the former most often using the whole "Do the 'IF' questions first" thing.

I try to solve all the possibilities but there are a lot of games where it isn't possible...of course sometimes I feel like there's no way that the game board can be split up and then JY does it like its the most obvious thing in the world

Haha yeah! When i find something ehh on LG, then watch JY do it like it's second nature, I'm like "well I guess i just freaking suck don't I???!!!??"

[Pozzo]

I'm curious as to what my fellow Septemberers(?) do in LG. Do you guys 100% brute force your way through the LG section, or do you attempt to solve for all possibilities and brute force when you can't??

I try to do the latter but always find myself just doing the former most often using the whole "Do the 'IF' questions first" thing.

Septemberers, I like it...

I tend to solve for multiple worlds only if there's an obviously restrictive rule, like, "L must be first or last," or if I can get to that kind of restriction on inferences. I find that I err on the side of trying to force multiple boards when the game doesn't lend itself to it, and that I lose a lot of time doing that way. Here's my general process:

1. Set up pieces and board
2. Symbolize rules
3. Combine rules, make inferences, and represent on the master board when possible.
4. Pause, look to see if I can split.
5. Deep breath.
6. Let the questions drive.

Mixed results, so take it with a grain of salt.

[Pozzo]

I'm sitting here at work drafting an email, and I realize that LSAT has ruined me forever. I need the number of people not meeting 2 specific parts of their performance standard, and I'm obsessing over the logic of the sentence, running contrapositives, losing my ever-loving mind. "Not meeting both x and y..." no, that's not it... "Meeting neither x nor y..." wait, is that the same as what I just typed...? "not meeting x and not meeting y...." maybe?????

Damn you, LSAT. Damn you.

[ashrice13]

I'm sitting here at work drafting an email, and I realize that LSAT has ruined me forever. I need the number of people not meeting 2 specific parts of their performance standard, and I'm obsessing over the logic of the sentence, running contrapositives, losing my ever-loving mind. "Not meeting both x and y..." no, that's not it... "Meeting neither x nor y..." wait, is that the same as what I just typed...? "not meeting x and not meeting y...." maybe?????

Damn you, LSAT. Damn you.

It's so odd how this test creeps into life. I use the term "inference" about 15 times a day.

[34iplaw]

I'm curious as to what my fellow Septemberers(?) do in LG. Do you guys 100% brute force your way through the LG section, or do you attempt to solve for all possibilities and brute force when you can't??

I try to do the latter but always find myself just doing the former most often using the whole "Do the 'IF' questions first" thing.

TBH - I'm not certain that I write as much as I should. I don't think that I've ever totally brute forced a problem in the conventional sense. Currently, averaging -2 with a 5+ min to spare... one generally missed from carelessness and the other is typically early on when I still feel too rushed and "need" to just get on rather than testing it. From now on, I'll make sure to test every answer that's not a straight rule/inference.

Typically, I read through the stimulus and jot the variables (usually I'll write grouping characteristics in lower case and actual variables in upper case... I think it's far easier than some superscript/subscript nonsense.)

I then do my best to push the rules together to see if I can get any really *gnarly* inference. If the board is fairly empty and we are given some block, I will place it. If it's the type of game with only a few outcomes, I rarely master the possibilities, as I can do that in my head fairly easily.

When doing the questions, I typically read all the answers before I write anything. I've had too many experiences where I work on something and then see something that is just *obscenely* obvious. I typically give myself a few seconds to process, as it's honestly pretty rare that you should really need to brute force. When I don't feel rush, I'll test the answer the relevant way to check.

For some game types I may have some sort of particular way of doing things. I don't really do a logic chain, but I do one (in a way) when I diagram the rules. I basically diagram rules for conditional games jaggedly. It sort of makes the relationships really clear in my mind.

i.e. if given J -> Y; Y -> Z; If X, no Z; I'll write...

J -> Y
.....Y -> Z
..........Z->noX

when answering questions on the in/out games, I rarely ever write a gameboard. I basically just note what must be in and what must be out... if they give X, I'll just jot below it X -> no Z -> no Y and go to the answers.

Did a relatively light day... going to get dinner and do some java. Tomorrow I'll do a PT...

Today was (first two I read before my last PT but didn't look at questions)...

Dec 91 P1; 7:30; 7/7
Jun 00 P2; 5:40; 7/7
Dec 05 P1; 4:50; 3/5 (one of these was a really stupid misread...I thought it meant view in first paragraph; not third)
Dec 00 P1; 7:00; 7/7
Oct 92 P3; 9:30; 8/8 (most verbose passage/question set ever?)
Feb 99 P2; 8:00; 5/7
Oct 93 P1; 9:00; 5/6 (kind of a crappy question IMO)
Feb 92 P1; 8:30; 5/6

Missed some from reading too much into the text.

[20170322]

Taking a PT tomorrow! Wish me luck