The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:46 am

gamerish wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:What games are these? Are they unusually hard (as denoted by the difficulty dots 7sage assigns the questions)?

How do you do with the examples in the LGB? Those seem ordered by difficulty, starting fairly easy.
They're probably amongst the easiest games...

They're basic ordering games and they're from the examples in the LGB. I used the 5 games that they put at the end of the basic ordering chapter back to back as drills. The highest amount of time I recall JY mentioning one should spend on any of the games being about 8 minutes. So I'm in really, really bad shape...

179orBust wrote:gamerish, that was so fucking funny.
Not for me it isn't. ):

Maybe consider purchasing the Blueprint LG book or enrolling in Velocity for LG. Heard both are really good. And don't worry, you have plenty of time to get these issues fixed. Don't be discouraged. Better that you're having a problem with LG, as opposed to RC/LR where it's more difficult to make improvements.

JackelJ · Post by **JackelJ** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:30 am

179orBust wrote: Maybe consider purchasing the Blueprint LG book or enrolling in Velocity for LG. Heard both are really good. And don't worry, you have plenty of time to get these issues fixed. Don't be discouraged. Better that you're having a problem with LG, as opposed to RC/LR where it's more difficult to make improvements.

yea don't worry GYG, you'll get better soon

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:00 pm

gamerish wrote:
RZ5646 wrote:What games are these? Are they unusually hard (as denoted by the difficulty dots 7sage assigns the questions)?

How do you do with the examples in the LGB? Those seem ordered by difficulty, starting fairly easy.
They're probably amongst the easiest games...

They're basic ordering games and they're from the examples in the LGB. I used the 5 games that they put at the end of the basic ordering chapter back to back as drills. The highest amount of time I recall JY mentioning one should spend on any of the games being about 8 minutes. So I'm in really, really bad shape...

179orBust wrote:gamerish, that was so fucking funny.
Not for me it isn't. ):

I just redid those to show you improvement will come with time.

First attempt:
6/7 -- 11:00
5/5 -- 8:57
5/5 -- 12:20
6/6 -- 9:37
6/7 -- 10:40

3-4 weeks later:
7/7 -- 5:40
5/5 -- 5:20
5/5 -- 5:19
6/6 -- 5:26
7/7 -- 7:45

Hang in there. Also, I don't think it's necessary to completely master a game type before moving on, since the different types develop many of the same skills.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:08 pm

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Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:28 pm

Just be patient GYG. You have 5 months to improve on one section--easily the most learnable section too. It's frustrating in the beginning, especially when putting too much pressure on timing over fundamentals, but I promise you you'll get a hang of it. Prepare to be more frustrated when you get to harder games, but remain resilient and learn to roll with the punches. Every minute put towards prep is a minute well spent.

NL2424 · Post by **NL2424** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:57 pm

monadologist · Post by **monadologist** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:42 pm

Checking in. December was a trainwreck, was PTing around ~170 range and ended up with a 160. Avoided TLS and anything LSAT related like the plague until now. Here's to a better write in June! Maybe I'll see some familiar faces who were in the Dec study group

Edit - Dirigo are you retaking? How did you do on Dec?

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:43 pm

monadologist wrote:Checking in. December was a trainwreck, was PTing around ~170 range and ended up with a 160. Avoided TLS and anything LSAT related like the plague until now. Here's to a better write in June! Maybe I'll see some familiar faces who were in the Dec study group

Familiar face here. Welcome back.

monadologist · Post by **monadologist** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:44 pm

Hey man! i just edited to ask how you're doin. How'd dec go?
How'd GT and the other regulars do? I'm totally out of the loop and I'd loved to be filled in so I don't feel like i'm the only one who fucked it all up. Haha.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:48 pm

monadologist wrote:Hey man! i just edited to ask how you're doin. How'd dec go?

167, so not devastating, but definitely fell short.

LR1: -2
LR2: -6 (have yet to review what went wrong here; stupid errors I'm sure)
RC: -4
LG: -4 (bungled game 4)

monadologist · Post by **monadologist** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:54 pm

Dirigo wrote:
monadologist wrote:Hey man! i just edited to ask how you're doin. How'd dec go?
167, so not devastating, but definitely fell short.

LR1: -2
LR2: -6 (have yet to review what went wrong here; stupid errors I'm sure)
RC: -4
LG: -4 (bungled game 4)

That is a great score! In Canada you'd be competitive everywhere. I still have to review PT74 but that'll come later. Anyways it's good to see you back here, best of luck for June!

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:11 pm

monadologist wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
monadologist wrote:Hey man! i just edited to ask how you're doin. How'd dec go?
167, so not devastating, but definitely fell short.
LR1: -2
LR2: -6 (have yet to review what went wrong here; stupid errors I'm sure)
RC: -4
LG: -4 (bungled game 4)
That is a great score! In Canada you'd be competitive everywhere. I still have to review PT74 but that'll come later. Anyways it's good to see you back here, best of luck for June!

Damn USA. But thank you! Back at you!
I have yet to start back up studying. Once February rolls around, I need y'all to yell at me.

monadologist · Post by **monadologist** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:45 pm

Dirigo wrote:
monadologist wrote:
Dirigo wrote:
monadologist wrote:Hey man! i just edited to ask how you're doin. How'd dec go?
167, so not devastating, but definitely fell short.
LR1: -2
LR2: -6 (have yet to review what went wrong here; stupid errors I'm sure)
RC: -4
LG: -4 (bungled game 4)
That is a great score! In Canada you'd be competitive everywhere. I still have to review PT74 but that'll come later. Anyways it's good to see you back here, best of luck for June!
Damn USA. But thank you! Back at you!
I have yet to start back up studying. Once February rolls around, I need y'all to yell at me.

Yeah, its a rough start for me too. Trying to reread to LGB is brutal haha. Oh well. Off we go!

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:55 am

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RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:20 am

Writing on a separate paper probably slowed you down. Besides the time it takes your eyes to look back and forth, I thought it was a lot harder to keep things straight when I had to keep looking away from the answer choices, couldn't cross them out, etc.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:21 am

RZ5646 wrote:Writing on a separate paper probably slowed you down. Besides the time it takes your eyes to look back and forth, I thought it was a lot harder to keep things straight when I had to keep looking away from the answer choices, couldn't cross them out, etc.

This.

But congrats GYG. Small victories are still victories.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:45 am

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179orBust · Post by **179orBust** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:02 am

No worse feeling than thinking a reading comp passage is difficult only to see that Cambridge rated it a 1. Fuckin science passages.

NonTradLawHopeful · Post by **NonTradLawHopeful** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:16 am

RZ5646 wrote:Writing on a separate paper probably slowed you down. Besides the time it takes your eyes to look back and forth, I thought it was a lot harder to keep things straight when I had to keep looking away from the answer choices, couldn't cross them out, etc.

And looking at the wrong answer choices...I do that a lot and then spend about 5 minutes wondering why none of the answer choices are valid.

a_parm · Post by **a_parm** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:16 pm

just went through 7sage main conclusion lesson. Planning on drilling main conclusion packet today. Should i do the whole packet or just a few from each level?

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:20 pm

a_parm wrote:just went through 7sage main conclusion lesson. Planning on drilling main conclusion packet today. Should i do the whole packet or just a few from each level?

I'd do 20-30 questions of mixed difficulty, and then BR after completing.

15chocolate · Post by **15chocolate** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:16 pm

Hi,
I was thinking to enroll 7sage's curriculum. I read most of Manhattan's books already and wonder how 7sage would be helpful...especially for LR. Do they provide lots of different explanations?
Which 7sage prep course are you guys enrolling?

a_parm · Post by **a_parm** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:41 pm

15chocolate wrote:Hi,
I was thinking to enroll 7sage's curriculum. I read most of Manhattan's books already and wonder how 7sage would be helpful...especially for LR. Do they provide lots of different explanations?
Which 7sage prep course are you guys enrolling?

I enrolled in the $179 course. Other courses just provide more practice sets and more PTs. I already have all PTs. They do provide several explanations for each topic. If you sign up on their site, then go to course, it will show you each item thats included with each course.

CPAlawHopefu · Post by **CPAlawHopefu** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:26 pm

So I just finished the Basic Ordering portion of Cambridge Drill all the way up to level 4. I finished every level 1 & 2 questions under 8 minutes with -0 on most of them (except two, which I missed 1 each), and finished both level 3 & 4 questions all under 12 minutes, managed -0 on all except one (-2).

I'm happy but at the same time just concerned that these drill are too basic to prepare for the real one. Will the drill package get harder for other sections?