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Post by brusselsprouts » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:19 am

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JackelJ wrote:
Smallville wrote:so I feel like lately with some questions I answer I tend to pick an answer based off the AC more than anything else. Like it just is exactly the type of answer I would expect (but not in a prephase kind of way, but as a structure/wording way) if that makes sense
Like depending on the scope and/or how weak or strong the modality of the answer choice is?
yeah kinda
Sometimes with particularly difficult questions I find the only way I can figure it out with any certainty is eliminating anwers because their structure or modality (sometimes) are wrong. I feel like it's a bad habit but I'm not sure how else to approach super difficult LR

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by nlee10 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:28 am

Smallville wrote:
JackelJ wrote:
Smallville wrote:so I feel like lately with some questions I answer I tend to pick an answer based off the AC more than anything else. Like it just is exactly the type of answer I would expect (but not in a prephase kind of way, but as a structure/wording way) if that makes sense
Like depending on the scope and/or how weak or strong the modality of the answer choice is?
yeah kinda
I sorta do that too sometimes...mainly because I improved a lot in being able to quickly eliminate 2-3 answer choices.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by GreenTee » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:41 am

The strategy Clark Kent is talking about is really dangerous, guys. LSAC knows which answer types tend to seem correct, and that's how they design convincing trap answers. If you don't understand why the credited response is absolutely 100% logically required by the combination of stimulus & task, you should make sure to review that question extensively. The "this sounds right/follows the usual pattern" strategy might net you some correct answers occasionally, but it's a very dangerous path to walk.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Shakawkaw » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:55 am

GreenTee wrote:The strategy Clark Kent is talking about is really dangerous, guys. LSAC knows which answer types tend to seem correct, and that's how they design convincing trap answers. If you don't understand why the credited response is absolutely 100% logically required by the combination of stimulus & task, you should make sure to review that question extensively. The "this sounds right/follows the usual pattern" strategy might net you some correct answers occasionally, but it's a very dangerous path to walk.
I understood Small's strategy to mean, for example, how if you're doing a Nec. Assump. question, most of the time, the answer will not include strong load-bearing language like "most" or "all," whereas a Suf. Assumption would.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by nlee10 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:58 am

Shakawkaw wrote:
GreenTee wrote:The strategy Clark Kent is talking about is really dangerous, guys. LSAC knows which answer types tend to seem correct, and that's how they design convincing trap answers. If you don't understand why the credited response is absolutely 100% logically required by the combination of stimulus & task, you should make sure to review that question extensively. The "this sounds right/follows the usual pattern" strategy might net you some correct answers occasionally, but it's a very dangerous path to walk.
I understood Small's strategy to mean, for example, how if you're doing a Nec. Assump. question, most of the time, the answer will not include strong load-bearing language like "most" or "all," whereas a Suf. Assumption would.
lol. Yeah, I was taught by BP that MSS and Necessary Assumptions "tend" to have weaker language as the TCR.

But I can see what GT is talking about though. If you blindly choose the weaker AC on these question types 100% of the time, that may get you to 160 but probably not too much higher. I'm pretty sure my classmates took that literally and always picked the weaker AC.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by GreenTee » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:00 pm

Sure, looking out for that kind of language is a useful benchmark sometimes, but it's not what makes the answer correct/incorrect. LSAC could easily phrase a correct NA with the word "most" or "all" in it, and they have done so in the past. What makes a NA correct is that it is a necessary assumption. (lol) Generalizing verbal cues out of context is not going to help you with the real issue at hand.
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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Shakawkaw » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:01 pm

GreenTee wrote:Sure, looking out for that kind of language is a useful benchmark sometimes, but it's not what makes the answer correct/incorrect. LSAC could easily phrase a correct NA with the word "most" or "all" in it, and they have done so in the past. What makes a NA correct is that it is a necessary assumption. Generalizing verbal cues out of context is not going to help you with the real issue at hand.
That's why I love the LOLSAT.

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Post by Shakawkaw » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:01 pm

Nec. Ass.
Suff. Ass.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Smallville » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:04 pm

Shakawkaw wrote:
GreenTee wrote:The strategy Clark Kent is talking about is really dangerous, guys. LSAC knows which answer types tend to seem correct, and that's how they design convincing trap answers. If you don't understand why the credited response is absolutely 100% logically required by the combination of stimulus & task, you should make sure to review that question extensively. The "this sounds right/follows the usual pattern" strategy might net you some correct answers occasionally, but it's a very dangerous path to walk.
I understood Small's strategy to mean, for example, how if you're doing a Nec. Assump. question, most of the time, the answer will not include strong load-bearing language like "most" or "all," whereas a Suf. Assumption would.
was actually doing NAss when I said that lol but yeah I dont see language and pick it, I guess it more eliminates ACs easier and then get confirmation from stimulus

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Post by GreenTee » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:06 pm

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Shakawkaw » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:12 pm

GreenTee wrote:The easy way is almost never the best way.

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The hard way is almost always the best way.

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by kang » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:18 pm

So just FYI: PT 74 is out on 7sage!

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Post by Smallville » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:21 pm

kang wrote:So just FYI: PT 74 is out on 7sage!
oh weird, they released it a day early lol only $6 get on dat peeps

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Dr. Nefario » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:22 pm

Printed the wrong PT, so I'm taking PT 74 instead of PT 69 as soon as I finish lunch.

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Post by Shakawkaw » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:25 pm

RaiderRed wrote:Printed the wrong PT, so I'm taking PT 74 instead of PT 69 as soon as I finish lunch.
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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:40 pm

kang wrote:So just FYI: PT 74 is out on 7sage!
thanks, I forgot all about the sale!

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by nlee10 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:47 pm

I see that scholarly is back. :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Smallville » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:50 pm

nlee10 wrote:I see that scholarly is back. :lol: :lol:
yeah... I really wanna know who he is.... cant imagine him not being an alt
eta: also was gunna say something about him earlier but didnt wanna be the reason he hops in here lol

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:52 pm

Smallville wrote:
nlee10 wrote:I see that scholarly is back. :lol: :lol:
yeah... I really wanna know who he is.... cant imagine him not being an alt
I've been loling about that thread :lol:
and idk unless the 2 pws I saw of him were someone else (possible) I don't think he is an alt of anyone who's posted ITT

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by Smallville » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:54 pm

JackelJ wrote:
Smallville wrote:
nlee10 wrote:I see that scholarly is back. :lol: :lol:
yeah... I really wanna know who he is.... cant imagine him not being an alt
I've been loling about that thread :lol:
and idk unless the 2 pws I saw of him were someone else (possible) I don't think he is an alt of anyone who's posted ITT
never said he was :P

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Re: The Official February 2015 Study Group

Post by JackelJ » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:59 pm

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