The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

ChoboPie · Post by **ChoboPie** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:24 pm

RZ5646 wrote: Just be prepared for nasty looks when you use the building's only public printer to print out 400 pages of PTs.

This. I hate people who do this.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 3:44 pm

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Albus Dumbledore · Post by **Albus Dumbledore** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:24 pm

acidwash wrote:Hey, does anyone know where i can find test explanations for PTs 57 onward? Or do those not exist at all? I have a bunch of Kaplan Test Explanations but they only go up to PT 56.

There are video explanations on Velocity Test Prep for the PTs for which you need explanations.
http://www.velocitylsat.com/free-lsat-prep-videos

There are written explanations for some of them on LSAT Hacks.
http://lsathacks.com/explanations/

For LG, I prefer the more detailed video explanations at 7Sage.
http://7sage.com/logic-game-explanations/

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:59 pm

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TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:25 pm

gamerish wrote:Drilling level 1 LR questions boosted my confidence way too much. Drilled 100 level 1 questions (weaken, strengthen, flaw) and went -2 and then did a single packet (18 questions) of level 2 flaw questions and went -4.

Regardless, I'm taking my first PT tomorrow (June 2011). Scared as hell.

ETA: Should I print out two copies of the test (one for the actual take and one for BR)?

I would print out two scantrons and just use one test to save paper. I cross letters out on the timed and then mark on the right of the AC's on the BR usually.

acidwash · Post by **acidwash** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:46 pm

Albus Dumbledore wrote:
acidwash wrote:Hey, does anyone know where i can find test explanations for PTs 57 onward? Or do those not exist at all? I have a bunch of Kaplan Test Explanations but they only go up to PT 56.
There are video explanations on Velocity Test Prep for the PTs for which you need explanations.
http://www.velocitylsat.com/free-lsat-prep-videos

There are written explanations for some of them on LSAT Hacks.
http://lsathacks.com/explanations/

For LG, I prefer the more detailed video explanations at 7Sage.
http://7sage.com/logic-game-explanations/

awesome, thank you.

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:52 pm

gamerish wrote:Drilling level 1 LR questions boosted my confidence way too much. Drilled 100 level 1 questions (weaken, strengthen, flaw) and went -2 and then did a single packet (18 questions) of level 2 flaw questions and went -4.

Regardless, I'm taking my first PT tomorrow (June 2011). Scared as hell.

ETA: Should I print out two copies of the test (one for the actual take and one for BR)?

Good luck on your PT tomorrow!

Today I drilled 10 In/Out games. Went -2 with good timing so I'm happy.

jwelsh · Post by **jwelsh** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:47 pm

I did 10 LGs today (Simple and Complex Ordering and one In/Out Grouping). Timing felt good and accuracy was also solid. One thing that I've noticed is the value of eliminating answers that are clearly wrong. Yes, there are certainly problems that you can identify the right answer and be off to the races, but a lot of questions are expedited by knocking off the answers that are clearly wrong first. I'm glad I'm starting to recognize that.

Albus Dumbledore · Post by **Albus Dumbledore** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:18 am

I just redid the LG on PT 33. I've seen these games before, so I finished Games 1 and 4 in just over 6 minutes. I finished Game 2 in under 8. But the third game (about a jeweler with rubies, sapphires, and topazes) destroyed me again. I got all of them right, but it took me 14.5 minutes to do. I think trying to split the game board was a bad idea. There were just too many possibilities. It didn't really help. I think these grouping games where the numerical distribution is not fixed may be my least favorite type of LG. Sometimes it helps to split. Other times it doesn't, but I guess that's true for other games as well.

Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:28 am

gamerish wrote: Regardless, I'm taking my first PT tomorrow (June 2011). Scared as hell.

Sending positive vibes.

jumbocolumbo · Post by **jumbocolumbo** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:43 pm

gamerish wrote:Regardless, I'm taking my first PT tomorrow (June 2011). Scared as hell.

PT day for me as well. Godspeed! IT'S GO-TIME!

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:07 pm

I read the Manhattan LR chapter on principle support questions and now I'm drilling those questions. Going well so far! Watching the Tigers game @ 4 while enjoying a (probably several) delicious local Double IPA is my motivation to get through most of the 96 questions in the packet.

Best of luck to those PTing today!

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:53 pm

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Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:53 pm

Woohoo! Congrats!
Once you get the hang of LG, it's not bad at all.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:04 pm

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Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:07 pm

gamerish wrote: I'm really happy and feeling pretty optimistic at this point which is not where I thought I'd be at all.

You're on great track for October.

jumbocolumbo · Post by **jumbocolumbo** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:23 pm

I'm definitely feeling a strong urge to skip blind review and rush to the answers right now, but I am going to practice self-control.

The Abyss · Post by **The Abyss** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:34 pm

gamerish wrote:I couldn't wait for it to be scored so I had my friend score it for me so I could still BR it without knowing what I got wrong.

Score was 165 up from 156 on my diagnostic.

LG was -2 (up from -12)
LR 1 was -6 (up from -7)
LR 2 was -6 (up from -7)
RC was -3 (no change)

I've only been studying LR was like a week and a half so I wasn't expecting a huge improvement. Both sections were time issues rather than accuracy issues. Same goes for RC - all the questions I missed were in the last passage which I got to at the 5 minute warning.

I'm really happy and feeling pretty optimistic at this point which is not where I thought I'd be at all.

I'll second Rigo in saying that you are in great position for October. Good job!

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:13 pm

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TheWalkingDebt · Post by **TheWalkingDebt** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:42 pm

Nice progress Gamer. I'm sitting at 165 as my high too from 151. Signed up for June and hoping to drop my LR incorrect pretty significantly before deciding whether to take or postpone.

Good to see you're getting the hang of LG though. The timing is tough, especially when you aren't sure how difficult upcoming games will be.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:20 pm

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Rigo · Post by **Rigo** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:23 pm

"Easy" is relative. Maybe they only seemed easy because you've been working hard and gotten a lot better.

gamerish · Post by **gamerish** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:35 pm

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ccordero · Post by **ccordero** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:07 am

Work has picked up quite heavily so I haven't had a lot of chance to actually study much lately (or even post here on TLS). Every weekend until June is now a study day.

Today, I managed to get drill through about 150 LR questions. I'm not sure if that's a lot, but I'll need to pick up steam and do more tomorrow as well. It's 2AM and I'm eating pizza trying to relax after a day of studying (lol). I'll probably wake up early and do a section or two before more drilling.