The Official September 2017 Study Group Forum

[Anon-e-miss]

I would prefer for DCN to freak out and give me a full ride

Only 500 are allowed to apply a year, that way they have to give us money!

Do you think PI gunner ambition disincentives schools from giving big $$$ since the student can just ride PSLF/LRAP and then (unless you are YHSC) the feds will foot most of the bill? Or am I neurotic?

if your PI or bust, NYU has scholarships of your choosing and CLS has something, it starts with R. Both are raised to get than a Hammy or Vanderbilt so I think if you sell your PS as "I don't want corporate under any circumstance " they'll bite

RTK is my goal outcome but I don't think one year of public service after UG will give me a worthwhile shot at it. Columbia PI fellowships are more low-key which seems promising, but they do not seem to have a separate app so it seems more randomized, for better or worse

[oopsu812]

I'm just jealous of people who know exactly what they want. I suffer from interestedinfuckingeverythingitis

[elliedawn]

I'm just jealous of people who know exactly what they want. I suffer from interestedinfuckingeverythingitis

Same. The moment I start thinking about law school, I start to think if I should pursue a graduate degree instead. But which graduate degree? Should I consider a graduate degree, and then pursue a law degree? Maybe I should just settle for a Masters in Public Policy. It's all too much.

[dj9i27]

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[chewinggum]

I just bought new workout shoes and now I'm poor.

I'm throwing a viewing party for game 4 and am poor just thinking about it

[chargers21]

I'm just jealous of people who know exactly what they want. I suffer from interestedinfuckingeverythingitis

Same. The moment I start thinking about law school, I start to think if I should pursue a graduate degree instead. But which graduate degree? Should I consider a graduate degree, and then pursue a law degree? Maybe I should just settle for a Masters in Public Policy. It's all too much.

Pay lots of money, decide what you want to be later. Regret decision. Have mental breakdown. Go back to living with parents because that's when things were simple.

[dj9i27]

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[oopsu812]

I'm just jealous of people who know exactly what they want. I suffer from interestedinfuckingeverythingitis

Same. The moment I start thinking about law school, I start to think if I should pursue a graduate degree instead. But which graduate degree? Should I consider a graduate degree, and then pursue a law degree? Maybe I should just settle for a Masters in Public Policy. It's all too much.

I'm going to get a Masters in Public Policy or International Affairs or something in that vein and work a bit before committing to LS (or not). If I do though, hoping to go to LS around 25-26, settle down somewhere by 30ish, retire ASAP. This will likely never happen.

[chargers21]

I'm just jealous of people who know exactly what they want. I suffer from interestedinfuckingeverythingitis

Same. The moment I start thinking about law school, I start to think if I should pursue a graduate degree instead. But which graduate degree? Should I consider a graduate degree, and then pursue a law degree? Maybe I should just settle for a Masters in Public Policy. It's all too much.

Pay lots of money, decide what you want to be later. Regret decision. Have mental breakdown. Go back to living with parents because that's when things were simple.

This part I disagree with.

My parents are my best friends so perhaps I'm biased

[Alexandros]

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[oopsu812]

I'm just jealous of people who know exactly what they want. I suffer from interestedinfuckingeverythingitis

Same. The moment I start thinking about law school, I start to think if I should pursue a graduate degree instead. But which graduate degree? Should I consider a graduate degree, and then pursue a law degree? Maybe I should just settle for a Masters in Public Policy. It's all too much.

I'm going to get a Masters in Public Policy or International Affairs or something in that vein and work a bit before committing to LS (or not). If I do though, hoping to go to LS around 25-26, settle down somewhere by 30ish, retire ASAP. This will likely never happen.

That's the way to do it imo.

Have I figured out how to do life??? Nice.

[Alexandros]

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[Rupert Pupkin]

I'm just jealous of people who know exactly what they want. I suffer from interestedinfuckingeverythingitis

Same. The moment I start thinking about law school, I start to think if I should pursue a graduate degree instead. But which graduate degree? Should I consider a graduate degree, and then pursue a law degree? Maybe I should just settle for a Masters in Public Policy. It's all too much.

I'm going to get a Masters in Public Policy or International Affairs or something in that vein and work a bit before committing to LS (or not). If I do though, hoping to go to LS around 25-26, settle down somewhere by 30ish, retire ASAP. This will likely never happen.

That's the way to do it imo.

I have known what I am interested in for a while now, but I did a master's degree and will be working; by the time I attend LS, I will have a better perspective on the world, learning, and now have truly validated what Im interested in. Also, I think as you are more mature with different experiences you can attack LS on a better footing and give yourself a competitive advantage.

Just before moving forward and spending money on a master's know how it can truly help you down the road. I wouldn't do it just because you are unsure and just on cold feet in regards to attending LS. If it generally interests you and you think it could be a possible 1) Career path in itself or 2) A strong addition to your law degree in such a way that will help you practice in some niche..go for it. My decision for getting my Master's was the latter

[oopsu812]

I'm just jealous of people who know exactly what they want. I suffer from interestedinfuckingeverythingitis

Same. The moment I start thinking about law school, I start to think if I should pursue a graduate degree instead. But which graduate degree? Should I consider a graduate degree, and then pursue a law degree? Maybe I should just settle for a Masters in Public Policy. It's all too much.

I'm going to get a Masters in Public Policy or International Affairs or something in that vein and work a bit before committing to LS (or not). If I do though, hoping to go to LS around 25-26, settle down somewhere by 30ish, retire ASAP. This will likely never happen.

That's the way to do it imo.

I have known what I am interested in for a while now, but I did a master's degree and will be working; by the time I attend LS, I will have a better perspective on the world, learning, and now have truly validated what Im interested in. Also, I think as you are more mature with different experiences you can attack LS on a better footing and give yourself a competitive advantage.

Just before moving forward and spending money on a master's know how it can truly help you down the road. I wouldn't do it just because you are unsure and just on cold feet in regards to attending LS. If it generally interests you and you think it could be a possible 1) Career path in itself or 2) A strong addition to your law degree in such a way that will help you practice in some niche..go for it. My decision for getting my Master's was the latter

The master's would be to explore a career path that I'm interested in that certainly could connect to law in some way (PI), but could lead to a career in itself. Best of both worlds. Luckily the master's programmes I'm looking at are cheap enough to pay off with TA/RAships.

[chargers21]

"Don't pay for grad school" is something I've heard a lot

[oopsu812]

"Don't pay for grad school" is something I've heard a lot

I certainly wouldn't pay the 47k tuition at Johns Hopkins SAIS, for example. Incredible program, but fucking hell, they estimate $90k a year all together!

[elliedawn]

Yeah, the issue is that I'm already 25 and ready to begin a real career already (got a late start to undergrad).

I figure if I do a Masters in PP that ought to be a decent career path before committing to law school.

Nonetheless, I've gotta take the hellacious LSAT before I can even consider law school a viable option. Especially since I won't accept anything outside of top 20.

[twiix]

In case anyone needs entertainment for the next 54 minutes of the work day:

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This entire thread has me tilted. Source: Am engineer. Taking bait of trolls. See you all on the other side.

[chewinggum]

In case anyone needs entertainment for the next 54 minutes of the work day:

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This entire thread has me tilted. Source: Am engineer. Taking bait of trolls. See you all on the other side.

It's pathetic IMO. Esp the "my upbringing was tough so I have the right to be a jerk" idea.

Everyone has problems.

[oopsu812]

In case anyone needs entertainment for the next 54 minutes of the work day:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=150

This entire thread has me tilted. Source: Am engineer. Taking bait of trolls. See you all on the other side.

It's pathetic IMO. Esp the "my upbringing was tough so I have the right to be a jerk" idea.

Everyone has problems.

Yeah, not sure how one "earns the right to be an asshole".

[34iplaw]

I wish no one would apply to CN this cycle so they're forced to take me.

Unfortunately, we cannot offer you admission, as we decided it would be more financially prudent to shutter the halls of CLS and NYU than admit your ilk.

I'm teasing, obviously.

How's e'ryone doing?

[chewinggum]

Yeah, not sure how one "earns the right to be an asshole".

"im 22 year old from a broken home who grew up on the streets...
i tend to get defensive when privileged people try to talk down to me....they should just be glad im not slamming them on there heads" -uhwrestler

The whole thread was embarrassing because it started with him shitting on how south asians pride themselves, when he is south asian ..

[chewinggum]

I wish no one would apply to CN this cycle so they're forced to take me.

Unfortunately, we cannot offer you admission, as we decided it would be more financially prudent to shutter the halls of CLS and NYU than admit your ilk.

I'm teasing, obviously.

I guess I'll take S . If I must.

[34iplaw]

Yeah, not sure how one "earns the right to be an asshole".

"im 22 year old from a broken home who grew up on the streets...
i tend to get defensive when privileged people try to talk down to me....they should just be glad im not slamming them on there heads" -uhwrestler

The whole thread was embarrassing because it started with him shitting on how south asians pride themselves, when he is south asian ..

I grew up on the mean streets of an upper-class area in New Jersey. My friends would make fun of me because my mom would pick me up in her American made SUV rather than a superior German made child wagon. They also laughed at how my father owned a successful contracting business rather than more 'dignified' professional services work. I always loathed my father for his career choices. It was impossible, and I couldn't wait to attend college. Unfortunately, my hopes were misplaced. I enrolled at an Ivy League university, and the teasing became worse than before. Not only did the other kids make fun of my family but the wealthy Long Islanders laughed at me for being from New Jersey, and, in turn, the wealthier Connecticuters made fun of us both. Flash forward to graduation. I begin my job at Deutsche Bank. On the dating scene, I get my heart broken for a new source of ridicule that would become all too familiar - my job. For example, I was on a date with this amazing girl, and we were getting along great until we discussed our jobs. The moment that I was halfway through saying "Deutsche" she slapped my face, threw her glass of wine at me, and stormed off with her Goldman Sachs fleece yelling, "I only date people who work at top tier investment banks!" I knew I needed a change, as it was the fourth time I heard that during a date this month. I decided to enroll in a T14 law school in Washington, DC. While we were always ridiculed and insulted by T10 schools, it all got much worse in early 2017 when the USNRW new rankings were released. I no longer was attending a top school; we were out. My life continued its downward trajectory. I graduated top of my class and managed to swing a job at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meager & Flom LLP and moved back to the city that had previously spurned me, New York. I returned to the dating scene strong with the swagger of a V5 law firm at my back. I had a handful of dates with law school girls that either wouldn't date below the T3, T6, T10, or, perhaps the only one that bothered me, T13. I also felt a little annoyed when a girl stated that she wouldn't date outside of the reputable New York firms - Cravath or WLRK. What angered me the most was a new type of insidious discrimination, that against corporate attorneys. We were no longer considered interesting, compelling, or attractive dating partners. Instead of being insulted for my inferior credentials, I was now accosted for my life decisions that did not lead me to become a programmer. I continually despise myself and punish myself in my head for not learning to code or developing an app idea I had several years ago. Not only did it hurt my dating life, but someone got rich off my idea, SnapJunk. It's exactly like SnapChat but cuts through the BS and labels it for what it is, an app that encourages you to send photos of your junk to strangers. Remy Jones made billions off the idea. I wish my life was less complicated; I wish I grew up without water or electricity or enough food on the table. Woe is me. I am a cautionary tale of the upper non-elite class in America.

[chewinggum]

Woe is me.

Your PS must have been very telling.