The Official June 2015 Study Group Forum

[The Abyss]

What's the best way to go about drilling LR question types? I just bought one of the Cambridge volumes and each chapter has about 60 questions in them. I've printed out the first three chapters and I plan to spend a heavy amount of time doing them this weekend. Should I be timing myself while working through these questions? Should I take my time to each question correctly and work for high accuracy with no timer? Should I complete all 60 in a section before checking the answers?

Drilling should be done untimed. Take time to breakdown the stim. Identify and analyze the premises, conclusion, context info, etc. and then write out (or think out loud inside your head) why 4 ACs are wrong and why TCR is right. It's a pain at first, but you will learn to appreciate this thoroughness.

[ccordero]

What's the best way to go about drilling LR question types? I just bought one of the Cambridge volumes and each chapter has about 60 questions in them. I've printed out the first three chapters and I plan to spend a heavy amount of time doing them this weekend. Should I be timing myself while working through these questions? Should I take my time to each question correctly and work for high accuracy with no timer? Should I complete all 60 in a section before checking the answers?

Drilling should be done untimed. Take time to breakdown the stim. Identify and analyze the premises, conclusion, context info, etc. and then write out (or think out loud inside your head) why 4 ACs are wrong and why TCR is right. It's a pain at first, but you will learn to appreciate this thoroughness.

TCR?

[Rigo]

TCR?

The correct response.

[Shemp]

You mean the credited response, broseph.

[longhorn65]

study at 5am???? sure why the hell not!

[Rigo]

You mean the credited response, broseph.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[biggestlawman]

Yo, Twinkletoes! Time to study!

[RZ5646]

I think I'm postponing to October. My life has been and continues to be crazy, and I need to get my shit together... studying 4+ hours per day is not compatible with that. Also, taking this research position means I'll have massive amounts of free time to study all summer, so I can study the right way instead of sprinting for the next 7 weeks, burning through all my material, and hoping it works. Taking the LSAT during school is obviously suboptimal, as is taking it in the morning, but I think even with those disadvantages it's a superior choice for me.

So it's been real guys, but I'm out. I'm going to be adding TLS to my hosts file and disappearing at least until the fall. For those of you still taking in June, good luck; for the rest of you, I'll probably see you in the October group at some point.

[Rigo]

Goodluck RZnumbers.

[biggestlawman]

More I study the Trainer LG, more I get the sense that I am finally going to learn LG. And if I can learn LG, I can be above 170! I finally have a hope!

[Rigo]

More I study the Trainer LG, more I get the sense that I am finally going to learn LG. And if I can learn LG, I can be above 170! I finally have a hope!

The Trainer LG is working for you? That's a first.

[betterLawyerUP]

ill probably have to postpone as well this is overwhelming and I am not making substantial progress. Anybody want to take a look at PT20 S1 Q16? you'll be my bff for life

This is pissing me off because I always end up not accepting the lsat answer. Sometimes the wording strictly applies in a stim and sometimes it doesnt?? Here is what I understood in simple terms:


All stars are hot enough to destroy lithium completely by converting it to helium (except for coolest of brown dwarfs.)
If star has no lithium, it basically means all the lithium it started with was converted, thus the star cannot be a cool brown dwarf.

Now A states we must assume that the coolest brown dwarfs have never been hot enough to destroy lithium. Where in the hell do they get off in this assumption. What if a BD destroys some lithium (NOT destroying COMPLETELY), so it is the case they are hot enough to destroy some lithium, they just cannot destroy all. The absence of the word completely renders A wrong, and usually this keen eye helps me avoid wrong answers. However, once again, I skip this answer and thought I was avoiding a trap only to get the question wrong.

If anyone can answer this in simple terms because I am a simpleton on the verge of psychosis

[biggestlawman]

More I study the Trainer LG, more I get the sense that I am finally going to learn LG. And if I can learn LG, I can be above 170! I finally have a hope!

The Trainer LG is working for you? That's a first.

It indeed is. Early days, but I think it is. The process breakdown is very good. He actually builds you up to the process for the entire game by running you through non-game and partial-game drills. The trick is to hang on to every word, or at least read every word.

[biggestlawman]

ill probably have to postpone as well this is overwhelming and I am not making substantial progress. Anybody want to take a look at PT20 S1 Q16? you'll be my bff for life

This is pissing me off because I always end up not accepting the lsat answer. Sometimes the wording strictly applies in a stim and sometimes it doesnt?? Here is what I understood in simple terms:


All stars are hot enough to destroy lithium completely by converting it to helium (except for coolest of brown dwarfs.)
If star has no lithium, it basically means all the lithium it started with was converted, thus the star cannot be a cool brown dwarf.

Now A states we must assume that the coolest brown dwarfs have never been hot enough to destroy lithium. Where in the hell do they get off in this assumption. What if a BD destroys some lithium (NOT destroying COMPLETELY), so it is the case they are hot enough to destroy some lithium, they just cannot destroy all. The absence of the word completely renders A wrong, and usually this keen eye helps me avoid wrong answers. However, once again, I skip this answer and thought I was avoiding a trap only to get the question wrong.

If anyone can answer this in simple terms because I am a simpleton on the verge of psychosis

1. All stars have Li to begin with
2. Only Cool Dwarf cannot burn Li

C: If no Li, then NOT Cool Dwarf, i.e., Cool Dwarf --> No Li

Error: Takes for granted that Cool Dwarf never destroyed/got rid of Li fully.
(Destroyed means its gone, of course!)

Choice A covers for this error.

[RZ5646]

ill probably have to postpone as well this is overwhelming and I am not making substantial progress. Anybody want to take a look at PT20 S1 Q16? you'll be my bff for life

This is pissing me off because I always end up not accepting the lsat answer. Sometimes the wording strictly applies in a stim and sometimes it doesnt?? Here is what I understood in simple terms:


All stars are hot enough to destroy lithium completely by converting it to helium (except for coolest of brown dwarfs.)
If star has no lithium, it basically means all the lithium it started with was converted, thus the star cannot be a cool brown dwarf.

Now A states we must assume that the coolest brown dwarfs have never been hot enough to destroy lithium. Where in the hell do they get off in this assumption. What if a BD destroys some lithium (NOT destroying COMPLETELY), so it is the case they are hot enough to destroy some lithium, they just cannot destroy all. The absence of the word completely renders A wrong, and usually this keen eye helps me avoid wrong answers. However, once again, I skip this answer and thought I was avoiding a trap only to get the question wrong.

If anyone can answer this in simple terms because I am a simpleton on the verge of psychosis

This is definitely a process of elimination question. My first time through I had no idea either, but A is the only one that seems even remotely reasonable.

[Rigo]

RZ, what's the deal dude? You can't have a dramatic goodbye post and then not leave.

[biggestlawman]

ill probably have to postpone as well this is overwhelming and I am not making substantial progress. Anybody want to take a look at PT20 S1 Q16? you'll be my bff for life

This is pissing me off because I always end up not accepting the lsat answer. Sometimes the wording strictly applies in a stim and sometimes it doesnt?? Here is what I understood in simple terms:


All stars are hot enough to destroy lithium completely by converting it to helium (except for coolest of brown dwarfs.)
If star has no lithium, it basically means all the lithium it started with was converted, thus the star cannot be a cool brown dwarf.

Now A states we must assume that the coolest brown dwarfs have never been hot enough to destroy lithium. Where in the hell do they get off in this assumption. What if a BD destroys some lithium (NOT destroying COMPLETELY), so it is the case they are hot enough to destroy some lithium, they just cannot destroy all. The absence of the word completely renders A wrong, and usually this keen eye helps me avoid wrong answers. However, once again, I skip this answer and thought I was avoiding a trap only to get the question wrong.

If anyone can answer this in simple terms because I am a simpleton on the verge of psychosis

This is definitely a process of elimination question. My first time through I had no idea either, but A is the only one that seems even remotely reasonable.

Disagree. See my explanation above.

[Rigo]

I mean, stay if you want. Nobody is forcing you to leave.

[biggestlawman]

I mean, stay if you want. Nobody is forcing you to leave.

But if he does leave, he should take that pole with him. Please tell him not to leave it behind!

[RZ5646]

ill probably have to postpone as well this is overwhelming and I am not making substantial progress. Anybody want to take a look at PT20 S1 Q16? you'll be my bff for life

This is pissing me off because I always end up not accepting the lsat answer. Sometimes the wording strictly applies in a stim and sometimes it doesnt?? Here is what I understood in simple terms:


All stars are hot enough to destroy lithium completely by converting it to helium (except for coolest of brown dwarfs.)
If star has no lithium, it basically means all the lithium it started with was converted, thus the star cannot be a cool brown dwarf.

Now A states we must assume that the coolest brown dwarfs have never been hot enough to destroy lithium. Where in the hell do they get off in this assumption. What if a BD destroys some lithium (NOT destroying COMPLETELY), so it is the case they are hot enough to destroy some lithium, they just cannot destroy all. The absence of the word completely renders A wrong, and usually this keen eye helps me avoid wrong answers. However, once again, I skip this answer and thought I was avoiding a trap only to get the question wrong.

If anyone can answer this in simple terms because I am a simpleton on the verge of psychosis

This is definitely a process of elimination question. My first time through I had no idea either, but A is the only one that seems even remotely reasonable.

Disagree. See my explanation above.

Yeah if you write out the conditionals and remember to take the contrapositive (which I seldom do even though I probably should) the answer may be obvious, but I think you can still find TCR quickly just by eliminating the other answer choices. Either way works.

[RZ5646]

RZ, what's the deal dude? You can't have a dramatic goodbye post and then not leave.

Eh I will eventually. Right now I'm supposed to be writing a research paper so it's a very inopportune time to forsake TLS.

[msp8]

More I study the Trainer LG, more I get the sense that I am finally going to learn LG. And if I can learn LG, I can be above 170! I finally have a hope!

The Trainer LG is working for you? That's a first.

I'm a fan of Trainer LG as well.

[Rigo]

I mean, stay if you want. Nobody is forcing you to leave.

But if he does leave, he should take that pole with him. Please tell him not to leave it behind!

Did his pole not satisfy you BLM?

[biggestlawman]

RZ, what's the deal dude? You can't have a dramatic goodbye post and then not leave.

Eh I will eventually. Right now I'm supposed to be writing a research paper so it's a very inopportune time to forsake TLS.

Stick around. Just do not become a laughing stock by publishing asinine criticism of people who know equally as much, and possibly more than you, and are equally smart, and possibly smarter than you.

Eleventh Commandment: Laughing stock shall be milked for laughs.

[McJimJam]

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