The Official February 2015 Study Group Forum

[NL2424]

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[Smallville]

*bigwalloftext*

Congrats! You sound like a completely different person compared to the last PT you took.

Yes yes, maybe I did just end up needing a nice night of drinking to destress. Oh well, taking another 6 sec PT tomorrow and I won't be complacent. Treating each question like it's life or death no matter what. And I know I sound completely different, I just get discouraged easily. Happy 25 days out everyone!

GL, you got this, 180

[NL2424]

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[nlee10]

Yes yes, maybe I did just end up needing a nice night of drinking to destress. Oh well, taking another 6 sec PT tomorrow and I won't be complacent. Treating each question like it's life or death no matter what. And I know I sound completely different, I just get discouraged easily. Happy 25 days out everyone!

Good. The mental aspect of the LSAT is often a component a lot of people neglect. Just stay calm and you'll do well. GL tomorrow.

[penncon]

I always find 17-21 to be the most time consuming, by far. The questions at the end are usually LONGER, but I think that's to trick you into thinking its difficult when, if you simply read it all carefully, its relatively simple. But 12 is a good pace marker to start with, I think. Usually (even in today's PT's) there are probably 2-3 in the first 12 that may make you slow down, but there are also 5-6 where you read the stimulus and immediately know the answer without even reading the AC's. The better you get, the more efficient you get. But for now, I think that's a fine pace for the guy.

Don't get me wrong; I think 12 in 12 is a fine timing goal to have. I'm just really wary of setting specific timing goals, since they might cause a test taker to freak out unnecessarily, or skip steps on challenging questions just because they happen to fall in the first half of the section.

I also agree that questions in the 16-22 range tend to be the most difficult and time consuming. But more and more, LSAC is throwing in a few tricky ones in the beginning, and making up for it with gimmes towards the end. It's just something to look out for.

GreenTee, I was actually thinking about doing untimed drills nonstop until I more thoroughly internalize LR processes in order to increase my time. I'm pretty confident about my knowledge base and I'm pretty confident I could answer most questions correctly untimed. I was thinking if I just keep knocking questions down, my speed will eventually pick up in the process. Did you drill by question types or did you just complete as many LR sections as possible?

[GreenTee]

GreenTee, I was actually thinking about doing untimed drills nonstop until I more thoroughly internalize LR processes in order to increase my time. I'm pretty confident about my knowledge base and I'm pretty confident I could answer most questions correctly untimed. I was thinking if I just keep knocking questions down, my speed will eventually pick up in the process. Did you drill by question types or did you just complete as many LR sections as possible?

IMO, untimed drilling by type is THE essential LR prep. If you're not making that the bulk of your prep, you're doing it wrong.

For the entirety of my prep period between Sept and Dec, I was doing untimed drilling by type (maybe 100 questions a day on average), and only did timing practice during full PTs. I think the pattern recognition I gleaned from all of that untimed drilling made me crazy efficient on the real test. FWIW, I went -2 total for LR on test day, which was about average for me on PTs. I think the untimed drilling by type made all the difference.

e: By "untimed," to be clear, I just mean that you aren't using a watch. Your main goal should still be to move through the questions as quickly and efficiently as you possibly can.

[penncon]

GreenTee, I was actually thinking about doing untimed drills nonstop until I more thoroughly internalize LR processes in order to increase my time. I'm pretty confident about my knowledge base and I'm pretty confident I could answer most questions correctly untimed. I was thinking if I just keep knocking questions down, my speed will eventually pick up in the process. Did you drill by question types or did you just complete as many LR sections as possible?

IMO, untimed drilling by type is THE essential LR prep. If you're not making that the bulk of your prep, you're doing it wrong.

For the entirety of my prep period between Sept and Dec, I was doing untimed drilling by type (maybe 100 questions a day on average), and only did timing practice during full PTs. I think the pattern recognition I gleaned from all of that untimed drilling made me crazy efficient on the real test. FWIW, I went -2 total for LR on test day, which was about average for me on PTs. I think the untimed drilling by type made all the difference.

e: By "untimed," to be clear, I just mean that you aren't using a watch. Your main goal should still be to move through the questions as quickly and efficiently as you possibly can.

Thanks for the great advice GT, hopefully I'll kill it just like you did!

[Dr. Nefario]

Gonna LG practice today on flights. Just gotta refresh. Haven't dedicated to LG in a while. Thinking about doing some stuff from newer tests.

How was Boston? People are better looking in Dallas, yes?

Also, where can I buy the newer tests? I kind of want to take the previous 3 to Kinkos or something to have it be an actual booklet, not sure if there's something special I need to do to make that happen.

Boston was awesome! I'm kinda hoping I can go here if the cards play out right.

Just buy them on blueprint and print them off or ya you could take them to kinkos.

[nlee10]

On break from PT 53.
I'm so bad with my scheduling....decided to PT when I woke up. lol.

[Smallville]

On break from PT 53.
I'm so bad with my scheduling....decided to PT when I woke up. lol.

West coast weirdos

[longhorn65]

Hey all, I will be retaking in February. I took the December test and scored a miserable 157. I only got 12 games questions correct :0. I can't seem to bring games down to a reasonable # of missed questions despite it being "the easiest section to improve" as so many people tell me. Can anyone offer me some suggestions for fixing this issue. I feel like a 157 with only 12 game points isn't really all that bad of a score but that's just smoke and mirrors if I cant obtain a decent score all together. PLEASE HELP!

[PoopNpants]

Shoutout to whoever on here told me to blind review a few weeks ago, I'll tell ya what man that shit is the Bee's Knees.

In other news though I know that the Feb LSAT is "non-disclosed", but what does that really mean? we won't get the scoring report similar to the other LSATs, or we won't even know how we did on each individual section?

[Smallville]

Shoutout to whoever on here told me to blind review a few weeks ago, I'll tell ya what man that shit is the Bee's Knees.

In other news though I know that the Feb LSAT is "non-disclosed", but what does that really mean? we won't get the scoring report similar to the other LSATs, or we won't even know how we did on each individual section?

it means when scores are released you learn your score and thats about it

[brusselsprouts]

Oof I feel SO tired right now. PT 63, 165. Not a surprise at all, down one point from last week, but I really had a horrible week so I wasn't expecting improvement. I was bracing myself for a much bigger drop.
LG: -2 (stupid mistakes not fully comprehending an easy game)
RC: -4 (a bit high for me but pretty standard given the pressure of the test)
LR: -13

I know I can improve my LR, but is it realistic to do so in 25 days? I know if I was able to improve before Feb, that would be my best chance for success given how far away June is and other commitments. But banking on that improvement and deciding by this weekend is terrifying.

My plan this week is BR tomorrow and drill some LR, drill LR Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I'll do Blueprint's last lesson and homework that's with it, Saturday PT and decide about postponing.

[nlee10]

On break from PT 53.
I'm so bad with my scheduling....decided to PT when I woke up. lol.

West coast weirdos

I'm doneeeeee. whooo

[Smallville]

Oof I feel SO tired right now. PT 63, 165. Not a surprise at all, down one point from last week, but I really had a horrible week so I wasn't expecting improvement. I was bracing myself for a much bigger drop.
LG: -2 (stupid mistakes not fully comprehending an easy game)
RC: -4 (a bit high for me but pretty standard given the pressure of the test)
LR: -13

I know I can improve my LR, but is it realistic to do so in 25 days? I know if I was able to improve before Feb, that would be my best chance for success given how far away June is and other commitments. But banking on that improvement and deciding by this weekend is terrifying.

My plan this week is BR tomorrow and drill some LR, drill LR Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I'll do Blueprint's last lesson and homework that's with it, Saturday PT and decide about postponing.

thats not so bad, especially if its around what youve been doing + after a rough week! keep it up and ull kill it!

On break from PT 53.
I'm so bad with my scheduling....decided to PT when I woke up. lol.

West coast weirdos

I'm doneeeeee. whooo

howd it feel

[nlee10]

howd it feel

Halfway through LR1, I realized this was a retake -_-
But tbh, the LG and RC seemed entirely new to me so I must've taken this way back in like August lol.
Even with some of the LR, I didn't have any insta-memory of the answer choices so that's good. Haven't graded it yet but RC was last and that absolutely wrekted me, lol.

[PoopNpants]

I've been through the 3 powerscore bibles and got a good grasp of LR and LG, but RC is still my achilles heel, I vary between -8 to -6 typically on PTs, which overall have been around 164-165ish since christmas. My boy told me good things about "The LSAT trainer" I was wondering if anyone could tell me whether it would be worth it or not to order it? I'm sitting for Feb but would def be open to re-taking in June if my scores ain't high enough

[mizu]

GreenTee, I was actually thinking about doing untimed drills nonstop until I more thoroughly internalize LR processes in order to increase my time. I'm pretty confident about my knowledge base and I'm pretty confident I could answer most questions correctly untimed. I was thinking if I just keep knocking questions down, my speed will eventually pick up in the process. Did you drill by question types or did you just complete as many LR sections as possible?

IMO, untimed drilling by type is THE essential LR prep. If you're not making that the bulk of your prep, you're doing it wrong.

For the entirety of my prep period between Sept and Dec, I was doing untimed drilling by type (maybe 100 questions a day on average), and only did timing practice during full PTs. I think the pattern recognition I gleaned from all of that untimed drilling made me crazy efficient on the real test. FWIW, I went -2 total for LR on test day, which was about average for me on PTs. I think the untimed drilling by type made all the difference.

e: By "untimed," to be clear, I just mean that you aren't using a watch. Your main goal should still be to move through the questions as quickly and efficiently as you possibly can.

Hi GT, thank you so much for your insights. Did you also do untimed drills for RC? Do you have any advice for drilling RC? Thanks again.

[peppermint]

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[NL2424]

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[Smallville]

Got a 169 on yesterday's PT, which makes it two 169s in a row At least my scores are consistent, lol. I just wish they were consistently 170+ instead.

ETA- Whoa, so Smallvile changed his name to Smallville? I agree with Jacks, you'll always be Smallville to us

Changed it for a reason kiddo
keep it up girl ull get there soon

[Big Red]

In that awkward stage between BRing and knowing what I got on the PT. Don't really care where the score is as long as I'm not dropping too many points in LR.

This PT had the most awkward game about stages, set times, band categories, bands. It almost didn't make up for the 3 jokes of games that came before it.

[JackelJ]

Oof I feel SO tired right now. PT 63, 165. Not a surprise at all, down one point from last week, but I really had a horrible week so I wasn't expecting improvement. I was bracing myself for a much bigger drop.
LG: -2 (stupid mistakes not fully comprehending an easy game)
RC: -4 (a bit high for me but pretty standard given the pressure of the test)
LR: -13

I know I can improve my LR, but is it realistic to do so in 25 days? I know if I was able to improve before Feb, that would be my best chance for success given how far away June is and other commitments. But banking on that improvement and deciding by this weekend is terrifying.

My plan this week is BR tomorrow and drill some LR, drill LR Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I'll do Blueprint's last lesson and homework that's with it, Saturday PT and decide about postponing.

If you don't mind losing some money you can cancel the test after this weekend and wait until closer to the test date to see if you improve more to where you are happy. Losing the money now kinda sucks, but in the long run it doesn't matter. I would also relax and try to not worry about it too much. Even if you take it in Feb you can always retake in June or Oct after a break.

[JackelJ]

Got a 169 on yesterday's PT, which makes it two 169s in a row At least my scores are consistent, lol. I just wish they were consistently 170+ instead.

ETA- Whoa, so Jgoody changed his name to Smallville? I agree with Jacks, you'll always be Jgoody to us

You got it pep!!